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Topic: Gene Cafe in a cold garage ? (9 msgs / 224 lines)
1) From: John David Huddle
I do all my roasting in the attached garage.    Here in central Ohio, 
sometimes the garage temp gets down into the 30's.    For my own comfort, I 
often use a kerosene heater to warm my coffee roasting corner  before I go 
out to roast, but with my 'wb' roasters I have to put a box over them to get 
enough heat to finish 1st crack.    They have no problem hitting 2nd crack 
in warm weather.
Now the question.    Does anyone have experience using the Gene Cafe when 
the surrounding temp. is in the mid 40's?         My worn out Alpenrost did 
OK in those conditions.
Dave in Westerville

2) From: Brett Mason
Not your answer, but parallel:
  I have Drum Roasted OUTSIDE in 0 degree winter snow, with good results...
On 8/17/06, John David Huddle  wrote:
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3) From: miKe mcKoffee
Have they been around long enough for Winter roasting experiences?
Regardless any heating appliance will be affected by ambient =
(even fire for that matter) But a high air flow roaster would be more
affected than a low air flow roaster like the Gene Café'. Cooling time =
of course be shorter too low ambient.
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4) From: Derek Bradford
I use a fan with my Gene Cafe by the window.  If the fan is blowing on
the roaster at all, it has a difficult time getting up to maximum
temperature.  My guess is the heating element is not powerful enough
to compensate for cold ambient temperatures.
That said, by opening the top cover and blowing the fan directly on
the chamber during cooling, I can reduce cooling time from 11 minutes
to 8.  It seems to cool down quicker at the beginning, but the last 30
C (90-60C) seem to go just as slowly.
On 8/18/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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5) From: Steven Van Dyke
Not sure if anyone does *yet* - I got mine fairly early in the cycle of Tom
carrying them and it was already Spring here.
I roast in our sun room and it can get cool in the Winter - especially when
I open the door / windows for ventilation!  My plan is to change my starting
time from 20 minutes (used simply to make it easier to keep track of how
long it's been) to as far as it goes.  That's the beauty of the GeneCafe's
ability to change your settings at any time.
BTW, right now my 'profile' is: start set for 482 (max temp) / 20 minutes
(easy to work with time greater than I need).
Let it run at 'full blast' until I'm coming up into the edges of first
crack.  This is generally at 10 minutes elapsed, exit air temp running about
Dial the temp down to 456 to hold it there (why don't I start there? because
if I did the machine would start cycling the heat as it approached).
Start watching the exhaust for the smoke increase thst heralds the
transition toward Second crack.  Due to the lag in response caused by the
GeneCafe's less than powerful cooling you need to start cooling a bit before
you hit your desired roast level.  Once I judge that I'm just about 'right'
I hit the cool button, flip open the cover (to let more heat out) and
arrange a fan to blow across the unit.  Takes about 11 minutes for it to do
its full cooling cycle.
Then I dump the beans into a larger mesh strainer and stir them in front of
the fan to do the last bit of cooling before I dump them in mason jars for
resting / storage.
Steve :->

6) From: Derek Bradford
On 8/18/06, Steven Van Dyke  wrote:
Interesting.  I find mine cools in 8 minutes that way; it was 11
before I added the fan.  I wonder what the difference is?
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7) From: Steven Van Dyke
I'd say a combination of the fan and the ambient temperature.  It's been
running in the 80's (or higher) in the sun room during roasting.
I still need to get around to making a 'turbo booster' for GeneCafe cooli=
Someone posted that they use their ShopVac to pull air through during the=
cooling for greatly reduced times.  I tested and it *does* work but it's
a bother with where things are for me.
I want to make a triangular unit that sets over the output screen of the
GeneCafe's chaff collector.  Inside is a squirrel cage fan to pull the ai=
out and the box is open at the top point along one side to let the air ou=
 It can probably be battery powered.  All it has to do is pull air throug=
the unit at a higher speed and we'll get faster cooling.  Only thing I th=
might be tricky is that the initial air is going to be close to 500F.
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8) From: Derek Bradford
On 8/18/06, Steven Van Dyke  wrote:
That's about what temperature I'm roasting in, too.  Sometimes hotter.
But, mine's a 220V model, and it could be from a different production
run than yours.  Who knows...
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9) From: Eddie Dove
If the cold becomes a problem, use of a heater similar to those found at
this link http://tinyurl.com/zdfhk*will warm your garage very, very
quickly and even with some ventilation, your garage should retain the heat
long enough for you and your roaster to be quite comfortable.  This past
winter, I had to do a lot of work on the house and had to setup shop in my
garage.  I got a similar heater from Lowe's and it really did the trick ...
I cannot stand to work in cold weather (I am originally from Maryland).
While it does not get as cold for as long down here, my father, who lives in
Virginia uses a similar heater in his garage that has 12 foot high cielings.
On 8/17/06, John David Huddle  wrote:

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