<Snip> You're welcome. Oh I forgot to mention keeping spare espresso machine grouphead gaskets vac bag sealed so they won't dry out waiting to be used! FoodSaver uses only limited to the imagination. (Earlier this evening un-vag bag sealed a partial can of refridgerated coconut milk to use in the ginger wasabi teriyaki marinade for the previoualy FoodSaver vac bag frozen albacore I'll be mequite grillin' in a few minutes:-) Yes, I could be considered either a walking (typing) FoodSaver commercial or is that (unpaid) shill... Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.