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Topic: micro tostacaffe roaster (20 msgs / 688 lines)
1) From: George Miller
Hi once again. 
I will be force retired from my company next year (they are being sold to a 
foreign company) and I'm looking for a way to roast at least a pound of 
coffee at once.  Living in Central New York, RK drum roasting outside during 
our winters is not an option. 
I was wondering if anyone has any info on the Micro Tostacafee roasters.  
Their URL ishttp://www.cafecoffees.com/microtostacafferoaster.html
They have several sizes, but the micro one will do from 1 to 4 lbs at a 
time.  It can also be equipped with a computer module but I think it is more 
for monitoring than actually profiling the roast. 
Any comments or info on this unit will be greatly appreciated. 
Back to lurking 
madhemi aka George Miller

2) From: Vicki Smith
I've looked at those as well. I've also looked at their 2 pound roaster. 
In Alberta, I can't roast outdoors between October (if I'm lucky) and May.
I remember some threads on coffee geek about it, but have never tried 
one myself.
Both seem to be variations on a George Foreman type rotisserie unit with 
a roasting basket and a halogen lamp to increase the roasting temperature.
You will need to figure out some way to get rid of the smoke, just as 
you would have to provide ventilation for an SC/TO (or any other 
roaster, well except for a Z&D). With that as a constant, my question 
would be if the roaster will out perform that much less expensive 
option. I understand that a pound is pushing it with the SC/TO and that 
the roaster you are looking at can go waaay up to 4 pounds.
Vicki
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3) From: miKe mcKoffee
I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole. To start with might be ok for 1 =
maybe
2 pounds but "Roast 1 pound of green beans to dark roast in 10 minutes, =
2
pounds in 20 minutes, and 3 pounds in 30 minutes, and 4 pounds with =
slightly
longer roast times." Oh boy roaster rated for up to 4 pounds, and it =
takes
over a half hour to roast said 4 pounds. Cooling, what about decent =
cooling.
Additional $99 for SS colander and modified 5gal bucket plus you provide =
a
shopvac.
IMO this is not a professional quality roast system by any stretch of =
the
imagination. A so so home roast system at best.
Two Gene Café roasters would give pound capability at about the same =
price
with better roast control. Or two HotTop a bit more. Or 1 pound capacity
with one about $25 14 gauge carbon steel wok, a stirrer of choice and a =
heat
source:-) Ok, still need to cool the wok roast too!
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I =
must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal =
enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone =
before.
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4) From: raymanowen
Madhemi, huh? I had a 392 in a late July 1957 300 C (Used). Mopar zone rep
wouldn't talk straight, but said this one had Bendix Fuel injection and
mechanical lifters/ cam for 390hp from the factory. I was neither blind nor
deaf- It Didn't. Power was Hellacious, though.
I've thought about the *Micro TostaCaffé- *just until I got to the $800
price tag!
We remodeled the kitchen many years ago and tossed the built-in electric
oven! It had worked perfectly well for a lot of bread baking. Woulda-
coulda, shoulda, but didn't snag it before the contractor hauled it off.
Next time...
Or- a trip to the Sears warehouse outlet store??? RV or boat galley
equipment? Ain't no second person as dumb as I is/was.
The 500 watt quartz halogen lamp could be replaced with two 1,000 watt lamp=
s
in series for 500 watts of IR heat and far longer life.
$800 is ridiculous. You can buy a heat gun and dog bowl for <<$200 of Zen
roasting.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
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5) From: Michael Wascher
Two 1000W lamps in series would provide 250W. Power is proprtional to the
square of voltage/current assuming linear devices, so apply half the voltag=
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& get a quarter the power.
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6) From: M. McCandless
In heating elements, resistance is a wild card,
it increases w/heat.
P=IE or P=Isquared/R.
More relative power should be consumed at lower E, but heat
output may not follow.
Could require some research/experimentation.
McSparky
At 07:20 AM 7/13/2006 -0400, you wrote:
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 square of voltage/current assuming linear devices, so apply half the=
 voltage & get a quarter the power.
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 < raymanowen> wrote:
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 wouldn't talk straight, but said this one had Bendix Fuel injection and=
 mechanical lifters/ cam for 390hp from the factory. I was neither blind nor=
 deaf- It Didn't. Power was Hellacious, though. 
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 price tag! 
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 oven! It had worked perfectly well for a lot of bread baking. Woulda-=
 coulda, shoulda, but didn't snag it before the contractor hauled it off.=
 Next time... 
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 equipment? Ain't no second person as dumb as I is/was.
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 lamps in series for 500 watts of IR heat and far longer life. 
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The total power is 500W if you assume the resistance does not change.  =
Each lamp drops to 250W, but you have two of them.
I am not an expert on halogen bulbs, but lowering the voltage by 50%  
may be counter-productive if it is not done with some care.
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The total power is 500W if =
you assume the resistance does not change. Each lamp drops to 250W, but =
you have two of them.
I am not an expert on = halogen bulbs, but lowering the voltage by 50% may be counter-productive = if it is not done with some care. On Jul 13, 2006, at = 6:20 AM, Michael Wascher wrote:
