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1) From: Nancy Crabtree
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Hello, I am new to this group.  I am in love with my freshly roasted =
coffee!!  I have enjoyed reading your emails.  My coffee grinder died =
tonight.  I wanted to know if any of you had any recommendations.  I =
want one just to use at home -  under $200.00 if possible. 
Thanks so much,
Nancy
my email is 
ncrabtree

2) From: Nancy Crabtree
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No. I use a Bunn coffee maker and I do like a fine grind.  Hope this =
helps.
Nancy

3) From: Sandy Andina
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Baratza Virtuoso.  You may even get to use it for espresso till you  
can afford a Mazzer (or at least a Rocky).
On Aug 31, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Nancy Crabtree wrote:
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Sandy
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Baratza Virtuoso.  You may =
even get to use it for espresso till you can afford a Mazzer (or at =
least a Rocky).
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wrote:
No. I use a Bunn coffee = maker and I do like a fine grind.  Hope this = helps.----- Original = Message -----From: Barry LutermanTo: homeroastSent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 9:27 PMSubject: Re: +my coffee grinder = died! Nancy are you using it for espresso?Do you intend = getting into espresso someday? Can't give advice without = knowing----- Original = Message -----From: Nancy = CrabtreeTo: homeroastSent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:25 PMSubject: +my coffee grinder = died! Hello, I am new to this group.  I am in love with = my freshly roasted coffee!!  I have enjoyed reading your emails.  My = coffee grinder died tonight.  I wanted to know if any of you had any = recommendations.  I want one just to use at home -  under $200.00 if = possible. Thanks so much,Nancy   
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4) From: Eddie Dove
Nancy,
I do not grind for espresso, but for brewed coffee.  I have a KitchenAid
Proline and do like it very much.  It is quite capable of a fine grind and
may cost upwards of $200.00.
Eddie
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5) From: Michael Guterman
I have a Maestro that we use for drip at my ex wife's house.  It grinds 
quality coffee, but has failed twice in the last three years.  The first 
time they were able to talk me through the fix, and sent me new upper 
burrs, which solved it.  This time it has to be shipped back to Oregon.  
Since it is out of warranty, the shipping and repair are a not 
insignificant portion of the cost of a more robust grinder.
Michael
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6) From: Mike Denson
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I'm in the market for a new grinder.  These posts have raised a
question.  What is the difference between the Solis Maestro and the
Baratza Virtuoso?  
 
Mike

7) From: Eddie Dove
While we are on this topic, what is meant by the term "prosumer"?
Eddie
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8) From: Sandy Andina
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On Aug 31, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Mike Denson wrote:
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The Virtuoso is the Maestro Plus on steroids. The Maestro Plus has a  
metal base and more fineness "stops" than the Maestro. The Virtuoso  
is much heavier, has an improved and sturdier burr carrier ring and  
even more gradations.  It is supposed to grind quite evenly.  The  
Maestro Plus was my first "serious" grinder--I even used it for the  
first month I had a Silvia espresso machine.  Still using it as my  
drip/press grinder.
And Eddie Dove wrote:
 >>While we are on this topic, what is meant by the term "prosumer"?<<
It's a designation for equipment that is professional quality but  
intended for home use.  Nearly exclusively espresso gear. Some might  
even be certified for "light" commercial use. Stuff like a Rancilio  
Silvia & Rocky or a Gaggia don't quite reach that level.  But most  
heat exchanger machines on up (especially with e61 groupheads) and  
Mazzer Mini or Macap M4 grinders do.  When it comes to  
superautomatics, there's a school of thought that none qualify; but  
some in the $1K+ range do find their way into small restaurants and  
bars.
Sandy
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at 9:42 PM, Mike Denson wrote:
>>I'm in the market for = a new grinder.  These posts have raised a question.  What is the = difference between the Solis Maestro and the Baratza = Virtuoso?<< The = Virtuoso is the Maestro Plus on steroids. The Maestro Plus has a metal = base and more fineness "stops" than the Maestro. The Virtuoso is much = heavier, has an improved and sturdier burr carrier ring and even more = gradations.  It is supposed to grind quite evenly.  The Maestro Plus = was my first "serious" grinder--I even used it for the first month I had = a Silvia espresso machine.  Still using it as my drip/press = grinder.
And Eddie Dove = wrote:>>While we are on this topic, what is meant by = the term "prosumer"?<<
It's a designation = for equipment that is professional quality but intended for home use.  = Nearly exclusively espresso gear. Some might even be certified for = "light" commercial use. Stuff like a Rancilio Silvia & Rocky or a = Gaggia don't quite reach that level.  But most heat exchanger machines = on up (especially with e61 groupheads) and Mazzer Mini or Macap M4 = grinders do.  When it comes to superautomatics, there's a school of = thought that none qualify; but some in the $1K+ range do find their way = into small restaurants and bars. = --Apple-Mail-10-532569278--

9) From: Mike Denson
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Thanks Sandy. I'll use my grinder for drip only.  Is the Virtuoso refurb
(at the same price as the Maestro Plus) still the way to go, or would I
be better off with the new vs.. refurb unit.
 
