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Topic: Green Coffee Life (9 msgs / 222 lines)
1) From: Derek
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I am sure this topic has been covered but I wanted to try to get some
conclusive information from all the experts.
How long can green coffee beans last in storage? Can I buy enough for 3
months (roasting weekly) or should it be a shorter time? Also, what are the
best methods of storage?
Regards,
Derek Hammock
BTW- I have reached espresso nirvana. With fresh roasted coffee using a Z&D
roaster ground with a rocky grinder and using just a gaggia cervezza, I
found crema heaven. It is beautiful and I am getting more consistent at it.
Anybody have any tamper preferences? I have just been using the plastic one.

2) From: miKe mcKoffee
Depending on storage method up to a year or so should be fine.http://homeroast.pbwiki.com/FrontPage#WhatarethebestmethodstostoregreensKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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some conclusive information from all the experts.
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for 3 months (roasting weekly) or should it be a shorter time? Also, what
are the best methods of storage?
	Regards,
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	BTW- I have reached espresso nirvana. With fresh roasted coffee
using a Z&D roaster ground with a rocky grinder and using just a gaggia
cervezza, I found crema heaven. It is beautiful and I am getting more
consistent at it. Anybody have any tamper preferences? I have just been
using the plastic one.

3) From: Don Cummings
I have heard a year or more on the beans.  I vac seal my greens and feel
comfortable that they will last at least the year.
As far as tampers are concerned. Any commercially available 58 mm tamper
will be worlds better than that plastic one.  Since this is the SMs maillist
have you checked out the ones available at our host's store?
On 8/30/06, Derek  wrote:
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Don

4) From: Brett Mason
Les' work at www.thortamper.com is the high road.  I just received my new
ThorTamper - it is beautiful, works incredibly well, and is highly
recommended.  These are available at Sweet Maria's in particular!
If you don't go there, then all you have is a plain tamper.  Resist the
disappointment and purchase the best!
Brett
On 8/30/06, Don Cummings  wrote:
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Cheers,
Brett

5) From: Heat + Beans --all the rest is commentary
"Conclusive" information is a worthwhile, if chimeric quest----especially
frustrating if polling "all the experts."  Don't get me wrong, the experts
may be flawed, but they are the best things we've got, and who else you
gonna ask?
Besides, once you get expert information, it changes.  Just a few years ago,
the most "widely" disseminated info was that 2-3 years was a safe bet.  I
think, but cannot be sure, that this was the standard wisdom on this site
and even Tom allowed that time frame to pass.  (please correct me if anyone
has a different "history.")  Relatively recently, Tom offered that one year
was a good target, but that can vary according to storage, bean variety,
crop date, and so on.   Personally, I order with three months in mind,
grossly misjudge and overreach by a factor of 3 or 4, wind up with some
beans going a year or more, and lack the cupping skills to detect the "loss"
if there happens to be one.
Martin
Heat + Beans
    all the rest is commentary
On 8/30/06, Derek  wrote:
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6) From: Eddie Dove
Excellent information can be gleaned by using the search on Sweet Maria's
website.  Search for "green bean storage".
Eddie
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7) From: Aaron
Let's put it this way.
You can ask 50 different people how long a bean will store and you will 
get 50 different answers.
It isn't a 'simple solution'  How you store them and the climate / 
temperature of their storage area plays into it,  The container stored 
in plays into it, there are a lot of factors.
Do know that no matter what you do to it, the beans ARE changing in 
storage, the flavors are subtly changing etc as they age.  This does not 
mean to imply they are going bad, just that they are not going to be 
what they were fresh... which is not necessarily a bad thing either..
Common consensus  I have heard from originally 2 to 3 years, to recently 
'updated' to say about a year... but if you are looking for 'freshest of 
fresh'.... then you should use them 'in a reasonable amount of time'.
I have beans that I have had sitting in a plastic bag, and next to them 
beans from a SM's cloth bag......  I roasted both recently... both have 
been sitting there for at least a year and a half...  They were part of 
my very first 'full harvey' purchace from SM's..... they turned out fine 
and still taste wonderful... I am quite sure they taste different from 
when they were first bought, but even for that, they still taste great.....
id say that they should last a while, and as long as they are not  
Molding, Molting, or Moving, they should be ok.
aaron.

8) From: Leo Zick
Holy moly, more unhidden treasures on the sm site!!
So much good info, so hard to find it all :(

9) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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I had some new ideas about reorganizing the "Coffee Library" into a 
format that will allow questions, comments and revisions AND (most 
importatnly) make all the articles easier to find. But that will have 
to wait a bit since I will be out "coffee hunting" in Peru for 10 
days.
Tom
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     Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA
             phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com


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