Two 1000W = lamps in series would provide 250W. Power is proprtional to the square = of voltage/current assuming linear devices, so apply half the voltage = & get a quarter the power. On = 7/13/06, raymanowen < raymanowen> = wrote:Madhemi, huh? I had a 392 in a late July 1957 300 C (Used). = Mopar zone rep wouldn't talk straight, but said this one had Bendix Fuel = injection and mechanical lifters/ cam for 390hp from the factory. I was = neither blind nor deaf- It Didn't. Power was Hellacious, though. = I've thought about the Micro = TostaCaffé- just until I got to the $800 price tag! We = remodeled the kitchen many years ago and tossed the built-in electric = oven! It had worked perfectly well for a lot of bread baking. Woulda- = coulda, shoulda, but didn't snag it before the contractor hauled it off. = Next time... Or- a trip to the Sears warehouse outlet store??? = RV or boat galley equipment? Ain't no second person as dumb as I = is/was. The 500 watt quartz halogen lamp could be replaced with = two 1,000 watt lamps in series for 500 watts of IR heat and far longer = life. $800 is ridiculous. You can buy a heat gun and dog bowl = for <<$200 of Zen roasting. Cheers -RayO, aka = Opa! = On 7/12/06, George Miller <george> = wrote: Hi once again. I will be force retired from my company = next year (they are being sold to a foreign company) and I'm looking = for a way to roast at least a pound of coffee at once.  Living in = Central New York, RK drum roasting outside during our winters is not = an option. I was wondering if anyone has any info on the Micro = Tostacafee roasters. Their URL is =http://www.cafecoffees.com/microtostacafferoaster.html They = have several sizes, but the micro one will do from 1 to 4 lbs at = a time.  It can also be equipped with a computer module but I = think it is more for monitoring than actually profiling the = roast. Any comments or info on this unit will be greatly = appreciated. Back to lurking madhemi aka George = Miller homeroast= mailing list =http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change = your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go = to =http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings=
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8) From: Michael Wascher
No.
Each lamp drops half the voltage ... 2 lamps in series are twice the
resistance so you have half the current. So half the voltage times half the
current results in a quarter of the power.
And yes, running the lamps at lower than rated voltage may result in
improper operation, i.e. non-linearity.
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9) From: George Miller
Ya, Madhemi...like in a Dodge Ram Hemi Truck.  It's a 347 cu in Hemi with 
345 hp standard.  Them Madhemi is my license plate 'number'.  I have put in 
a Mac cold air induction with throttle spacer, new hp spark-plug wires, 16 
new iridium spark-plugs (yes it has 2 spark-plugs per cylinder), 3 1/2 inch 
catback dual exhaust, 20% under-drive pulley, plasma ignition, hypertech 
tuner and royal purple engine oil. It has a 3.55 or so rear end, a 5 speed 
tranny, lock up torque converter and a posi rear end. It's black with about 
$800 worth of special order decals on it, a dragon skeleton with the head 
and breast area looking like it broke through the hood in one area and two 
other areas that look like the wings broke through.  The back end has a 
SuperBee type stripe in silver that goes all the way across the hard tonnu 
cover and down the sides with the same break through look with ram heads.   
I have yet to install the water/alcohol injection system with the $50 a 
gallon nitro buster that I bought last year.  So, yes it's a MadHemi or more 
like a Hemi on steroids.  With the stock tires I couldn't get much more than 
a chirp out of the tires, but now, oh ya, with two size larger tires (and a 
tranny correction module for speed and mileage) it now not only chirps, but 
breaks loose so bad that it looks like charbucks just burnt another two bags 
of beans.  You can't see the back of the truck at all. 
Thanks to all for the info on the micro tostacaffee roaster.  I have been 
looking at them for over 6 months and can't make up my mind.  I would have 
preferred a longer roast time and have the roast by wire option not only 
record roasting temps of air and beans, but have it control the process 
more.  It seems that it only records those temps and I think operates the 
"puffer" on it's exhaust.  Right now I'm using a Zach's and a Bravi.  Both 
are on a variac from SM and I'm using SM's thermocouple to monitor temps.  I 
have one person who buys coffee from me that prefers coffee from the Bravi, 
especially when it's double roasted to FC+ to FC++ or +++ on the Sumatras 
and Zimbabwees. I haven't tried it on the Monsooned Malabar or Ethiopian 
Harar Horse yet.  I started double roasting some types when I first got the 
Bravi and didn't quite get the beans dark enough on those types.  He tried 
them and got hooked, so now any of those are double roasted for the most 
part.  I'm glad he only buys a half pound of two types a week. 
I'm not that interested in dog bowl roasting or modding things.  Which is 
strange in a way as I'm very mechanically inclined as having had 4 years of 
toolmakers training, was a machinist for about 4 years. Now am an 
assembler/inspector at a transfer case plant after first doing about 5 years 
of being a  machine operator on different machines there and about 6 years 
as an assembler.  I have rebuilt car engines, trannys (both manual and 
automatic), replaced clutches and etc in the past. 
The reason why I'm looking to be able to do a few pounds at a time is that 
I"m retiring next year and I want a side line thing to do and coffee is my 
passion.  I was a coffee freak for years buying from Barnies and a local 
roaster, then got into roasting my own this past February.  I am starting to 
get quite a few people who wants coffee beans, but they don't agree on just 
a couple of types.  That one friend basically doesn't like island, central 
American or south American coffees.  He wants the Africans and Indonesians.  
Others only want the opposite, and a few like me want to try everything and 
mix it up. Also there is a major farmers market that covers the whole CNY 
area that I can get a space at and sell coffee if I want.  I can't see using 
less than 1 pound machines to get the quantity and variety of beans I will 
need.  Then again, I am retiring, will be getting a severance pay, and could 
get say a half dozen hot tops, a few bravi's and a dog bowl. 
MadHemi...roasting beans on my exhaust system.  ????????????  idea???? 
To: homeroast
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Madhemi, huh? I had a 392 in a late July 1957 300 C (Used). Mopar zone rep
wouldn't talk straight, but said this one had Bendix Fuel injection and
mechanical lifters/ cam for 390hp from the factory. I was neither blind nor
deaf- It Didn't. Power was Hellacious, though. 
I've thought about the *Micro TostaCaffé- *just until I got to the $800
price tag! 
We remodeled the kitchen many years ago and tossed the built-in electric
oven! It had worked perfectly well for a lot of bread baking. Woulda-
coulda, shoulda, but didn't snag it before the contractor hauled it off.
Next time... 
Or- a trip to the Sears warehouse outlet store??? RV or boat galley
equipment? Ain't no second person as dumb as I is/was. 
The 500 watt quartz halogen lamp could be replaced with two 1,000 watt lamp=
s
in series for 500 watts of IR heat and far longer life. 
$800 is ridiculous. You can buy a heat gun and dog bowl for <<$200 of Zen
roasting. 
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!

