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Topic: Whoa, be careful with those big batches! (24 msgs / 303 lines)
1) From: miKe mcKoffee
230# batch goes up in flames....http://www.koin.com/news.asp?RECORD_KEY%5Bnews%5D&ID%5Bnews%5DU40Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.

2) From: Michael Wascher
So this is the third crack that I've heard of?
On 8/10/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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"There is nothing new under the sun but there are lots of old things we
don't know." --  Ambrose Bierce

3) From: Lynne
Now THAT'S when you know you've roasted too long...
Lynne
miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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4) From: Scjgb3
i bet starbucks will use those beans...14.99  lb...........lol

5) From: Lynne
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HA! Love it!!!
:-D    :-D :-D
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6) From: Stephen Mitchell
I wish you were kidding. Someone at work will bring them in for my 
Departments coffee pot. The last bag of starbucks someone brought really 
did taste like a "Spanish roast".
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7) From: Scjgb3
way before i found my calling, (home roasting) i tried them 3 different  
times all three were sink shots. so now i say to the ones i know who praise  them. 
i'll put my worst against there best.

8) From: Brett Mason
Sometimes it takes more time and effort to try and teach good coffee to
those who have improved from rancid slurry to wretched burnt slurry.  May
take a lot of time too...
Count the cost before you invest your future trying to evangelize the
content lost....
Brett
On 8/10/06, Scjgb3  wrote:
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Regards,
Brett Mason
HomeRoast
   Zassman

9) From: Scjgb3
But you would think after all these years, they would be able to get it  
right.

10) From: Lynne
Only if 'they' cared...beyond just making money.
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11) From: Scjgb3
I agree with you lynn, its all about the money. I'm surprised Wally world  
hasn't tried to get into the business

12) From: Lynne
What's Wally world?
Lynne
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13) From: Scjgb3
sorry about that, i mean Wal Mart. 

14) From: Lynne
Argh - the Evil Empire! Well, if they can figure out a way to have 
someone in Malaysia roast the beans for 8 cents an hour, cover them with 
some strange chemical, ship them world wide, then after a couple of 
years, sell them to us (calling them 'fresh roasted'), then they just 
might do it...
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15) From: Leo Zick
walmart sources products and removes certain features to make it  
cheaper for the consumer...personally a good approach if you know what  
youre looking for..
however - i cant see how usefull a bag of coffee beans without the  
coffee would be
:p
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16) From: Scjgb3
LMAO. You have hit the nail on the head. I live in a small town in and  S.C. 
and we fought it, but they came here any way. Come to find out the  mayor had 
some stock in the beast. 
 

17) From: Lynne
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Ooooh, Leo, I won't get started on this off-topic, mostly because I'd 
end up blazing like that fire... I've studied big business, and the 
effects on the rest of the world... I'll just say I have very strong 
feelings because of what I've researched.
Basically, all the info anyone needs is in the WalMart 
 movie (and countless websites, too, of 
course). These low prices clearly /do/ come with a very high cost.
My son (he was knew about this years ago - very caring & wise for his 
young age) had convinced me - and this movie gave me the info to back 
what I basically knew already. Very sad. Fortunately, I live in New 
England, where we (at least now!) have plenty of other options for 
shopping. Other places in the U.S. are not so blessed - BECAUSE of 
WalMart practices.
O.K., I won't go on. But I urge anyone who hasn't seen the movie, to see 
it. Take a look at the link, too - lots of reading material.
Lynne
(the eternal trouble-maker)
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18) From: Leo Zick
hah, my job blocks the site, dubbed as 'social opinion'.
i appreciate your feelings toward them, but they provide a product  
that fits into many peoples needs.
you think the gap, or any other huge company isnt the same?  they have  
an excellent biz plan, and it works!
didnt the waltons also start sams club?  no one is complaining about them..
anyway, lets not go OT again, im sorry! :)
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19) From: raymanowen
Ahem- When one studies coffee the way Tom/SM has, and publishes his findings
and descriptions at their expense as they do, there's a lot between the
lines and among the gorgeous pictures.
Can you picture yourself in the misty stillness of one of the coffee farms?
The farm was hacked out of the jungle wilderness, and the weeds tend to
proliferate like a Roman candle firework.
Add to that the presence of Big Coffee who don't want you to produce
anything outstanding or superb: they buy it all, and they want you to
produce more coffee so they can bid it cheaper.
Picture yourself there for a year- not as a paid worker, but the owner. Your
family lives or starves based on your agricultural and business pluck. You
depend on everybody and they depend on you.
But the weather doesn't need you...
LZ- when was that company started, 1984?
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Where's the Coffee?
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20) From: Leo Zick
i dont recall saying i dont appreciate small business. i own one.
what if big coffee didnt offer joe farmer the opporunity, and just  
opened a mega store next to him and drove him out of business?  this  
way, he cant choose to manufacture both the superb and the cheap, and  
use the added profit of the cheap to help make the superb even better.
the chinese do it, maybe we should learn from their manufacturing practices.
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21) From: Andy Thomas
Hey, that's all the warning I need. I'm reducing my
roast batch size to under 220 pounds from now on.
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22) From: Eddie Dove
Like the someone once said ...
Never try to teach a pig to sing!  You'll only get frustrated and end up
irritating the pig!
On 8/10/06, Brett Mason  wrote:
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23) From: Peter Schmidt
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It must have been the same someone that said, "Arguing with a contractor =
is like wrestling with a pig in the mud.  You only get dirty, and the =
pig likes it."
  Like the someone once said ...
  Never try to teach a pig to sing!  You'll only get frustrated and end =
up irritating the pig!
  On 8/10/06, Brett Mason  wrote:
    Sometimes it takes more time and effort to try and teach good coffee =
to those who have improved from rancid slurry to wretched burnt slurry.  =
May take a lot of time too...
    Count the cost before you invest your future trying to evangelize =
the content lost....
    Brett
     
    On 8/10/06, Scjgb3 < Scjgb3> wrote: 
      way before i found my calling, (home roasting) i tried them 3 =
different times all three were sink shots. so now i say to the ones i =
know who praise them. i'll put my worst against there best.
    -- 
    Regards,
    Brett Mason
    HomeRoast
       Zassman 

24) From: Eddie Dove
LMBO!!!
On 8/10/06, Peter Schmidt  wrote:
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