Hi All, I made my decision and went with a Gene Cafe. It just seemed like the better choice--I do like the design, and I can't wait for the controls. Plus, since the factory is about an hour away, servicing should be a snap--the warranty in Korea stipulates that if you have a failure they'll give you a replacement unit within 24 hours, and they'll repair/replace yours. Belive it or not, I haven't had fresh coffee in a month. I sold my last roaster to someone here in Korea before I returned to Canada, and I've been just too busy with work to make one to hold me over, and I didn't want to buy a heat gun ($100+) for only a month of roasting. So the coffee I'm drinking was roasted on July 7th! I haven't had an espresso since the 7th, either. My roaster arrives on Saturday. I cannot wait. My Europiccola's been waving her arm at me for weeks, silently beckoning to me as I walk by...but no longer. She and I are gonna get real intimate real soon. 27 hours and counting. --Derek -- The Uglyroast 3! Coffee Roaster. ...Now 85% less ugly!http://uglyroast.atspace.com
I'm considering a Gene Cafe, please let us know what you think after it arrives. I'm currently roasting with an I-Raost2 and have been very pleased...but I have upgrade fever! Gregg T On 8/11/06, Derek Bradford wrote: <Snip>
Ooooooh! That roaster is next on my list. Please do let us know of your experiences with it. Eddie On 8/11/06, Derek Bradford wrote: <Snip>
I look forward to it. 22 hours to go. On 8/11/06, Eddie Dove wrote: <Snip> -- The Uglyroast 3! Coffee Roaster. ...Now 85% less ugly!http://uglyroast.atspace.com
Derek, How are things going with that Gene Cafe? Mine is due to arrive today! Eddie On 8/11/06, Derek Bradford wrote: <Snip>
Things are good. It roasts as expected and pretty much is exactly what the reviews and other experiences say it is. I like it, and I find I'm roasting more often because it's more convenient. Enjoy! On 8/26/06, Eddie Dove wrote: <Snip> -- The Uglyroast 3! Coffee Roaster. ...Now 85% less ugly!http://uglyroast.atspace.com
I bought a GeneCafe that arrived three days ago. I've roasted two batches- one of some French Roast blend I had sitting around, and the other a Nicaraguan that came as a sample with the roaster from SM. I was impressed with the simplicity and efficiency of the machine. I had anticipated problems seating the glass roasting chamber in the machine, based on a review posted at SM, but overalll found the process of filling, properly seating the cannister, and roasting to be extremely easy. To be expected, the handbook that came with the GeneCafe has a brief roasting schedule for various roast levels- that didn't quite match up with my initial experience. I roasted outside; the heat was about 80 degrees, and I attained the desired roast levels a few minutes earlier than the printed schedule suggested I would. I gave away the French Roast and have yet to hear a review, but the Full City Nica coffee is great. The machine is unbelievably quiet- quieter than I anticipated, even given the heads up in the SM review. Perhaps it was just me, but I also had some trouble hearing the cracks; I had no trouble hearing first and second with my old roaster, even though it was a louder machine. Perhaps the enclosed nature of the roasting chamber muffles the sound a bit, but with the beans in the chamber fully visible- and the smoke (they aren't kidding about the volume of smoke!) beginning to pour from the chaff collector, I had no trouble assessing where I was in the roast. A great machine. I love it. Be sure and put the roast chamber upright in its stand when it's not seated in the machine..... and getting it just right in the stand takes a few seconds of careful placement. Bill Z (who loves being able to fill a quart mason jar with roasted beans with just ONE roast.) -- William R. Zambon First Presbyterian Church, Wyandotte MI (734) 282-3160 (734) 272-7062 cell
On 8/26/06, Bill Zambon wrote: <Snip> I've noticed this, too. Cracks are definately muted, which I find annoying. I like the cracks and miss all that racket. I find it difficult to tell exactly when first crack begins and ends still; something I've never run into with my other roasters. -- The Uglyroast 3! Coffee Roaster. ...Now 85% less ugly!http://uglyroast.atspace.com
Bill, I sure hope we can trade experiences! I also enjoy being able to store my coffee in the mason jars. But, because I am forgetful about some things at times, I snapped some of those one-way degassing valves into some of the lids. Those jars go into a jelly cupboard that my wife was generous enough to volunteer. Opening that thing in the morning is a joy as all of the aromas waft out with the door. After enough time, I use the FoodSaver to vacuum seal the jars. Eddie On 8/25/06, Bill Zambon wrote: <Snip>
