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Topic: Couple of questions (22 msgs / 1446 lines)
1) From: Jason D. Montgomery
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Any takers on these questions? (i posted them friday night at midnight =
and perhaps they got lost in the 60+ posts after it, if no one answers =
this time, i'll drop it). :)
 
1. What is the harm/benefit to preheating the roaster before dropping =
the beans in? I have read that the roasters should be allowed to cool =
completely before roasting another batch.  Should a roaster be at room =
temp before the next batch, or is there harm/benefit to starting out a =
littler warmer (or a lot warmer)?
 
2. Since my wife Beth and I started roasting our own coffee this past =
month, I decided to break out the French press - hadn't used it in a =
couple years. Turns out we can't stomach like the coffee brewed in our =
French Press, our Starbucks coffee pot just isn't doing it for us. We =
noticed the Technivorm Brewer on SweetMarias - is this they way to go =
for convenience - if so which model? or are they all basically the same. =
Other suggestions? The Chemex looked interesting as well, but I'm =
looking for something to use when we don't want to be as hands-on.
 
later,
jason

2) From: Vicki Smith
I love the KMB, and it is the ultimate in non-hands-on, but they are 
really tough to find these days. Grind, load into grounds container and 
water into the water holder, turn the machine on, come back in 5 or 6 
(I'm guessing here, never timed it) minutes, and pour into thermos, 
airpot etc.
I've read a fair amount on the list abut some amount of attention that 
one needs to pay when using the Technivorm with our good fresh roasted 
beans. I believe it is a bloom/stirring issue, but one of the  folks 
using it would be a better source of info than I could ever be.
vicki
Jason D. Montgomery wrote:
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3) From: Jason D. Montgomery
Interesting. I've not heard of the KMB - but it sounds interesting. I'll =
have to look into that. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
BTW, you mentioned the KMB is difficult to find - it looks like =
amazon.com has some in stock for anyone whose interested:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000Y61KE=
 
 
Seriously, people should be able to give coffee machines a trial run for =
a couple weeks. My wife and I have been through too many coffee =
machines. We tried smaller industrial coffee makers and still have been =
disappointed. We were seriously disappointed with the Bodum Santos (that =
was our attempt to move away from our many terrible drip machines to the =
'better' vacuum brewers), now we've landed on the Starbucks Barista and =
it makes a cup hotter then most makers we've had in the past (but still =
not hot enough), regardless - it was getting the job done until I put =
some Java Estate home roasted coffee in the Barista against the French =
press - now we're ready to throw the *$ Barista in the trash.
 
later,
jason
From: homeroast-admin on behalf of Vicki Smith
Sent: Sun 7/9/2006 12:36 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Couple of questions
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4) From: Vicki Smith
They must have located a stash--the pot has been discontinued in North 
America, and was not available there recently. I notice that it now 
costs a whole lot more than I paid for the two I have. Yup, I bought a 
back-up when I heard it was being discontinued.
I know there are some people on the list who really want them and were 
having a hard time locating them. IMO, they are worth the price.
v
Jason D. Montgomery wrote:
<Snip>

5) From: miKe mcKoffee
Depends on the roasting appliance whether they could/should be pre-heated or
whether it is "safe" to do back to back batches without cooling. For
repeatable of roasts it is most effective to start each batch from the same
starting point. I've been doing back to back roasts with my Rostos for over
5 years with the only cooling inbetween batches the cooling cycle. It is not
completely cooled to room temp by any stretch of the imagination. I run a
brief no bean heating run so the first batch will be about the same starting
temp as subsequent batches. Depending on the roaster and control you have of
the roaster's profile, pre-heating could have the adverse effect of too
quick a drying stage leading up to tanning, often resulting in grassy
undeveloped taste and less even roasting. If you have specific questions
about your roasting please include how your are roasting.
The Technivorn is one of the very few drip brewers that brews at ~200f. The
vast majority drip brewers brew too cool yielding a flat lifeless sometimes
even sour brew. Just curious, what can't you stomach about Press Pot
brewing? Have you reviewed Press Pot brewing how to on SM website? What
grinder are you using?
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Jason D.
Montgomery
	Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:19 PM
	
	Any takers on these questions? (i posted them friday night at
midnight and perhaps they got lost in the 60+ posts after it, if no one
answers this time, i'll drop it). :)
		 
	1. What is the harm/benefit to preheating the roaster before
dropping the beans in? I have read that the roasters should be allowed to
cool completely before roasting another batch.  Should a roaster be at room
temp before the next batch, or is there harm/benefit to starting out a
littler warmer (or a lot warmer)?
	 
