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Topic: rocky - doser or not (12 msgs / 349 lines)
1) From: Nancy Crabtree
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Hey guys....I **think** I am going to get the Rocky grinder - you all =
have been so helpful.  Now my next question - doser or not?  
I know I know - I promise not to keep bugging you all - decisions =
decisions.  I am not an expresso person - just good coffee!
Thanks again,
Nancy

2) From: rwh
I ended up going with the doser-less Rocky last March and I've been
happy with it. I usually don't make more than a double shot at a time so
my main concern was ground coffee going stale in the doser.
So far static hasn't been an issue, but then I haven't owned it through
a cold dry winter yet.
--rick
Nancy Crabtree wrote:
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3) From: jim gundlach
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I share this exact opinion.  I would not trade my Mazzer Major for  
the doserless Rocky I gave the kids but I really want to remove the  
the Major's doser.  So many projects and so little time.
       Pecan Jim
On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Barry Luterman wrote:
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I share this exact opinion.  I =
would not trade my Mazzer Major for the doserless Rocky I gave the kids =
but I really want to remove the the Major's doser.  So many projects =
and so little time.      Pecan Jim
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2006, at 9:13 PM, Barry Luterman wrote:
Doserless. I had a Rocky = dosserless it was great. Moved up to a Mazzer love it but hate the = doser. Also it's cheaper not to have the doser. I drink mostly = espressos and still wish I was doserless.

4) From: miKe mcKoffee
I'm seemingly on the minority side. Been using a Rocky with grinds dispenser
(aka doser) for almost 5 years, grinding for all duties, always only adding
beans to hopper for only grinding for that single brewing whatever it may
be, be it single shot or press or whatever. I've also used Rocky doserless,
and Mazzers of ever configuration except the new Mini-E doserless spout (and
have a Mazzer SJ currently with doser removed and a rigged spout).
I much prefer Rocky with a grinds dispenser for a number of reasons. Using
the doser as a grinds dispenser is much clean and much less wasteful of
grinds. I dispense into a small SS canister which fits perfectly under the
doser. http://home.comcast.net/~mdmint/coffee/Rockycanister.htm)Cannister
holds enough grinds dispensed for any brewing method. With the simple doser
blade mod get a very clean sweep. Chute grinds hang brushed out with flux
brush every grinding. Chute much more accessible for brushing with doser
than with the doserless snout. Click-clack or other hopper blower method
helps clear the chute hang but usually is not 100% effective plus if a
doserless it's blowing the hung grinds out the snout not into the PF but
more down all over and wasted, and still may take brushing to get it all.)
Regardless will need to brush out the upper burr area to get the bit of
grinds that always hang there whether doser or doserless. (finger guard
removed years ago obvously) When pulling a serious of back to back shots I
level the PF back into the doser rather than it being wasted. Like last
night after dinner when I pulled a dozen back to back Panama Gesha double
shot Americanos to go with Alchemist and Nancy's combined way over the top
decadent dessert of Alchemist's double layer flourless torte topped with
Nancy's home made homeroast coffee icecream with ground chocolate & almonds.
(Flourless torte had bottom layer straight home roast cacao chocolate, top
layer shots of Brazil Yellow Bourbon added for Mocha torte). Using the doser
as a grinds dispenser is a bit more time consuming ritual than doserless but
for virtually zero waste and zero mess works fantastically IMO.
If you're the least bit anal and hate homeroast coffee waste and/or a neat
freak, I highly suggest to go grinds dispenser aka doser and use it as a
grinds dispenser. Dosers actually used for dosing only apply with a doser
full of grinds as in high volume production setting not home use.
Started today with a wake-up Panama Gesha Americano, while typing just
finishing day's second cup - a Horse 30 cappuccino. Made Debi's a peachy DP
Yirg' for her Americano (she loves that stuff), her cap' also blueberry
horsey cap'. This homeroasting and all it's variety sure is tough:-)
(Shots pulled after Bricoletta Cafiza backflushed for the 3rd time in 4
days!) Wednesday was normal ~weekly detergent backflush basket/PF soak etc,
then again Saturday morning before the Espresso Jam, and of course again
this morning after the Jam! Rocky & SJ also quick through the grinder Grindz
cleaned. (Using the bottle of Grindz I got for free to do a comparison write
up with Minute Rice, will use it 'til gone then back to buying Minute Rice,
don't want to waste steel cut Oatmeal for grinder cleaning:-)
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Nancy Crabtree
	Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 7:02 PM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: +rocky - doser or not
	
