Taking this OT...a co-worker, who lately has been getting on my nerves, continues to state that some program on TV stated once that unfiltered coffee raises cholesterol. I did a search on the SM site and located one page that contained once sentance about conflicting studies and cholesterol. My co-worker's remarks are allways at the expense of my home-roasting and good coffee in general --- "stop drinking coffee" is usually what he says. Any information on this subject is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Thbull 'brewing in my own juices'
I heard from a reliable source that he talked to a health expert who had a coffee guru for a client who had a close colleague who did experiments with a scientist on the effects of coffee and they found that unfiltered coffee actually *reduces* cholesterol. And I give you permission to quote this to your coworker. On 7/17/06, Thbull wrote: <Snip> -- Don
Actally studies do show that it does, very slight from what i understand. On 7/17/06, Thbull wrote: <Snip> -- "Good night, and Good Coffee"
Say, "it's my lifestyle choice, I would appreciate it if you would stop bugging me about it?" Or, alternatively, "F*** off!" Depending on whether you want a continued relationship with this person. On 7/17/06, Thbull wrote: <Snip> -- =Spencer in Ann Arbor My Unitarian Jihad http://tinyurl.com/6valr)Name is: Sibling Dagger of Mild Reason What are you?http://homepage.mac.com/whump/ujname.html
Has some time to Google bit and found this on the MELITTA web site... But what most people don't know is that the paper coffee filter also filters out harmful coffee oils, which can raise cholesterol levels. Studies in the Netherlands have proven that, when coffee is filtered through a paper filter, these oils remain trapped in the filter. Percolated or unfiltered coffee does not eliminate these byproducts which then end up in the coffee cup. So it is important that coffee lovers who have cholesterol problems always drink filtered coffee. Hhhmmmm...maybe I'll switch away from my Melitta filters if they trap the 'harmful' oils ;) Back to google... -Thbull 'FPing daily at home!!'
Is it possible that this individual is the type of person that just cannot stand seeing someone else enjoy themselves? If this person is sincerely interested in the health effects of coffee, there is a web site that can be referenced ... Positively Coffee ... although I cannot vouch for the veracity of the information. Eddie "Little things effect little minds." - unknown Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
A search of research, meaning half decent research, will reveal that worry over cholesterol is unnecessary. There are two myths perpetrated to the American and other publics. 1. Dietary cholesterol intake increases blood serum cholesterol levels 2. Elevated serum cholesterol levels have negative health impacts It turns out that both are mostly lies. A google on these subjects will reveal just how conflicted the medical community really is over the cholesterol issue. Dan
Thank you all for letting me vent...your're my pressure relief value. I appreciate all the feedback. --Thbull 'glad for the list' On 7/17/06, The Scarlet Wombat wrote: <Snip>
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ThBull - Did a search on Google - this was, apparently, a small Dutch study that indicated a link between unfiltered coffee and slightly raised cholesterol. This study seems to have taken place back in 1989(!) I use EBSCO Host for research (class papers & some private med. research I'm doing for a client). Came up with a few studies showing the benefits of coffee, that you might want to cite. You can tell this very annoying coworker that he can put this in his cup and drink it: Here's a study where they combined a healthy diet w/coffee drinking:http://tinyurl.com/pq9x9("...Finally, regular */coffee/* ingestion may favorably affect cardiovascular risk status by modestly reducing LDL oxidation susceptibility and decreasing LDL-*/cholesterol/* and MDA levels.") Coffee may reduce the risk of liver cancer:http://tinyurl.com/n2d8nStudy shows no link between coffee drinking and high blood pressure for ">http://tinyurl.com/px4ogTufts U. study sees NO Coffee-Heart Connection:http://tinyurl.com/n2d8nStudy shows no link between coffee drinking and high blood pressure for women - but does show link w/cola drinking:http://tinyurl.com/mhgomHigh caffeine intake does NOT raise CHD risk:">http://tinyurl.com/p727sandhttp://tinyurl.com/mhgomHigh caffeine intake does NOT raise CHD risk: "This article focuses on a research */study/* conducted in the United States, which revealed that drinking */coffee/* does not increase Coronary Heart Disease risk, even at very high consumption rates. Data from a 20-year follow-up of 44,005 men and 84,488 women found no evidence that */coffee/* consumption increased the risk of CHD once age, weight and smoking status were taken into account. In fact, the researchers found that *drinking more than six cups of */coffee/* a day was associated with a slight reduction in CHD risk.*" This study states that "researchers have long observed that increased caffeine consumption is associated with a reduced risk of type 2 diabetes.":http://tinyurl.com/jt2snAnother plan of attack would be to note some bad habit this person has (everyone does) and find some studies regarding his habits, to harass him instead (food is probably more of a factor). Of course, the other alternative is to simply tell him to mind his own business - but of course, you have to work with this guy. Lynne (who obviously has way too much time on her hands) Thbull wrote: <Snip>
Here's the deal... Coffee may be bad for you: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6242467/Coffee may be good for you: http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier039183Some People need a life: http://www.sj-r.com/sections/news/stories/90972.aspJust glad to help... Brett On 7/17/06, Thbull wrote: <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast Zassman
--Apple-Mail-10-911919876 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset -ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I would smile sweetly and tell your co-worker that delivering an excess of unsolicited and gratuitious criticism has been scientifically proven to be a primary contributor to an individual's risk of susceptibility to physical harm, and then offer to demonstrate this theory for her. She'll back off. On Jul 17, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Thbull wrote: <Snip> Sandy www.sandyandina.com --Apple-Mail-10-911919876 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset -ASCII I would smile sweetly and tell = your co-worker that delivering an excess of unsolicited and gratuitious = criticism has been scientifically proven to be a primary contributor to = an individual's risk of susceptibility to physical harm, and then offer = to demonstrate this theory for her. She'll back off. On Jul = 17, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Thbull wrote:
There is an good article in the March issue of "Critical Review of Food Science and Nutrition" by Jane Higdon, pg 101-123 that reviews the current state of knowledge coffee and health, appropriately titled "Coffee and Health". It covers cancer, heart disease, stroke, Parkinsons, ... I don't know how widely available the journal is but someone mentioned EBSCO and I'm pretty sure that they have the full article on-line. The issue with cholesterol isn't the cholesterol/fat in the coffee oil, but rather the effects of cafestol and kahweol in unfiltered coffee increasing LDLs, VLDLs and homocystine levels - all considered to be potential risk factors for cardiac heart disease. There also seems to be some reduction in HDLs, i.e. good cholesterol. The mechanism hasn't been documented but the results seem to be consistent; that unfiltered coffee increases the factors measurably while filter coffee shows an insignificant increase. Take away the unfiltered coffee and the LDL levels fall. The bottom line is that if you're concerned, talk to your doctor, or use a brewing method that uses a filter. They do note that espresso has higher levels of the two factors, but the small serving size significantly reduces the total effect. Personally I consider the interaction between cell phones and SUVs to be a much more significant risk factor to me than anything I'm going to get out of a coffee cup, but your mileage may vary. --rick Thbull wrote: <Snip>
I hope you never have offered any of your excellent nectar of the beans to the Black Hole of the Universe. Some such folks would actually hold you in contempt if you offered them a gold brick- "It's too heavy, couldn't you just write a check?" The BHU actually knows less than I do about the causes and effects of cholesterol on the human body. That's tough, becase I know Nothing about it and that's only half of the story. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! Some people need lives- back under their rock-
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Or just tell your co-worker that you know drinking coffee could kill you = quicker "but considering the people I have to work with..." and take = another big swig. Enjoy! Steve :->