	2. Since my wife Beth and I started roasting our own coffee this
past month, I decided to break out the French press - hadn't used it in a
couple years. Turns out we can't stomach like the coffee brewed in our
French Press, our Starbucks coffee pot just isn't doing it for us. We
noticed the Technivorm Brewer on SweetMarias - is this they way to go for
convenience - if so which model? or are they all basically the same. Other
suggestions? The Chemex looked interesting as well, but I'm looking for
something to use when we don't want to be as hands-on.
		 
	later,
	jason

6) From: Brett Mason
Regarding the french press, I love mine.  One thing though is I grind VERY
coarse for FP.  I use a couple old Zassenhaus and Trosser grinders for FP.
This removes any bitterness and results in a wonderfully sweet cup.  Mybe
this can help you too>
On 7/8/06, Jason D. Montgomery  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
Regards,
Brett Mason
HomeRoast
   Zassman

7) From: Jason D. Montgomery
Whoa - my second question got totally jacked up. What I meant to say =
was:
 
"Turns out we can't stomach like the coffee brewed in our *$ Barista =
Drip Pot" - WE LOVE THE FRENCH PRESS.
 
Must have been too late.
 
later,
jason
From: homeroast-admin on behalf of miKe mcKoffee
Sent: Sun 7/9/2006 3:49 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: RE: +Couple of questions
Depends on the roasting appliance whether they could/should be =
pre-heated or
whether it is "safe" to do back to back batches without cooling. For
repeatable of roasts it is most effective to start each batch from the =
same
starting point. I've been doing back to back roasts with my Rostos for =
over
5 years with the only cooling inbetween batches the cooling cycle. It is =
not
completely cooled to room temp by any stretch of the imagination. I run =
a
brief no bean heating run so the first batch will be about the same =
starting
temp as subsequent batches. Depending on the roaster and control you =
have of
the roaster's profile, pre-heating could have the adverse effect of too
quick a drying stage leading up to tanning, often resulting in grassy
undeveloped taste and less even roasting. If you have specific questions
about your roasting please include how your are roasting.
The Technivorn is one of the very few drip brewers that brews at ~200f. =
The
vast majority drip brewers brew too cool yielding a flat lifeless =
sometimes
even sour brew. Just curious, what can't you stomach about Press Pot
brewing? Have you reviewed Press Pot brewing how to on SM website? What
grinder are you using?
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I =
must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal =
enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone =
before.
        From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Jason D.
Montgomery
        Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:19 PM
       
       
        Any takers on these questions? (i posted them friday night at
midnight and perhaps they got lost in the 60+ posts after it, if no one
answers this time, i'll drop it). :)
                
        1. What is the harm/benefit to preheating the roaster before
dropping the beans in? I have read that the roasters should be allowed =
to
cool completely before roasting another batch.  Should a roaster be at =
room
temp before the next batch, or is there harm/benefit to starting out a
littler warmer (or a lot warmer)?
        
        2. Since my wife Beth and I started roasting our own coffee this
past month, I decided to break out the French press - hadn't used it in =
a
couple years. Turns out we can't stomach like the coffee brewed in our
French Press, our Starbucks coffee pot just isn't doing it for us. We
noticed the Technivorm Brewer on SweetMarias - is this they way to go =
for
convenience - if so which model? or are they all basically the same. =
Other
suggestions? The Chemex looked interesting as well, but I'm looking for
something to use when we don't want to be as hands-on.
                
        later,
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8) From: Jason D. Montgomery
After the beating I'll take today, i'm going to regret mistyping my =
second question. :(
 
hah - oh well.
 
