This is a multi-part message in MIME format. I am sure this topic has been covered but I wanted to try to get some conclusive information from all the experts. How long can green coffee beans last in storage? Can I buy enough for 3 months (roasting weekly) or should it be a shorter time? Also, what are the best methods of storage? Regards, Derek Hammock BTW- I have reached espresso nirvana. With fresh roasted coffee using a Z&D roaster ground with a rocky grinder and using just a gaggia cervezza, I found crema heaven. It is beautiful and I am getting more consistent at it. Anybody have any tamper preferences? I have just been using the plastic one.
Depending on storage method up to a year or so should be fine.http://homeroast.pbwiki.com/FrontPage#WhatarethebestmethodstostoregreensKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. From: homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Derek Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM <Snip> some conclusive information from all the experts. <Snip> for 3 months (roasting weekly) or should it be a shorter time? Also, what are the best methods of storage? Regards, <Snip> BTW- I have reached espresso nirvana. With fresh roasted coffee using a Z&D roaster ground with a rocky grinder and using just a gaggia cervezza, I found crema heaven. It is beautiful and I am getting more consistent at it. Anybody have any tamper preferences? I have just been using the plastic one.
I have heard a year or more on the beans. I vac seal my greens and feel comfortable that they will last at least the year. As far as tampers are concerned. Any commercially available 58 mm tamper will be worlds better than that plastic one. Since this is the SMs maillist have you checked out the ones available at our host's store? On 8/30/06, Derek wrote: <Snip> -- Don
Les' work at www.thortamper.com is the high road. I just received my new ThorTamper - it is beautiful, works incredibly well, and is highly recommended. These are available at Sweet Maria's in particular! If you don't go there, then all you have is a plain tamper. Resist the disappointment and purchase the best! Brett On 8/30/06, Don Cummings wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Brett
"Conclusive" information is a worthwhile, if chimeric quest----especially frustrating if polling "all the experts." Don't get me wrong, the experts may be flawed, but they are the best things we've got, and who else you gonna ask? Besides, once you get expert information, it changes. Just a few years ago, the most "widely" disseminated info was that 2-3 years was a safe bet. I think, but cannot be sure, that this was the standard wisdom on this site and even Tom allowed that time frame to pass. (please correct me if anyone has a different "history.") Relatively recently, Tom offered that one year was a good target, but that can vary according to storage, bean variety, crop date, and so on. Personally, I order with three months in mind, grossly misjudge and overreach by a factor of 3 or 4, wind up with some beans going a year or more, and lack the cupping skills to detect the "loss" if there happens to be one. Martin Heat + Beans all the rest is commentary On 8/30/06, Derek wrote: <Snip> --
Excellent information can be gleaned by using the search on Sweet Maria's website. Search for "green bean storage". Eddie On 8/30/06, Derek wrote: <Snip>
Let's put it this way. You can ask 50 different people how long a bean will store and you will get 50 different answers. It isn't a 'simple solution' How you store them and the climate / temperature of their storage area plays into it, The container stored in plays into it, there are a lot of factors. Do know that no matter what you do to it, the beans ARE changing in storage, the flavors are subtly changing etc as they age. This does not mean to imply they are going bad, just that they are not going to be what they were fresh... which is not necessarily a bad thing either.. Common consensus I have heard from originally 2 to 3 years, to recently 'updated' to say about a year... but if you are looking for 'freshest of fresh'.... then you should use them 'in a reasonable amount of time'. I have beans that I have had sitting in a plastic bag, and next to them beans from a SM's cloth bag...... I roasted both recently... both have been sitting there for at least a year and a half... They were part of my very first 'full harvey' purchace from SM's..... they turned out fine and still taste wonderful... I am quite sure they taste different from when they were first bought, but even for that, they still taste great..... id say that they should last a while, and as long as they are not Molding, Molting, or Moving, they should be ok. aaron.
Holy moly, more unhidden treasures on the sm site!! So much good info, so hard to find it all :(
<Snip> I had some new ideas about reorganizing the "Coffee Library" into a format that will allow questions, comments and revisions AND (most importatnly) make all the articles easier to find. But that will have to wait a bit since I will be out "coffee hunting" in Peru for 10 days. Tom <Snip> -- "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters" Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting - Tom & Maria http://www.sweetmarias.com Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com