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Topic: Caffeine-removing coffee stirrer?? (23 msgs / 631 lines)
1) From: David Yeager
Has anyone else seen this?
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Your Way To Decaf Goodness
Reduce Your Caffeine Intake with One Swirl: 
Scientific Breakthrough Enables Consumers to 
Enjoy Coffee and Tea Without the Jitters; 
Innovative MIPs Technology Removes Caffeine 
Without Sacrificing Taste or Aroma ­
Source: Business Wire, July 24, 2006. “The DeCaf 
Company, LLC, an advanced polymers research and 
prototype company that has invented and patented 
high-tech polymers, today announced a scientific 
breakthrough that will allow coffee or tea 
drinkers to reduce and control the amount of 
caffeine within their beverages ­ all within a 
matter of seconds ­ and without compromising the 
taste and quality of the drink. … The scientific 
innovation, called “MIPs” (molecularly-imprinted 
polymers), is applied and used in tandem with the 
traditional coffee stirrer or cup. The stirrer or 
cup is coated with harmless molecular polymer 
beads that specifically attract caffeine 
molecules. As the consumer stirs the beverage, 
the caffeine molecules bind to the MIPs- 
imprinted stirring sticks or MIPs coated sides of 
the cup, rapidly reducing the levels of caffeine 
within the drink itself. The longer the consumer 
leaves the stirrer in the cup, the more caffeine 
is removed. With just a few swirls, caffeine can 
be reduced to up to 70 percent in most drinks.”
Here is where I first found it:http://www.prbop.com/wp/2006/07/It has a link to the original article.
David Y
Atlanta 

2) From: Derek Bradford
I haven't.  Interesting idea, though.  I wonder how well it works.  I
wonder what they haven't thought of.  Tom?  Any thoughts?
--Derek
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3) From: Aaron
Ok and for the caffeine junkie, you will see the used sticks themselves 
being sold on the streets for a few bucks a pop.  Just chew on this 
thing a bit and zingo.... it's wire city..
Interesting concept though indeed especially if it dont affect taste.
Aaron

4) From: Alchemist John
It sounds like an analytical extraction technique 
I have used in the past call SPME or SPE (solid 
phase micro-extraction).  I would be surprised if 
targeted only caffeine, but I could see it being 
attuned to that kind of molecule in general, 
either a benzene or other aromatic 
group.  Something like polydivinylbenzene (PDVB) 
would work pretty well I suspect.  I will have to 
go read the article.  I do know that stirring and 
coolness increase adsorption in general.  But as 
was said, I wonder what else is being 
extracted.  Thing is, it would be easy to 
tell.  Use it, strip off the analytes with a 
solvent and analyze them.  Mostly, I like my caffeine thank you.
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5) From: Eddie Dove
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to target the caffiene.  I think they also had some of products of the same
ilk in testing, but they weren't ready for mass production.
Eddie
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6) From: raymanowen
OK. Timeout.
This is a coffee oriented list, Dammit.
Where do people get off talking about the emasculation of this pleasant
beverage, in which a small factor of caffeine is natural- hence decaf is
un-natural or ersatz?
We don't talk about colonics- Oh, What A Relief It Is-
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got passed-
We don't talk about the Bad Ass coffee shop without some fear and
trepidation-
We don't talk about the what-if the Ethiopian goats had just found some
decaf coffee cherries-
(Do you suppose Kaldi the goatherd would have been first to discover "ToFu"
as the goats expectorated?)
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Decaf deactivates Viagra and causes flatulence-
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7) From: Eddie Dove
Like I said before ... you are so bad!  ;-P
But ... keep it comin'!
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8) From: Derek Hammock
I find it interesting when people talk about decaf and relate it to some 
manhood thing. I have heard many comments in my short life about 
caffeine being related to manliness. But, I must say, I have never heard 
a woman talk about decaf drinkers being sissies. Is this correlation or 
causation? Is there a genetic code in male human beings that requires 
men to drink caffeine? I wonder what Freud would say.
I drink caf and decaf. Do I feel like a sissy when I drink decaf? I 
don't think so. But why would some men feel threatened by it? Maybe 
there is some anthropological answer to this topic. It seems almost like 
the high school kid in the 80's was made fun of because he didn't have a 
mullet haircut.
Hey, some love coffee but can't handle all the caffeine. The article was 
completely related to coffee. I don't feel threatened by it or worried. 
Enjoy coffee which ever way that may be.
Regards,
Derek
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9) From: Angelo
I've always found that caffeine has a an energy 
producing effect which, when properly channelled, 
does aid in the art of "manly" pursuits. ( I 
realize that this a family show). I've never 
heard anyone, however, refer to the drinking of 
decafe as a "sissy" thing...but then I live in Manhattan :-)
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10) From: Sean Cary
The times I have needed caffeine the most are when I am on about day 3 or 4
of a field op and cannot remember my kids names...and honestly I cannot
think of anything more manly then doing "Marine" things...
My .02 - but then I also drink 32oz of coffee a day on a typical day, and
4-6 diet Dr. Peppers - so go figure.  
Yeah, go ahead and make fun of the diet Dr. Pepper - I dare you.
Sean M. Cary
Major USMC
Tempus Fugit - Memento Mori