10) From: David B. Westebbe
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What do you get for gas milage?  How much does a tank of gas cost?

11) From: Vicki Smith
LOL, George, my husband just bought the 425 hp hemi Dodge Charger. He 
has also discovered the Charger BBS and after market worlds. The upside 
to this is I am not feeling pretty much entitled to all the coffee toys 
I want.
If you have some money to invest in roasting, mebbe you could have a 
heated coffee shed built for you and continue to do the BBQ bit.
vicki
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12) From: James House
For less than $100 you can roast a pound at a time with a Stir Crazy and a
Turbo Oven, with excellent control and visibility.
-james
On 7/12/06, George Miller  wrote:
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13) From: Frank Parth
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Ya know, I'll bet someone could rig up a wok that sits on top of the exhaust manifold. With the engine running it wouldgenerate more than enough heat to roast beans.
Just a passing thought.
Frank Parth

14) From: Michael Wascher
Hey, I've seen those plates!
I'm in central NJ. Live in East Windsor (near turnpike exit 8) & work near
Red Bank (right by GSP exit 109). Was that you or does somebody else have
the same plates from a different state?
--MikeW
On 7/13/06, George Miller  wrote:
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15) From: Michael Wascher
There used to be a site on cooking like that. Lots of recipes for stuff well
wrapped in aluminum foil & cooked on the exhaust manifold.
Preheat for 15 miles at 55 mph. Sear at 75 mph & cook for 50 miles at 60
mph. Turn & cook another 30 miles. Serve.
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16) From: Vicki Smith
The Surreal Gourmet (which may only have appeared on Canadian TV) had a 
commercial in which the host cooked a fish on his car, stopping 
periodically to check it, as he drove down the road.
Michael Wascher wrote:
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17) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
we've discussed this before - check out the archives. if its agreed 
the machine is iffy, why are we giving them free advertising my 
posting the URL here. Please read the List Rules about URLs. Everyone 
knows this machine, its been on Ebay forever. anyway, IMHO, stick 
with your RK ! Invest in good venting!
tom
On 7/12/06, George Miller 
<george> wrote:
Hi once again.
I will be force retired from my company next year (they are being sold to a
foreign company) and I'm looking for a way to roast at least a pound of
coffee at once.  Living in Central New York, RK drum roasting outside during
our winters is not an option.
I was wondering if anyone has any info on the Micro Tostacafee roasters.
Their URL is 
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                   "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters"
            Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting  -  Tom & Maria
                      http://www.sweetmarias.com                Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com
     Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA
             phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com