later,
jason
From: homeroast-admin on behalf of Ken Mary
Sent: Sun 7/9/2006 9:24 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Couple of questions
<Snip>
the
<Snip>
Your question has two answers. Some equipment requires a cooldown so as =
to
work properly the next roast, and not damage the electonics.
Preheating the roaster may be part of the profile to suit the particular
coffee being roasted. I personally do cold starts in my equipment =
because it
is easier, more energy saving, and I see no taste advantage to =
preheating.
<Snip>
couple
<Snip>
You need more experience with the press. Every step of the process has =
an
optimum value which you need to determine. Read and try instructions =
from
others, then change to suit your taste. I used a press for years, got =
tired
of the messy cleanup, and now make cowboy coffee almost exclusively.
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9) From: Ken Mary
<Snip>
Your question has two answers. Some equipment requires a cooldown so as to
work properly the next roast, and not damage the electonics.
Preheating the roaster may be part of the profile to suit the particular
coffee being roasted. I personally do cold starts in my equipment because it
is easier, more energy saving, and I see no taste advantage to preheating.
<Snip>
You need more experience with the press. Every step of the process has an
optimum value which you need to determine. Read and try instructions from
others, then change to suit your taste. I used a press for years, got tired
of the messy cleanup, and now make cowboy coffee almost exclusively.
--

10) From: Jason D. Montgomery
Cowboy coffee? Does that mean you just boil some water and pour it over =
the grounds? (used google) - what's with the egg shell? 
 
I tried this at work the other day with some fresh roasted I brought =
into work ground that morning - turns out by the time I could drink it =
(when the grounds had finally settled) it was too cold (but I drank it =
anyway). Would have preferred it warmer. Perhaps I didn't grind it fine =
enough?
 
later,
jason
From: homeroast-admin on behalf of Ken Mary
Sent: Sun 7/9/2006 9:24 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Couple of questions
<Snip>
the
<Snip>
Your question has two answers. Some equipment requires a cooldown so as =
to
work properly the next roast, and not damage the electonics.
Preheating the roaster may be part of the profile to suit the particular
coffee being roasted. I personally do cold starts in my equipment =
because it
is easier, more energy saving, and I see no taste advantage to =
preheating.
<Snip>
couple
<Snip>
You need more experience with the press. Every step of the process has =
an
optimum value which you need to determine. Read and try instructions =
from
others, then change to suit your taste. I used a press for years, got =
tired
of the messy cleanup, and now make cowboy coffee almost exclusively.
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11) From: raymanowen
Get rid of your typrwronger, Jason -ro
On 7/9/06, Jason D. Montgomery  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita WurliTzer- 1976

12) From: Ken Mary
<Snip>
No boiling and no egg shell, both disgusting to my senses.
Here is my procedure for a 12 ounce mug of coffee using a pyrex measuring
cup:
Put ground coffee in 1 1/3 cups cold or room temp water and stir to wet the
grounds. Put in microwave for 1 minute or so then stir. Put back in
microwave and heat until you notice large bubbles forming in the foam layer,
stop and stir well. Return to the microwave and heat until the foam BEGINS
to rise and immediately stop it and stir. Be careful on this last heat or
the coffee will boil and overflow. Allow to steep with occasional stirring
for one minute, then settle for 30 seconds. Pour into your cup.
All of the grounds should have settled. The steep and settle time allows
enough heat to sink into the pyrex glass for proper settling. A poor grinder
will make some larger chunky grounds which will not settle, so use a better
grinder.
Important, do not gulp down the last portion of the cup, there will be mud.
--

13) From: Jason D. Montgomery
Nice - I'll have to try that.
From: homeroast-admin on behalf of Ken Mary
Sent: Sun 7/9/2006 10:40 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Couple of questions
<Snip>
over the
<Snip>
No boiling and no egg shell, both disgusting to my senses.
Here is my procedure for a 12 ounce mug of coffee using a pyrex =
measuring
cup:
Put ground coffee in 1 1/3 cups cold or room temp water and stir to wet =
the
grounds. Put in microwave for 1 minute or so then stir. Put back in
microwave and heat until you notice large bubbles forming in the foam =
layer,
stop and stir well. Return to the microwave and heat until the foam =
BEGINS
to rise and immediately stop it and stir. Be careful on this last heat =
or
the coffee will boil and overflow. Allow to steep with occasional =
stirring
for one minute, then settle for 30 seconds. Pour into your cup.
All of the grounds should have settled. The steep and settle time allows
enough heat to sink into the pyrex glass for proper settling. A poor =
grinder
will make some larger chunky grounds which will not settle, so use a =
better
grinder.
Important, do not gulp down the last portion of the cup, there will be =
mud.
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14) From: Jason D. Montgomery
Forgot to ask - how fine of a grind do you use?
 