11) From: george
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If GOD didn't want caffeene in the coffee bean
in there it wouldn't have been there for all to be seen.
For he who demoved that which GOD has supplied
he has surely sinned, be judged when he will eventually die.
Sorry folks, I'm not a poet and now you all know it.
George Miller

12) From: Aaron
Diet Dr Pepper?
Please tell me you are not one of those folks that will pile two plates 
heaping full of food so bad they are bending and splitting, then top it 
off with a diet soda, like it's going to counteract the 8000 calories 
underneath heh.  I used to get a kick out of seeing that when we'd have 
our command picnics and stuff..
If you like Creme Soda,  shasta makes a diet creme soda that really 
taste pretty good, and for like 98 cents a 6 pack it's just my price 
too!  4 to 6 cans a day, not too much actually, Id probably go through 
about the same of regular Dr Pepper myself, along with the coffee.  The 
ones who were bad would probably down a 12 pack of Mtn Dew a day or more.
Decaf, yah we'd do that too from time to time, I got yelled at a few 
times for 'wiring' the JO's too bad with a super shot of cappucino (ok 
12 ounce cup of coffee / cream made from the amount of grounds Id 
normally use for about 2 pots of regular coffee)  so sometimes folks 
would opt for the decaf  or a blend of mostly decaf if they wanted to 
stay up for just the next 4 hours or so and not 4 days.  Then there was 
vic,  he'd get a cup of coffee, and then add instant coffee to it like 
the instant was sugar.. claimed it gave it a 'kick'...vic always was 
like the out of control ritalyn child to begin with.... I wonder why.
Manliness or lack thereof, all depends in the application and practical 
use of the Diet soda.   For what it's worth, coke worked great for 
shining the brass drains under the urinals too, never did check if diet 
worked better than regular soda.  I suppose I could write a few letters 
and give it a field test if the question becomes pressing.
As long as you are not drinking the diet along with eating quiche, I 
don't believe you can call diet soda, unmanly.
Aaron

13) From: Michael Wascher
I've found myself drinking more Diet Coke since home-roasting. I make a
thermos of coffee to take to work, but then there's no way I'm going to
drink the drek at work. Nothing nearby either.
When I was at Bell Labs we had a Java City in the building. A friend & I got
our masters taking classes part time. Classes in the building we worked in,
and Java City was our first & last stop of the day. Plus visits during the
day.
Java City folded 6 months after Lisa & I got our degrees. A coincident? I
think not!
On 8/28/06, Sean Cary  wrote:
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Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind.
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14) From: Aaron
Sorry folks, I'm not a poet and now you all know it.
George Miller
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so... what you are saying is that somebody needs to do a tithing at St 
Beanyface, the church of the second crack.
I still think there's going to be a bigger market for the used caffeine 
stir sticks than the original intent as folks look for the wiring 
properties they might give if ya chew the caffeine out of them.  Id be 
willing to give it a shot... all in the name of science of course.
Aaron

15) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Aaron,
	You describe some people I know in the Navy I am sitting here
reading and nodding my head having seen the exact same thing, Guess some
people never change. What were you when you were in?
Back to the Topic- I love the idea because since I have been roasting I
love the taste of coffee(No surprise there) but if I want a cup of my
favorite at 10PM I am torn do I want sleep or coffee? With this I can
enjoy my favorite cup anytime and not lose sleep over it (excuse the
play on words)
Dennis AKA
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True
CS-5 DSPO
CS Dept CC
CS Dept TRANO
Duty Sec 1 CS E6 S/L
CS Dept Mentorship Coordinator
"Life Liberty and the pursuit of all who threaten it..."
...Decaf, yah we'd do that too from time to time, I got yelled at a few 
times for 'wiring' the JO's too bad with a super shot of cappucino (ok 
12 ounce cup of coffee / cream made from the amount of grounds Id 
normally use for about 2 pots of regular coffee)  so sometimes folks 
would opt for the decaf  or a blend of mostly decaf if they wanted to 
stay up for just the next 4 hours or so and not 4 days.  Then there was 
vic,  he'd get a cup of coffee, and then add instant coffee to it like 
the instant was sugar.. claimed it gave it a 'kick'...vic always was 
like the out of control ritalyn child to begin with.... I wonder why.
Manliness or lack thereof, all depends in the application and practical 
use of the Diet soda.   For what it's worth, coke worked great for 
shining the brass drains under the urinals too, never did check if diet 
worked better than regular soda.  I suppose I could write a few letters 
and give it a field test if the question becomes pressing.
As long as you are not drinking the diet along with eating quiche, I 
don't believe you can call diet soda, unmanly.
Aaron

16) From: Justin Marquez
On 8/29/06, george  wrote:
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... but yer feet show it, 'cause they're long fellows!
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)