	Hey guys....I **think** I am going to get the Rocky grinder - you
all have been so helpful.  Now my next question - doser or not?  
	I know I know - I promise not to keep bugging you all - decisions
decisions.  I am not an expresso person - just good coffee!
	Thanks again,
	Nancy

5) From: Angelo
I have the Rocky doserless and am very happy with it. I grind into a 
container, so no grinds are lost (I use the Eggstractor bellows to 
get those last grinds out of the chute and into the container). I 
then transfer into the PF. Works like a charm...
A+

6) From: miKe mcKoffee
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Wish you could have come too. No Brewtus or any dual boiler in attendance.
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Oh, I agree the Mazzer doser really sucks, worse than Rocky's! Which is I
took the doser off my Super Jolly. But as far as those negatives of grinds
left in and or mixed grinds and or stale grinds go, I guarantee any residual
grinds in my Rocky grinds path and dispenser aka doser could be measured in
a tenth of a gram at most, at most. And much cleaner usage than any
doserless I've ever seen or used. (Versalab could would be a likely major
exception) Sure transfering from SS cannister to PF has potential "to miss"
and make a mess, but I simply don't and find it's very beneficial aiding
excellent controlled distribution. It does require more cleaning each use,
via few seconds with flux brush.
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Good luck in the tournament!
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.

7) From: Larry Dorman
I went doserless and am quite happy with it... I frequently adjust my
grind for press / drip / espresso and really believe the doser would
get in the way.
The othe thing I recommend is to go to the hardware store and purchase
a replacement switch for the momentary swtich on the front... I did
this recently and love it.  It was also pretty easy to do and required
no disassembly to complete.
LarryD
On 9/2/06, Nancy Crabtree  wrote:
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8) From: Brett Mason
which switch did you go with?  I need to do the same....
On 9/8/06, Larry Dorman  wrote:
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Cheers,
Brett

9) From: Larry Dorman
I'd have to pull it to see... I just took the old one with me to the
hardware store and looked at their offerings until I found one that
had the same size connectors and same overall size...  the trick is
getting one that isn't too tall (tall as oriented in grinder)... the
original has a short profile and there isn't any adjusting the
openining easily.
I grind coffee into small mason jars and take it to work regularly...
it's nice to be able to turn the grinder on and let it do its thing
while I do other stuff.  It's also much easier to adjust the grind
when you get rid of the need for a third hand...
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10) From: Barry Luterman
Got my original part fromhttp://espressoparts.com/

11) From: Barry Luterman
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Doserless. I had a Rocky dosserless it was great. Moved up to a Mazzer =
love it but hate the doser. Also it's cheaper not to have the doser. I =
drink mostly espressos and still wish I was doserless.

12) From: Barry Luterman
Sure wish I could have been there. Perhaps in June. Have to see my new 
Granddaughter. Were there any Brewtus at the gathering?
As far as the doser is concerned. I usually agree with you. But not this 
time. I find the doser on The Mazzer to throw grinds to the right and left 
of the PF. Don't like to use a pot to catch the grinds in and then have to 
transfer to the PF. Takes too much time and has the potential for even more 
spilled grinds. The doser also requires more cleaning and is much more of a 
source for, stale grounds, mixed sized grounds and blends I didn't intend. 
Like Pecan Jim I am getting around to removing mine.Playing in a poker 
tournament tonight. If I win will probably buy the conversion kit. With all 
the talk about grinders lately I realized I hadn't cleaned mine in quite a 
while. What a difference a little Minute Rice makes. Have to mark it on my 
calendar when to clean and not leave it till I'm reminded. Same goes for 
going doserless. Definitely next project after the tournament or next win 
over $100.


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