later,
jason
From: homeroast-admin on behalf of Ken Mary
Sent: Sun 7/9/2006 10:40 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Couple of questions
<Snip>
over the
<Snip>
No boiling and no egg shell, both disgusting to my senses.
Here is my procedure for a 12 ounce mug of coffee using a pyrex =
measuring
cup:
Put ground coffee in 1 1/3 cups cold or room temp water and stir to wet =
the
grounds. Put in microwave for 1 minute or so then stir. Put back in
microwave and heat until you notice large bubbles forming in the foam =
layer,
stop and stir well. Return to the microwave and heat until the foam =
BEGINS
to rise and immediately stop it and stir. Be careful on this last heat =
or
the coffee will boil and overflow. Allow to steep with occasional =
stirring
for one minute, then settle for 30 seconds. Pour into your cup.
All of the grounds should have settled. The steep and settle time allows
enough heat to sink into the pyrex glass for proper settling. A poor =
grinder
will make some larger chunky grounds which will not settle, so use a =
better
grinder.
Important, do not gulp down the last portion of the cup, there will be =
mud.
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15) From: Sandy Andina
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I generally have much better results grinding for French press in a  
manual portable grinder, either Zass Turkish on its coarsest setting  
or Traveller II. I have experimented traveling with a blade grinder,  
and even my SMP at home--and neither grinds coarsely yet evenly.
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I generally have much better =
results grinding for French press in a manual portable grinder, either =
Zass Turkish on its coarsest setting or Traveller II. I have =
experimented traveling with a blade grinder, and even my SMP at =
home--and neither grinds coarsely yet evenly.
On Jul 9, =
2006, at 7:30 AM, Brett Mason wrote:
Regarding = the french press, I love mine.† One thing though is I grind VERY = coarse for FP.† I use a couple old Zassenhaus and Trosser grinders for = FP.† This removes any bitterness and results in a wonderfully sweet = cup.† Mybe this can help you too> On 7/8/06, Jason D. = Montgomery <jason> wrote: = Any= takers on these questions? (i posted them friday night at midnight and = perhaps they got lost in the 60+ posts after it, if no one answers this = time, i'll drop it). :) † 1. What is the harm/benefit to preheating the = roaster before dropping the beans in? I have†read that the roasters = should be allowed to cool completely before roasting another batch.† = Should a roaster be at room temp before the next batch,†or is there = harm/benefit to starting out a littler warmer (or a lot = warmer)? † 2. Since my wife Beth and I started roasting our own coffee = this past month, I decided to break out the French press - hadn't used = it in a couple years. Turns out we can't stomach like the coffee brewed = in our French Press, our Starbucks coffee pot just isn't doing it for = us. We noticed the Technivorm Brewer on SweetMarias - is this they way = to go for convenience - if so which model? or are they all basically the = same. Other suggestions? The Chemex looked interesting as well, but I'm = looking for something to use when we don't want to be as = hands-on. † later, jason =
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16) From: Sandy Andina
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On Jul 9, 2006, at 9:40 AM, Ken Mary wrote:
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Sandy
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On Jul 9, 2006, at =
9:40 AM, Ken Mary wrote:

Important, do not gulp down = the last portion of the cup, there will be mud.

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17) From: raymanowen
Old Wives' Tale:
"...roasters should be allowed to cool completely before roasting another
batch."
New Wives' Tale:
Due to the machinations of some of some pot-bellied elected types- saving us
from ourselves- we tax paying Orangutans need the servicing of a Thermal
Fuse when dealing with anything more complicated than a Banana Tree.
The short answer is:
If an electric appliance makes heat and/ or is motor-operated and can be
left in operation while unattended, you will be served with F(TH) somewhere
in the circuit.
Just run a couple of cooldown cycles after the end of a roast and you'll be
all set to roast another batch without incident. Dead microwaves are usually
due to an open fuse, BTW.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Espresso is a Best Use of Water-