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Dr. Brown's Diet Cream Soda RULES!!! (Shasta's not easy to find in  
Chicago, and I grew up in NYC drinking Dr. Brown's regular sodas).   
And for the record, I've never been able to "pile" a buffet plate  
with anything but salad without getting queasy--I tend to "hit the  
wall" pretty quickly on much smaller portions than most folks, but as  
a result I do need to eat a tad more often too.  All-you-can-eat  
buffet places love me, because I can never eat enough at one meal to  
get my money's worth.
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Dr. Brown's Diet Cream Soda =
RULES!!! (Shasta's not easy to find in Chicago, and I grew up in NYC =
drinking Dr. Brown's regular sodas).  And for the record, I've never =
been able to "pile" a buffet plate with anything but salad without =
getting queasy--I tend to "hit the wall" pretty quickly on much smaller =
portions than most folks, but as a result I do need to eat a tad more =
often too.  All-you-can-eat buffet places love me, because I can never =
eat enough at one meal to get my money's worth.
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If you like Creme Soda,  shasta makes a diet creme = soda that really taste pretty good, and for like 98 cents a 6 pack it's = just my price too! 

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18) From: Aaron
You can't get shasta in chicago anymore sandy?  Wow, I almost grew up on 
that stuff back in the days.  Southside, so perhaps the town makes a 
difference, but they used to have it at the Eagle Foodstore, the Jewel, 
the Dominicks,  (most of those are probably long gone) but I always 
thought it was sort of a chicago area thing like the Old Style beer is.  
We used to get that, the root beer, and something else they had.  i also 
remember a soda that was like iridescent green,  I am thinking the name 
was Green River, and if I remember correctly that was a shasta product 
too.  wow the memories.
Aaron

19) From: Aaron
Dennis, I was an engineer when I was in.  Well ok GSE... but an ornery 
one and not the normal whiny whimpery type you normally see in the Gas 
Turbine sector.  I basically cut my teeth as an electrician in the real 
navy when we still fixed things that were broke instead of calling a 
tech rep or ordering a whole new one of whatever.  The temperature at 
the switchboards was about 130 degrees on a good day and you wore T 
shirts and cutoff dungarees on watch in main control.  Pulling a 48 to 
60 hour 'stint' to get through an Oppe was expected and Port and 
Starboard (or port and report as we called it) was the normal watch 
rotation for most of us.  16 hour days were normal and with that, the 
coffee pot was wired up to emergency power so as long as we had an 
emergency generator running, the engineers had coffee. *(Later on in the 
GS world, I ran a 'hot wire' and wired my coffee pot directly up to the 
UPS system for the control consoles much to the ire of a few folks)  
Occasionally twidgets were allowed in the hole, but they were there 
either because they were studying for their ESWS and I was giving a 
class that night or they got caught taking a 'hollywood' and I was 
showing them how water was made and making life miserable for the 6 
hours I had them down there.  However there were two times  when the 
doors were open to anyone for a short time... watch take over, and watch 
turn over.  Id have the coffee pot running and would give what at the 
time we called "real" coffee, or espresso's or cappucino's to anyone who 
asked.
I was in from 83 to 04 .. and retired as a CPO.   Before I made rank I 
always used to pull the smart ass comment that CPO stood for coffee pot 
operator... wow little did I know HAH!!!
Aaron

20) From: Scjgb3
I was living in Alabama at the time the Shasta warehouse was just outside  of 
Tarrant Alabama. I was about 8-9 years old. It was right after a tornado had  
ripped through the town and had hit the Shasta plant, there was Shasta cans  
found for MILES after that. It was a good drink and I haven't heard the name 
in  a long time. Matter of fact it was so good that my grandmother had a  
dachshund named Shasta.
 
Happy brewing to you and yours
joel

21) From: Steve Hay
On 8/29/06, Aaron  wrote:
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(Obvious) point taken.  However, I've found that "diet" is a bit more of a
habit.  A lot of people drink a signifigant amount of soda and the calories
do add up.  I know people who probably drink about 2 L of soda per day which
is about 900 calories.  My point is that for people who drink alot of soda,
it can be significant and those are usually the ones that make a habit of
drinking diet instead.
Maybe similar point with decaf.  I've considered decaf simply because afger
drinking 12-24 cups of coffee I can get pretty darn wired and I'd rather
stay normal and have the flavor.  For a person drinking a single cup per day
the effects are less noticable (although I think this depends on body
chemistry; some people are affected more by caffeine than others)
-- 
Steven Hay
hay.steve -AT- gmail.com
Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural
numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural
number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."

22) From: Sean Cary
No - I am cursed with being over my allowable weight for the USMC - so I am
diet fanatic...except for a week after each physical fitness test - then I
eat like there is no tomorrow - then back to the grind and preparing for my
next PFT.
But when you think of the logic - if a snickers is +1 and a diet coke -1  -
they should negate each other right?
Sean M. Cary
Major USMC
Tempus Fugit - Memento Mori

23) From: Alchemist John
"if" sure, except your values are wrong.  Snickers is +4 and diet 
coke is 0.  The diet coke doesn't burn calories, it just keeps you 
from adding even more.
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