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Topic: OT 2006 Charger was >Miss Silvia in my future... (12 msgs / 330 lines)
1) From: Vicki Smith
The Charger is available with two different hemi engines, a 4.7 (I 
think, might be a 4.8) and the 6.1. Ron felt that the smaller hemi 
resulted in a car that didn't feel much different than the big engine 
2006 Nissan Altima or various other cars of that class. He also liked 
the Mazda Speed Six, but it didn't have the interior feel he was after.
6.1 litres is 6100 cubic centimetres.
Even correcting for the exchange rates, the car is about 10% more in 
Canada than it costs in the US, so this was a major, major purchase for 
us. He thinks I am joking about this being his next to last motorized 
vehicle purchase, with the one to come being a scooter so he can 
navigate through the crowds at the nursing home. I'm not.
I have not yet driven the car. I'm betting I won't get to for several 
years. That's OK, I doubt he will ever drive Miss Sylvia either.
vicki
Brian Kamnetz wrote:
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2) From: steve olock
I think that you can bargain for more... Having recently purchased a 
Dodge Ram PU with the Hemi, I am in love with the big red beast. Had I 
needed to trade off a coffee appliance to be able to get the Hemi, I 
would easily have been able to be pushed to an Anita or Andreja without 
much effort. Nows the time for you to capitalize on the need to make 
things "even", and I see no need to limit ones self when there are 
others that ,for a relatively little amount more than the sylvia if you 
dont want to.
Best of luck with the Sylvia.
Vicki Smith wrote:
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3) From: Vicki Smith
The car was bought in lieu of my kitchen remodel, which had been 
scheduled for this fall. Now, when we can do the kitchen, you can be 
sure there will be an adjustment in the plans so that we can plumb in an 
  espresso maker and adequately vent a bigger roaster.
The Miss Sylvia will do more than adequately for now, well along with 
the Rocky (veg).
vicki
steve olock wrote:
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4) From: Brett Mason
Vicki,
As a former Silvia owner, and now the owner of a bigger badder better
appliance, here's a couple tips...
1. Silvia is far more solid, far more effective than anything near her price
range....
2. Silvia is not enough.
  Silvia doesn't tell you the pressure;
  Silvia doesn't tell you the temp,
  Silvia's little boiler goes up-and-down, up-and-down,
  Silvia's water runneth-out,
  Silvia's steam is pretty good...
Check out the Andreja or Bricoletta or almost anything in the 900-1400 range
just to make sure you really don't want the control, consistency and data,
before you put down the money for Silvia.
I never hated Silvia, and I did love her.
But she was, well, just Silvia, and now that I have met others, I realize
what I was missing...
Regards,
Brett
  ...a Unic Diva owner...  with 2 more Diva's on their way right now...
On 7/14/06, Vicki Smith  wrote:
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Regards,
Brett Mason
HomeRoast
   Zassman

5) From: Vicki Smith
This will be my first espresso maker, and I am not really sure yet how 
espresso will fit into our lives. We tend to like our 40 ounces of KMB 
in the AM (that would be Imperial measures, just for you), and I am not 
all that sure that at 4:30 in the morning, I would be up for pulling 
multiple shots (not that I would pull forty ounces, but you know what I 
mean).
Besides with the car payments, and the down payment, and an extra 
thousand to have the 3M shtuff applied to the car, I'm not sure our 
budget can stretch that far right now.
I'll keep this all in mind though.
vicki (who started out with the SM lowish end Gaggia for on her mind a 
week ago)
Brett Mason wrote:
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6) From: Michael Guterman
Vicki,
I had a Silvia.  She was a great companion.  Surfing the temperature is 
no problem, and with a single boiler I don't think you really need a 
pressure gauge.  If you can't deal with surfing, a PID is easy and 
cheap.  Best of all, Silvia makes great coffee.  I am still not 
convinced trading up was a great thing to do.  Great car.  My first car 
(long, long ago) was a 426 Hemi.  Just think, now you can always be 
early.  Are radar detectors legal in Canada?   Mine saves me a lot of money.
Enjoy your new machines.
Michael
Brett Mason wrote:
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7) From: steve olock
OK, so you have actually done an upgrade already! Even though you didnt 
actually buy the gaggia, you made an upgrade and thats going to remove 
atleast one layer of buyers remorse... At least you can say "at least I 
didnt get the gaggia!"
Vicki Smith wrote:
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8) From: miKe mcKoffee
I agree with what Brett said and had been thinking of posting something
similar. But remembering the goal of keeping total under $1k including
grinder at same time reduces espresso machine possibilities greatly. Might
be able to get a Bezzera BZ02S (plastic body with Livia 90 guts) and Rocky
and keep it under $1k if you called and asked but that's about it HX wise
and still under $1k grinder & espresso machine back across the border wise.
Silvia is indeed a quality built single boiler machine. A machine some keep
for many many years yet many others outgrow in sometimes months sometimes
years. She has definite limitatons. Not just in ease of use but also what
she can produce in the cup regardless your skills on the handle side of the
PF. Analogous to an experience I had playing the clarinet. Starting playing
in grade school with a decent couple hundred buck starter clarinet. I had
some skill, playing 1st chair lead clarinet Freshmen year High School on.
Ended up using the same clarinet even while playing in a Community College
Concert Band and Orchestra. We were working on pieces for a concert, one
included a couple clarinet solos with a technique I just couldn't get right.
(Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue) One day during rehearsals the conductor (also
a woodwind specialist) took my clarinet and attempted the opening impossible
for me passage. He couldn't play it without the sliding glissando breaking
either! Turns out wasn't my skill potential lacking but that starter
clarinet was technically incapable of playing the required advanced
technique. I used one of his "lower end" professional quality clarinets sold
at his music store ($1000 jobby back then) the rest of the year with
remarkable difference, no further problem mastering the glissando. (Well,
not mastering but getting half way decent and passable enough I performed
them at the concerts.) Shots I can achieve today with the rotary E61
Bricoletta were just not possible with Silvia.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Brett Mason
	Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:13 PM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: Re: +OT 2006 Charger was >Miss Silvia in my future...
	