18) From: Ken Mary
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Start with your largest "espresso" grind then if you get too much mud go
larger. If too many floaters then grind smaller.
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19) From: Eddie Dove
With respect to your question about the Technivorms
... I purchased the Moccamaster CD about a month ago. 
Although I do stir the brew in the filter basket most
of the time, it is not necessary.  This is an
excellent set and forget coffeemaker.  
Another aspect I like about this coffee maker is the
ability and ease with which just about everything
comes apart so that it can be cleaned.  I hope this
helps.
Eddie
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20) From: Sandy Andina
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I sometimes micromanage my Technivorm by letting the basket fill,  
with the valve on "closed," then stirring and opening the valve  
halfway (which flows like a normal drip coffeemaker).  But you're  
right--it makes excellent coffee even on "set & forget." Only wish I  
could brew through the carafe's lid, which (along with larger  
capacity) is the only thing my Starbucks Barista has over it. (Just  
found out that there's a new larger capacity TV--bet if I elevated  
the machine and topped up the water during brewing, the larger carafe  
might work. (Heck, maybe I could even brew into my Starbucks carafe-- 
with a brew-thru lid--that way).
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I sometimes micromanage my =
Technivorm by letting the basket fill, with the valve on "closed," then =
stirring and opening the valve halfway (which flows like a normal drip =
coffeemaker).† But you're right--it makes excellent coffee even on =
"set & forget." Only wish I could brew through the carafe's lid, =
which (along with larger capacity) is the only thing my Starbucks =
Barista has over it. (Just found out that there's a new larger capacity =
TV--bet if I elevated the machine and topped up the water during =
brewing, the larger carafe might work. (Heck, maybe I could even brew =
into my Starbucks carafe--with a brew-thru lid--that =
way).†
On Jul 9, 2006, at 4:16 PM, Eddie Dove =
wrote:
With respect to your question = about the Technivorms... I purchased the = Moccamaster CD about a month ago.†Although = I do stir the brew in the filter basket mostof the time, it is not necessary.† This is anexcellent set and forget coffeemaker. † Another = aspect I like about this coffee maker is theability and ease with which just about = everythingcomes apart so that it can be = cleaned.† I hope = thishelps. Do You Yahoo!?Tired of = spam?† Yahoo! Mail has = the best spam protection around†http://mail.yahoo.com†homeroastmailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = = --Apple-Mail-57-226968631--

21) From: B. Scott Harroff
On (1)  I donít necessarily see a harm (other than spend a bit extra =
on
electricity) and do see a benefit (speed).  I preheat FrankenTop to 410, =
add
the beans, and start the program.  It runs like the below curve or some
variant, finishing at 410 (beans finish at whatever temperature at which =
I
let them finish).  When the beans are done, I eject them into the =
cooling
pan, close the relay that dumps the beans, and immediately add the next
load.   One batch is now cooling and the other is starting on the roast
cycle Ė continuous roasting with no break.  
 
Don't confuse the ambient air temp (410) with the bean temp (below).
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[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Jason D.
Montgomery
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 12:19 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: +Couple of questions
Any takers on these questions? (I posted them Friday night at midnight =
and
perhaps they got lost in the 60+ posts after it, if no one answers this
time, I'll drop it). :)
†
1. What is the harm/benefit to preheating the roaster before dropping =
the
beans in? I have†read that the roasters should be allowed to cool =
completely
before roasting another batch.† Should a roaster be at room temp =
before the
next batch,†or is there harm/benefit to starting out a littler warmer =
(or a
lot warmer)?
†
2. Since my wife Beth and I started roasting our own coffee this past =
month,
I decided to break out the French press - hadn't used it in a couple =
years.
Turns out we can't stomach like the coffee brewed in our French Press, =
our
Starbucks coffee pot just isn't doing it for us. We noticed the =
Technivorm
Brewer on SweetMarias - is this they way to go for convenience - if so =
which
model? or are they all basically the same. Other suggestions? The Chemex
looked interesting as well, but I'm looking for something to use when we
don't want to be as hands-on.
†
later,
jason

22) From: Wesley Simon
Most mornings I like the "set & forget" type brew system.  In fact, I have
been finding myself putting the coffee on and going back for an extra 20
minutes of sleep.
I have a 10 year old Braun cone filter 12 cup drip that works pretty darn
good and my girlfriend has a Bunn 10 cup.  I've threatened to buy a
technovorm, but I can't justify it at the moment; Could have something to do
with that Silvia I recently picked up for $350.  Thanks Peter!
Wes
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