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Topic: first impressions or trouble with the AP (13 msgs / 656 lines)
1) From: Claus Thøgersen
Hi,
Last week I wrote about my thinking to buy or not to buy an Aeropress. Well 
I did buy it, and received it today, and I have made my first cup of coffee 
with the AP.
My usual mug I use when drinking coffee is about 8 ounces.
My first disappointment with the AP is to find that there are no way that I 
can feel the marks made on the plastic of the AP to guide the  user when 
filling water into the AP.
The second thing I noticed is that it seems that even if I place markers on 
the outside of the AP the pplastic does so good a job of insolating  from 
the heat of the water that this will not be of any use.
So first atempt is to fill my keddle with the water that fits in my mug por 
what seems like half the water in the AP follow the directions and put the 
rest of the water from my keddle in the mug.
Result not good coffee at all!
I use close to  20 gram of coffee for the 8 ounce mug.
I have saved the inverted instructions and I will maybe try this method, but 
I would like ideas about how to make this brew, better? The  easiest thing 
to do would be to avoid adding water to the brew, with my current 
measurements it seems as if there is a high risc of deluding the cup too 
much!
I use the recommended grind somewhere between drip and espresso.
Claus

2) From: Sandy Andina
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Claus,
  I am puzzled. Doesn't your Aeropress  have the blue ovals for 1, 2  
or 3 cups/shots? Mine has them printed on both the outer cylinder and  
the piston.  For a 6-oz cup of coffee I fill the piston up to the 1  
shot oval, pour over the grounds, press the coffee and then top up  
with water; for an 8-12 oz. mug I fill between the middle and the top  
of the 2-shot oval and top up after pressing; for a 16-oz. mug or 2  
6-8 oz cups, I use the 3-shot oval.
Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
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Claus, 
 I am =
puzzled. Doesn't your Aeropress  have the blue ovals for 1, 2 or 3 =
cups/shots? Mine has them printed on both the outer cylinder and the =
piston.  For a 6-oz cup of coffee I fill the piston up to the 1 shot =
oval, pour over the grounds, press the coffee and then top up with =
water; for an 8-12 oz. mug I fill between the middle and the top of the =
2-shot oval and top up after pressing; for a 16-oz. mug or 2 6-8 oz =
cups, I use the 3-shot oval.
  
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3) From: Claus Thøgersen
Hi Sandy,
I am sure the marks are there, but because I am blind I cannot see them. It 
may be an idea to mark them with something i can feel, but as explained I am 
not really sure it will work as long as i use the AP as a one cup brewer.
I think the way of knowing wwich amount of water corresponds to how much 
coffee will work better.
Claus
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Fra: "Sandy Andina" 
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Sendt: 19. september 2006 01:26
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4) From: Sandy Andina
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Claus,
	Perhaps you can have someone cut notches into the marks.  I =
don't  
know how to figure out how to measure the water for dilution,  
however. I will experiment and see perhaps if the entire cylinder  
holds enough water to add to the concentrate.
On Sep 18, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Claus Thøgersen wrote:
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Claus, 	Perhaps =
you can have someone cut notches into the marks.  I don't know how to =
figure out how to measure the water for dilution, however. I will =
experiment and see perhaps if the entire cylinder holds enough water to =
add to the concentrate. 
On Sep 18, 2006, at 6:37 PM, =
Claus Thøgersen wrote:
Hi Sandy, I am sure the marks are there, = but because I am blind I cannot see them. It may be an idea to mark them = with something i can feel, but as explained I am not really sure it will = work as long as i use the AP as a one cup brewer.I think the way of knowing wwich amount of water = corresponds to how much coffee will work better. ----- Oprindelig meddelelse ----- Fra: "Sandy = Andina" <sandraandina>Til: <homeroast= s.com>Sendt: 19. september 2006 = 01:26Emne: Re: +first impressions or = trouble with the AP = Claus, I am = puzzled. Doesn't your Aeropress  = have the blue ovals for 1, 2or 3 = cups/shots? Mine has them printed on both the outer cylinder = andthe piston.  For a 6-oz cup of coffee I = fill the piston up to the 1shot oval, = pour over the grounds, press the coffee and then top upwith water; for an 8-12 oz. mug I fill between the = middle and the topof the 2-shot oval and top = up after pressing; for a 16-oz. mug or 26-8 oz = cups, I use the 3-shot oval.www.sandyandina.com homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = = = --Apple-Mail-16--72344283--

5) From: Dennis & Marjorie True
Claus,
    I have had email contact with the inventor of the Aeropress I will 
send you his email off list Alan would love to talk to you I'll bet he 
will offer some help on how to make your AP work for you and who knows 
maybe he will be able to modify the Aeropress in the future to include 
some kind of raised marks for just that purpose.
Dennis
Claus Thøgersen wrote:
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6) From: Sean Cary
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Could you make a raised area using epoxy?  
 