If you guys have any tips or roast times / temperatures that you would share, I would greatly appreaciate it! I am half deaf and already have a hard time hearing the cracks anyway. I do need to get a few batches roasted this weekend for my wife as I am going to be down for a while. As always, any help is greatly appreciated. Eddie On 8/25/06, Derek Bradford wrote: <Snip>
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Eddie, Here's my simple (very) roast profile: 1) Fill with 250 grams of greens 2) Set machine for 482 degrees, 20 minutes (it's not going to go that = long, it's just an easy starting number) 3) Let it run. 4) At about 10 minutes (see why I start at 20 - it's 10 minutes in when = you have 10 minutes left) you'll see that the exit air temperature is at = about 450 degrees and the beans are getting that 'near first crack' = look. If you listen closely you can usually hear a snap or two of first = crack 5) Dial the temperature back down to 456. 6) Start keeping a close eye on the exhaust. I use a flashlight. = You're looking for the burst of smoke you get right as the beans get = ready to go into Second crack. Sure, you've been getting smoke building = up in the room for a while but we're looking for the column to be = visible right down near the chaff collector. You'll also smell the = change if you have a sensitive nose like I do. It's usually at about 14 = - 16 minutes into the roast (display will show 4 - 6 minutes left). 7) Hit the Red button to start the cooling cycle, flip open the clear = 'safety cover' to let more heat escape, and set a fan to blow across the = unit. 8) About 10 - 11 minutes later (when it finishes) pour the beans into a = large mesh strainer and give them a stir in front of the fan for a bit = to get them the rest of the way down to room temperature. 9) Pour into mason jars (I use pints so I need 2) and let it rest for a = couple of days. 10) Enjoy while typing up messages like this ;) Enjoy! Steve :->
Steven, This is great! Thank you so much! And I actually ordered a scale with the roaster. I have to look through the beginnings of a stash and see what I am going to roast today. I was going to try the Rwandan, but then I noticed right on the front of the bag, "narrow ideal roast window" ... I think I'll try some others first, but that coffee really sounds good. BUT, first things first ... gotta go brew some ... Yellow Bourbon. I thought the Yellow Bourbon would be way too mild for my liking, but perfect for my wife. It turns out I really like it. Thanks again, I really do appreciate it. Eddie On 8/26/06, Steven Van Dyke wrote: <Snip>
Bill, Thanks for the heads-up on the level of quiet. I'm eyeing the GeneCafe as a replacement for my Fresh Roast, but I'm a bit concerned about what you said because the sounds are the only way I can tell the status of the roast. I wouldn't have a clue as to how to tell where the roast is based on the amount of smoke. Generally, I roast until I hear the first whisps of second crack, then enter cooldown. If I can't hear those whisps, I think I'd be in trouble. Scott Bill Zambon said, "The machine is unbelievably quiet- quieter than I anticipated, even given the heads up in the SM review. Perhaps it was just me, but I also had some trouble hearing the cracks; I had no trouble hearing first and second with my old roaster, even though it was a louder machine. Perhaps the enclosed nature of the roasting chamber muffles the sound a bit, but with the beans in the chamber fully visible- and the smoke (they aren't kidding about the volume of smoke!) beginning to pour from the chaff collector, I had no trouble assessing where I was in the roast."
Scott, Not to disagree too much with Bill, but I can hear the cracks and the whips as you put it. And my wife says I'm deaf ... The tumbler drum action does mute them when compared to my SC/TO, but not completely. I can really hear the rice krispie crackle of second if I let it get away from me. Also the smoke & scent is a great help too. Also, being able to see inside the drum as it rotates is fantastic, you can really watch the color change. Bob ~ Parker CO. ***************************************************** Some of the more environmentally aware dinosaurs were worried about the consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor. "If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.