18) From: David Schooley
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On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:26 AM, Michael Wascher wrote:
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Per lamp. Each lamp consumes 250W for a total power of 500W.
The voltage across the series combination is the same as it was  
before while the voltage across each lamp gets cut in half. Assuming  
a 120V supply and unity power factor, the current into a single 1000W  =
lamp would be 8.33A. With two lamps in series, the resistance doubles  =
and the current is divided in half to 4.17A. The power supply now  
provides 500W (120V * 4.17A) to the circuit.
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On Jul 13, 2006, =
at 9:26 AM, Michael Wascher wrote:
No. = Each lamp drops half the voltage ... 2 lamps in series are twice = the resistance so you have half the current. So half the voltage times = half the current results in a quarter of the = power.
Per lamp. Each lamp = consumes 250W for a total power of 500W.
The voltage across the = series combination is the same as it was before while the voltage across = each lamp gets cut in half. Assuming a 120V supply and unity power = factor, the current into a single 1000W lamp would be 8.33A. With two = lamps in series, the resistance doubles and the current is divided in = half to 4.17A. The power supply now provides 500W (120V * 4.17A) to the = circuit. And yes, running the = lamps at lower than rated voltage may result in improper operation, i.e. = non-linearity. On 7/13/06, David Schooley < dcschooley> = wrote:The total power is 500W if you assume = the resistance does not change. Each lamp drops to 250W, but you have = two of them. I am not an expert on halogen = bulbs, but lowering the voltage by 50% may be counter-productive if it = is not done with some care. On Jul 13, 2006, at 6:20 AM, = Michael Wascher wrote: Two 1000W = lamps in series would provide 250W. Power is proprtional to the square = of voltage/current assuming linear devices, so apply half the voltage = & get a quarter the power. On = 7/13/06, raymanowen = < raymanowen> = wrote: Madhemi, huh? I had a 392 in a late July 1957 300 C (Used). = Mopar zone rep wouldn't talk straight, but said this one had Bendix Fuel = injection and mechanical lifters/ cam for 390hp from the factory. I was = neither blind nor deaf- It Didn't. Power was Hellacious, though. = I've thought about the Micro = TostaCaffé- just until I got to the $800 price tag! We = remodeled the kitchen many years ago and tossed the built-in electric = oven! It had worked perfectly well for a lot of bread baking. Woulda- = coulda, shoulda, but didn't snag it before the contractor hauled it off. = Next time... Or- a trip to the Sears warehouse outlet store??? = RV or boat galley equipment? Ain't no second person as dumb as I = is/was. The 500 watt quartz halogen lamp could be replaced with = two 1,000 watt lamps in series for 500 watts of IR heat and far longer = life. $800 is ridiculous. You can buy a heat gun and dog bowl = for <<$200 of Zen roasting. Cheers -RayO, aka = Opa! On 7/12/06, George = Miller < george> = wrote: Hi once again. I will be force retired from my company = next year (they are being sold to a foreign company) and I'm looking = for a way to roast at least a pound of coffee at once.  Living in = Central New York, RK drum roasting outside during our winters is not = an option. I was wondering if anyone has any info on the Micro = Tostacafee roasters. Their URL is =http://www.cafecoffees.com/microtostacafferoaster.html They = have several sizes, but the micro one will do from 1 to 4 lbs at = a time.  It can also be equipped with a computer module but I = think it is more for monitoring than actually profiling the = roast. Any comments or info on this unit will be greatly = appreciated. Back to lurking madhemi aka George = Miller = homeroast mailing list =http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change = your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go = to =http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings=
-- "When the theme hits = the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty Wichita = WurliTzer- 1976
-- "There is nothing new under the sun but there = are lots of old things we don't know." --  Ambrose = Bierce =
-- "There is = nothing new under the sun but there are lots of old things we don't = know." --  Ambrose Bierce = --Apple-Mail-6-582123208--

19) From: George Miller
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Must have been someone else.  I haven't been in that area in probably 10 
years or more.  Mine is a 2004 black hemi ram with NYS plates.  I'm usually 
only seen in the Syracuse (CNY) areas and a bit up north of here.

20) From: Michael Wascher
Probably somebody in NJ or PA has those plates then.
On 7/14/06, George Miller  wrote:
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