Mike

10) From: Eddie Dove
Thanks Sandy.
Eddie
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11) From: Nancy Crabtree
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Thanks to all of  you.  I had been looking at a Bunn coffee maker and =
your information has helped.
Anyone else that has an opinion or experience I welcome also.  I have =
enjoyed reading all of  your posts.
Nancy

12) From: Sandy Andina
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Refurbs are a great value. Go for it.
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Refurbs are a great value. Go =
for it.
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Thanks Sandy. I'll use my = grinder for drip only.  Is the Virtuoso refurb (at the same price as = the Maestro Plus) still the way to go, or would I be better off with the = new vs.. refurb unit.   MikeSandy = --Apple-Mail-15-534438210--

13) From: Eddie Dove
Nancy,
By the way, WELCOME TO THE GROUP!
Eddie
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14) From: Tom Bellhouse
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Solis Maestro.  I got one at a substantial discount from SM because it =
was a returned item.  They may have more.  http://tinyurl.com/l769xTom in GA

15) From: Scot Murphy
On Aug 31, 2006, at 11:18 PM, Tom Bellhouse wrote:
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I recommend against the Maestro. I got one two Christmases ago and  
it's just about useless now. I've cleaned it and cleaned it, and it  
takes forever to grind for a single 20-ounce vac pot. The grind isn't  
even anymore, either. Something came loose or unbalanced or something  
(probably the plastic seat for the burrs), and I get a grind that is  
not significantly better than the LaPavoni cheapie I have over at my  
folks' house. It seems like a good buy now, and for a while you will  
get a nice grind, but over time, it deteriorates. Get something better.
Scot "that KA Proline looks nice" Murphy

16) From: raymanowen
You asked, "What is the difference between the Solis Maestro and the Baratza
Virtuoso? " Actually, if you tear them down, they're almost identical- at
least 95% of the parts are interchangeable.
The Maestro is the earlier model-
the Maestro Plus has a piece of cast zinc cheesecake screwed to the base for
increased weight only, and the Grind adjustment ring is modified "for
increased grind adjustment range."
I had both grinders and thought the conical burrs were a Primo idea.
Actually, the Achilles Heel of both grinders. The center burrs were well
made and extremely hard- they would outlast six of the outer ring burrs.
Instead of just providing a higher quality ring burr, the burr design was
changed a lot and the thing was given a new model designation along with
another improvement in the Grind adjustment ring.
I disliked their Customer Servicing, but Mr. Kyle Anderson, Baratza
President, has completely changed my opinion. Anderson wouldn't leave me
hanging.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!--
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

17) From: miKe mcKoffee
Before buying a refurb grinder I'd ask if the burrs are new. 
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Sandy Andina
	Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:53 PM
	
	Refurbs are a great value. Go for it.
	
	On Aug 31, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Mike Denson wrote:
		Thanks Sandy. I'll use my grinder for drip only. Is the
Virtuoso refurb (at the same price as the Maestro Plus) still the way to go,
or would I be better off with the new vs.. refurb unit.
				MikeSandy
		www.sandyandina.com

18) From: Nancy Crabtree
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Thank you!  So happy I found you!!
:-)
Nancy

19) From: jay hobaugh
So I have also been thinking maybe around x-mas = new grinder from santa.
  What is better at under 200. I had been looking at the nice price tag on a capresso infinity 140$.
  anyone else own one? does the grind deteriorate over time too? maybe I should get a pugueot hand grinder for 125$ or so?
   I am using a "fass" (zass) won on ebay right now. the grind is not completely uniform. the burrs are nicked looking at them from the top.
  I dont own an exresso machine and have no plans to buy one any time within the next 2 yrs or so.
  Steve
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20) From: Les
Just bite the bullet and spend the extra $85.00 and get a Rancilio
Rocky.  It will last the rest of your life and you can replace the
burrs easily.
Les
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21) From: David B. Westebbe
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I disliked their Customer Servicing, but Mr. Kyle Anderson, Baratza
President, has completely changed my opinion. Anderson wouldn't leave me
hanging. 
 Kyle ia a good guy.  I met him once at an SCAA coctail party. 

22) From: Mike Chester
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Nancy (or any interested person),
I just upgraded my Gaggia MDF grinder to a Mazzer and would like to sell =
the Gaggia.  I bought it new last November and it has ground less than =
10 lbs. of beans.  It is black and it does have a cosmetic crack in the =
back of the case.  This usually faces the wall and cannot be seen.  It =
has no effect on the operation of the grinder.  I am offering it at $125 =
OBO.  I have the original package and instruction pack that I will =
include.  Contact me off list if interested.  
Mike Chester
  From: Nancy Crabtree 
          To: homeroast 
          Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:25 PM
          Subject: +my coffee grinder died!
          Hello, I am new to this group.  I am in love with my freshly =
roasted coffee!!  I have enjoyed reading your emails.  My coffee grinder =
died tonight.  I wanted to know if any of you had any recommendations.  =
I want one just to use at home -  under $200.00 if possible. 
          Thanks so much,
          Nancy
          my email is 
          ncrabtree

23) From: Brett Mason
Yep - Rocky does my coffee.  I also have a 1950's Cory electric mill, and
two Zassenhaus grinders....
But Rocky is the best all around for under $300...
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Cheers,
Brett

24) From: Barry Luterman
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Nancy are you using it for espresso?Do you intend getting into espresso =
someday? Can't give advice without knowing

25) From: Barry Luterman
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Most grinders under 200 will do a fine job for you and will last a long =
time. Burr replacement will probably not be an issue if you are not =
grinding espresso. Also not grinding espresso the grounds do not have to =
be very uniform to avoid clumping and static. I bought my daughter and =
my sister Solis Maestro and they are both very pleased with their =
coffee. They both told me it made a terrific improvement.http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.electricmills.shtml


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