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Topic: OT: does unfiltered coffee raise cholesterol?? (14 msgs / 382 lines)
1) From: Thbull
Taking this OT...a co-worker, who lately has been getting on my
nerves, continues to state that some program on TV stated once that
unfiltered coffee raises cholesterol.
I did a search on the SM site and located one page that contained once
sentance about conflicting studies and cholesterol.
My co-worker's remarks are allways at the expense of my home-roasting
and good coffee in general --- "stop drinking coffee" is usually what
he says.
Any information on this subject is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Thbull 'brewing in my own juices'

2) From: Don Cummings
I heard from a reliable source that he talked to a health expert who had a
coffee guru for a client who had a close colleague who did experiments with
a scientist on the effects of coffee and they found that unfiltered coffee
actually *reduces* cholesterol.
And I give you permission to quote this to your coworker.
On 7/17/06, Thbull  wrote:
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Don

3) From: Woody DeCasere
Actally studies do show that it does, very slight from what i understand.
On 7/17/06, Thbull  wrote:
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"Good night, and Good Coffee"

4) From: Spencer Thomas
Say, "it's my lifestyle choice, I would appreciate it if you would stop
bugging me about it?"  Or, alternatively, "F*** off!"  Depending on whether
you want a continued relationship with this person.
On 7/17/06, Thbull  wrote:
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5) From: Thbull
Has some time to Google bit and found this on the MELITTA web site...
But what most people don't know is that the paper coffee filter also
filters out harmful coffee oils, which can raise cholesterol levels.
Studies in the Netherlands have proven that, when coffee is filtered
through a paper filter, these oils remain trapped in the filter.
Percolated or unfiltered coffee does not eliminate these byproducts
which then end up in the coffee cup. So it is important that coffee
lovers who have cholesterol problems always drink filtered coffee.
Hhhmmmm...maybe I'll switch away from my Melitta filters if they trap
the 'harmful' oils ;)
Back to google...
-Thbull 'FPing daily at home!!'

6) From: Eddie Dove
Is it possible that this individual is the type of
person that just cannot stand seeing someone else
enjoy themselves?  
If this person is sincerely interested in the health
effects of coffee, there is a web site that can be
referenced ... Positively Coffee ... although I cannot
vouch for the veracity of the information.
Eddie
"Little things effect little minds." - unknown
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7) From: The Scarlet Wombat
A search of research, meaning half decent research, will reveal that worry 
over cholesterol is unnecessary.  There are two myths perpetrated to the 
American and other publics.
1.  Dietary cholesterol intake increases blood serum cholesterol levels
2. Elevated serum cholesterol levels have negative health impacts
It turns out that both are mostly lies.  A google on these subjects will 
reveal just how conflicted the medical community really is over the 
cholesterol issue.
Dan

8) From: Thbull
Thank you all for letting me vent...your're my pressure relief value.
I appreciate all the feedback.
--Thbull 'glad for the list'
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9) From: Lynne
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ThBull -
Did a search on Google - this was, apparently, a small Dutch study that 
indicated a link between unfiltered coffee and slightly raised 
cholesterol. This study seems to have taken place back in 1989(!)
I use EBSCO Host for research (class papers & some private med. research 
I'm doing for a client). Came up with a few studies showing the benefits 
of coffee, that you might want to cite. You can tell this very annoying 
coworker that he can put this in his cup and drink it:
Here's a study where they combined a healthy diet w/coffee drinking:http://tinyurl.com/pq9x9("...Finally, regular */coffee/* ingestion may favorably affect 
cardiovascular risk status by modestly reducing LDL oxidation 
susceptibility and decreasing LDL-*/cholesterol/* and MDA levels.")
Coffee may reduce the risk of liver cancer:http://tinyurl.com/n2d8nStudy shows no link between coffee drinking and high blood pressure for ">http://tinyurl.com/px4ogTufts U. study sees NO Coffee-Heart Connection:http://tinyurl.com/n2d8nStudy shows no link between coffee drinking and high blood pressure for 
women - but does show link w/cola drinking:http://tinyurl.com/mhgomHigh caffeine intake does NOT raise CHD risk:">http://tinyurl.com/p727sandhttp://tinyurl.com/mhgomHigh caffeine intake does NOT raise CHD risk:
"This article focuses on a research */study/* conducted in the United 
States, which revealed that drinking */coffee/* does not increase 
Coronary Heart Disease risk, even at very high consumption rates. Data 
from a 20-year follow-up of 44,005 men and 84,488 women found no 
evidence that */coffee/* consumption increased the risk of CHD once age, 
weight and smoking status were taken into account. In fact, the 
researchers found that *drinking more than six cups of */coffee/* a day 
was associated with a slight reduction in CHD risk.*"
This study states that "researchers have long observed that increased 
caffeine consumption is associated with a reduced risk of type 2 diabetes.":http://tinyurl.com/jt2snAnother plan of attack would be to note some bad habit this person has 
(everyone does) and find some studies regarding his habits, to harass 
him instead (food is probably more of a factor).
Of course, the other alternative is to simply tell him to mind his own 
business - but of course, you have to work with this guy.
Lynne
(who obviously has way too much time on her hands)
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10) From: Brett Mason
Here's the deal...
Coffee may be bad for you:
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6242467/Coffee may be good for you:
 http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier039183Some People need a life:
 http://www.sj-r.com/sections/news/stories/90972.aspJust glad to help...
Brett
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Regards,
Brett Mason
HomeRoast
   Zassman

