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Topic: sick Zass, bad hotel espresso (12 msgs / 310 lines)
1) From: Sandy Andina
Here I am in a hotel near the Pittsburgh airport (performing at a  
science fiction convention).  Brought my kettle, gold filter for the  
room's electric mini-drip, one-cup pourover and filters and travel  
press. Also brought the Zass Turkish (the S'bux blade grinder is  
bulky and very messy), 1/4 lb. Guat. Huehue Decaf and 1/2 lb. Guat.  
Huehue El Injerto.  Go to brew myself a filter cone. Good thing I  
brought the press--even at its finest setting it's grinding for a  
perc or press pot.  Should have made a mental note to bring a brush  
or Dust-Off--could it be a matter of dirt or is it dulled burrs?
Also, after dinner I spotted a relatively big one-group plumbed-in  
espresso machine behind the bar. Ordered a latte with two shots. The  
bartender said she'd have to charge for an extra espresso--and pulled  
out a couple of sealed pods. Uh-oh. She pulled one shot that gushed  
out in five seconds and was paler and more transparent than badly  
diluted motel drip brew. Thanks but no thanks.
Sandy Andina
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2) From: raymanowen
Hmmm- Have I ever seen a "S'bux blade grinder "? The Zass Turkish has dulled
burrs ?
I have a set of the Baratza Virtuoso burrs. They should be usable in the
CharB Barista, the Bodum Antigua and the Solis Maestros. Methinks they're
all identical machines, except for cosmetic differences.
If this C3AZ 6250 K camshaft will fit your engine, it's probably a Ford FE
series engine.
The Virtuoso burrs are far better fabricated than the scrap iron pawned off
for the Solis, et al.
All but the Virtuoso have soft, rough-cut upper ring burrs. Both Virt. burrs
have the grain structure of hardened forgings. That ought to put an end to
their "rapid wear" problems.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Got grinder?
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3) From: Vicki Smith
My upper ring burr for my solis maestro classic needs replacing (8 
months in, not grinding for espresso). Do you think I could use a 
Virtuoso burr as a replacement, Ray?
Vicki
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4) From: Alchemist John
Did you actually tell her "no thanks"?
At 22:23 7/27/2006, you wrote:
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5) From: Sandy Andina
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Said blade grinder is a Starbucks Barista electric whirley-blade  
grinder, which I had bought reluctantly because it takes quite a bit  
of time and effort to manually grind enough coffee for a 2-3-person  
pot, especially when time is of the essence when we are doing long  
inter-city drives between gigs. (I am NOT a morning person, and every  
little thing that keeps me from having to arise earlier is a G- 
dsend).  Nonetheless, scooping and pouring the grounds is messier  
than I thought it'd be, having become accustomed to the deeper catch  
bins of burr grinders both manual and electric.
Have no trouble with my electric burr grinders, but they have to stay  
behind with the family when I am on the road.
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Sandy Andina
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Said blade grinder is a =
Starbucks Barista electric whirley-blade grinder, which I had bought =
reluctantly because it takes quite a bit of time and effort to manually =
grind enough coffee for a 2-3-person pot, especially when time is of the =
essence when we are doing long inter-city drives between gigs. (I am NOT =
a morning person, and every little thing that keeps me from having to =
arise earlier is a G-dsend).  Nonetheless, scooping and pouring the =
grounds is messier than I thought it'd be, having become accustomed to =
the deeper catch bins of burr grinders both manual and electric.
Have no trouble with my = electric burr grinders, but they have to stay behind with the family = when I am on the road. On Jul 28, 2006, at 3:56 AM, raymanowen = wrote:
Have I = ever seen a "S'bux blade grinder "?  Sandy Andinawww.sandyandina.com = = --Apple-Mail-70--302925802--

6) From: Sandy Andina
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Indeed I did. And she was okay with it, as she herself was taken  
aback by the miserable quality of the shot. (She is not the usual  
lobby espresso-barista, who uses the same machine but only in the  
mornings, who shuts up shop by 9:30 am).  I noticed she was putting  
the pod in a regular basket, but she said that's the only one she had.
On Jul 28, 2006, at 8:25 AM, Alchemist John wrote:
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Sandy Andina
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Indeed I did. And she was okay =
with it, as she herself was taken aback by the miserable quality of the =
shot. (She is not the usual lobby espresso-barista, who uses the same =
machine but only in the mornings, who shuts up shop by 9:30 am).  I =
noticed she was putting the pod in a regular basket, but she said that's =
the only one she had.
On Jul 28, 2006, at 8:25 AM, =
Alchemist John wrote:

Did you actually tell = her "no thanks"?

At 22:23 7/27/2006, you = wrote:

Also, after dinner I spotted a relatively big = one-group plumbed-in

espresso machine behind the bar. Ordered a latte with two = shots. The

bartender said she'd have to charge for an extra = espresso--and pulled

out a couple of sealed pods. Uh-oh. She pulled one shot = that gushed

out in five seconds and was paler and more transparent = than badly

diluted motel drip brew. Thanks but no thanks.

= Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.com = --Apple-Mail-71--302680686--

7) From: Lynne
Sandy -
If you have to have a blade grinder for when you are on the road, I 
recommend the simple Braun. It is not messy at all - before I knew 
anything about burr grinders, I went nuts trying to find something that 
was designed right. There is no scooping - turn the whole thing upside 
down, & tap a couple of times.
I actually tried the too-huge-for-my-tastes Cuisinart burr grinder (all 
I could find locally, at Costco), before I discovered my Zass. I 
returned it - seriously, I feel that the Braun is better.
The Zass is terrific, but I have little else to do in the morn.
Lynne
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8) From: Sandy Andina
Actually, the Barista is theoretically also an invert-and-tap grinder  
but the lid (doubles as the catch basin) is a tad too shallow to get  
a large scoop like the Aero's into neatly--and no amount of tapping  
and shaking can dislodge the fines that stick to the grind chamber  
walls--you need a spoon handle, the Aero's paddle edge or a swiss  
army knife to dislodge them.  I used to use first a Moulinex and then  
a Krups whirly-blade grinder fifteen years ago before I discovered  
burr grinders. The Moulinex has long since bitten the dust and the  
Krups now belongs to my office.
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Sandy Andina
www.sandyandina.com

9) From: raymanowen
Vicki-
You must use the Virtuoso burrs as a set. I have the SMP grinder, and Kyle
Anderson of Baratza sent me the Virtuoso burrs with the caveat that I
replace them as a set. A Home Run for Baratza/ Solis customer service- What
a breath of fresh air!
The Virtuoso burrs are good-looking case hardened forgings, and they'll
replace the sad sack Solis burrs- not individually, but as a set. Their
geometry is very slightly different, so don't shuffle the burrs between
sets.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder!

10) From: Vicki Smith
Thanks Ray, I'll order a set. I know when I get my espresso machine I'll 
want to upgrade my grinder, but it will be good to have this one for 
everything else.
v
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11) From: miKe mcKoffee
IIRC you said you have a Maestro Classic. Ray said they worked as a set with
the SM Plus. Suggest you verify the Virtuoso burrs will also work with the
SM Classic before shelling out the bucks!
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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12) From: Vicki Smith
Yup, I caught that too miKe.
v
miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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