	Vicki,
	 
	As a former Silvia owner, and now the owner of a bigger badder
better appliance, here's a couple tips...  
	 
	1. Silvia is far more solid, far more effective than anything near
her price range....
	 
	2. Silvia is not enough.
	  Silvia doesn't tell you the pressure;  
	  Silvia doesn't tell you the temp, 
	  Silvia's little boiler goes up-and-down, up-and-down, 
	  Silvia's water runneth-out, 
	  Silvia's steam is pretty good...  
	Check out the Andreja or Bricoletta or almost anything in the
900-1400 range just to make sure you really don't want the control,
consistency and data, before you put down the money for Silvia.
	 
	I never hated Silvia, and I did love her.
	But she was, well, just Silvia, and now that I have met others, I
realize what I was missing...
	 
	Regards,
	Brett
	  ...a Unic Diva owner...  with 2 more Diva's on their way right
now...
	
	On 7/14/06, Vicki Smith  wrote: 
		The car was bought in lieu of my kitchen remodel, which had
been
		scheduled for this fall. Now, when we can do the kitchen,
you can be 
		sure there will be an adjustment in the plans so that we can
plumb in an
		espresso maker and adequately vent a bigger roaster.
		
		The Miss Sylvia will do more than adequately for now, well
along with
		the Rocky (veg). 
		
		vicki
		
		steve olock wrote:
		> I think that you can bargain for more...

9) From: Vicki Smith
We have two kitchens. One is upstairs, where I cook meals. We have a 
downstairs kitchen, that originally was part of a MIL suite, adjacent to 
our home office and den. I work at home doing techie things and 90% of 
our coffee drinking happens downstairs.
Long term, our lifestyle being what it is, I would have the ultimate 
espresso maker downstairs, where we are likely to use it the most, and 
the Sylvia upstairs. No waste there ;).
vicki
steve olock wrote:
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10) From: Brett Mason
OK I am convinced - two machines, one being a Silvia = no regrets...
I did contact my Silvia's new owner, and he's treating her real nice.  Just
got her a PID, and also a 3-hole spray tip - she's happier than ever...
WooHoo,
Brett
On 7/14/06, Vicki Smith  wrote:
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Regards,
Brett Mason
HomeRoast
   Zassman

11) From: raymanowen
Mike, that Gershwin Rhapsody in Blue's opening sliding glissando on a black
Le Blanc clarinet went up for two octaves or more, IIRC. I never figured out
if Gershwin really wrote it that way, or how my brother, Bill, did it.
Our toy Fox Terrier went nuts when Bill played it solo but growled at me
when we'd play a duet, with me on the Trombone. I could play very loudly in
the dog's face and the mutt would snap at the slide.
Egad, man! You bring back memories of Camelot as a youth. I made the coffee
in a glass Vaculator for the folks who were the only coffee drinkers in the
family. Too weak and too hot for this kid. Chewing on a bean was my speed.
Who Knew about homeroasting green coffee in the 40's and 50's?
Dad hated the "ersatz" instant coffee of the day- developed for C-rats, I
guess. I sure never drank any with San Miguel or Sing Hai
On 7/14/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the
Wichita WurliTzer

12) From: David Liguori
raymanowen wrote:
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Actually, Gershwin wrote it for two pianos.  The orchestration is by Ferde Grofe.


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