11) From: Sandy Andina
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I would smile sweetly and tell your co-worker that delivering an  
excess of unsolicited and gratuitious criticism has been  
scientifically proven to be a primary contributor to an individual's  
risk of susceptibility to physical harm, and then offer to  
demonstrate this theory for her. She'll back off.
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Sandy
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I would smile sweetly and tell =
your co-worker that delivering an excess of unsolicited and gratuitious =
criticism has been scientifically proven to be a primary contributor to =
an individual's risk of susceptibility to physical harm, and then offer =
to demonstrate this theory for her. She'll back off.
On Jul =
17, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Thbull wrote:
Taking this OT...a co-worker, who lately has been = getting on mynerves, continues to state that = some program on TV stated once thatunfiltered = coffee raises cholesterol. I did a search on the SM site = and located one page that contained oncesentance = about conflicting studies and cholesterol. My = co-worker's remarks are allways at the expense of my = home-roastingand good coffee in general --- = "stop drinking coffee" is usually whathe = says. Any information on this subject is = appreciated. Thanks in advance.Thbull = 'brewing in my own juices'homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = = --Apple-Mail-10-911919876--

12) From: rwh
There is an good  article in the March issue of "Critical Review of Food
Science and Nutrition" by Jane Higdon, pg 101-123 that reviews the
current state of knowledge coffee and health, appropriately titled
"Coffee and Health". It covers cancer, heart disease, stroke,
Parkinsons, ... I don't know how widely available the journal is but
someone mentioned EBSCO and I'm pretty sure that they have the full
article on-line.
The issue with cholesterol isn't the cholesterol/fat in the coffee oil,
but rather the effects of cafestol and kahweol in unfiltered coffee
increasing LDLs, VLDLs and homocystine levels - all considered to be
potential risk factors for cardiac heart disease. There also seems to be
some reduction in HDLs, i.e. good cholesterol. The mechanism hasn't been
documented but the results seem to be consistent; that unfiltered coffee
increases the factors measurably while filter coffee shows an
insignificant increase. Take away the unfiltered coffee and the LDL
levels fall.
The bottom line is that if you're concerned, talk to your doctor, or use
a brewing method that uses a filter. They do note that espresso has
higher levels of the two factors, but the small serving size
significantly reduces the total effect.
Personally I consider the interaction between cell phones and SUVs to be
a much more significant risk factor to me than anything I'm going to get
out of a coffee cup, but your mileage may vary.
--rick
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13) From: raymanowen
I hope you never have offered any of your excellent nectar of the beans to
the Black Hole of the Universe. Some such folks would actually hold you in
contempt if you offered them a gold brick- "It's too heavy, couldn't you
just write a check?"
The BHU actually knows less than I do about the causes and effects of
cholesterol on the human body. That's tough, becase I know Nothing about it
and that's only half of the story.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Some people need lives- back under their rock-

14) From: Steven Van Dyke
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Or just tell your co-worker that you know drinking coffee could kill you =
quicker "but considering the people I have to work with..." and take =
another big swig.
Enjoy!
Steve :->


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