I am not sure I would make cuts/notches into the body – but most epoxy =
can
handle the temp that we brew at, and would be tactile enough for you to
feel.
 
Sean 
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Sandy Andina
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:51 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +first impressions or trouble with the AP
 
Claus, 
            Perhaps you can have someone cut notches into the marks.  I
don't know how to figure out how to measure the water for dilution, =
however.
I will experiment and see perhaps if the entire cylinder holds enough =
water
to add to the concentrate. 
On Sep 18, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Claus Thøgersen wrote:
Hi Sandy,
 
I am sure the marks are there, but because I am blind I cannot see them. =
It
may be an idea to mark them with something i can feel, but as explained =
I am
not really sure it will work as long as i use the AP as a one cup =
brewer.
I think the way of knowing wwich amount of water corresponds to how much
coffee will work better.
 
Claus
 
----- Oprindelig meddelelse ----- Fra: "Sandy Andina" =
Til: 
Sendt: 19. september 2006 01:26
Emne: Re: +first impressions or trouble with the AP
 
 
Claus,
 I am puzzled. Doesn't your Aeropress  have the blue ovals for 1, 2
or 3 cups/shots? Mine has them printed on both the outer cylinder and
the piston.  For a 6-oz cup of coffee I fill the piston up to the 1
shot oval, pour over the grounds, press the coffee and then top up
with water; for an 8-12 oz. mug I fill between the middle and the top
of the 2-shot oval and top up after pressing; for a 16-oz. mug or 2
6-8 oz cups, I use the 3-shot oval.
Sandy
www.sandyandina.comSandy
www.sandyandina.com
 

7) From: Gary Bennett
On 9/19/06, Sandy Andina <> wrote:
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Hi Sandy,
Do you use 1 scoop for the 1 shot, 2 scoops for the 2 shots, etc? How
much extra water are you adding? It sounds like you'd be doubling the
volume of liquid?
I usually drink from something that holds around 8 oz and add roughly
80% more water, but it seems easy for me to over-dilute the brew.
Regards, Gary

8) From: Dennis & Marjorie True
Claus,
    I just got an email back from Alan I am posting it below....Please 
write to him if you have any more questions and let him know how this 
method worked.
Dennis
Alan wrote:
Hi Dennis,
I'm replying to you because I have not heard from Claus.
I would be happy to make a custom AeroPress with raised
markings for Claus for free.  But I don't think it would be
much help because he couldn't see the water level.   So
here's my suggestion for a 8 to 10 oz mug of American brew.
 You are welcome to post this or send it to him privately.
1.  With your finger in the plunger up to the large
knuckle, fill it with COLD tap water until the level
reaches your fingertip.   That's about 5 oz.
2.  Nuke the plunger of water in the microwave for one
minute, which will heat the water to about the ideal brew
temp.  (After you've done this a few times, you may want to
experiment with different heating times.
3.  While the micro is cooking put two of our (large)
scoops of coffee into the chamber.
4.  Add the hot water (carefully) to the chamber, stir for
about ten seconds and press.
At this point you have about four ounces of double-strength
American brew.  (One ounce remained in the damp puck).   A
lot of people like to drink it this way, but if you want to
dilute it, proceed as follows.
5.  Put the same amount of water in the plunger again and
nuke it this time for about 30 seconds.  Then add that to
your mug of brew.
I hope this helps.   Let me know how it went.
Sincerely,
Alan Adler
alan

9) From: Sandy Andina
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I use 2 scoops for the 1 (which is usually diluted, if at all, to  
Americano strength) and the 2.  I use 3 for the 3 if I'm brewing two  
regular or one large (pint) mug.  I do grind a tad finer--between  
paper drip and espresso; and I measure the beans before grinding.  I  
fill the piston to the appropriate level, using the hot water tap of  
my espresso machine (or Bodum mini-Ibis if traveling), pour over the  
grounds, stir, press, and then top up with more hot water.
On Sep 18, 2006, at 8:28 PM, Gary Bennett wrote:
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Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
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I use 2 scoops for the 1 (which =
is usually diluted, if at all, to Americano strength) and the 2.  I =
use 3 for the 3 if I'm brewing two regular or one large (pint) mug.  I =
do grind a tad finer--between paper drip and espresso; and I measure the =
beans before grinding.  I fill the piston to the appropriate level, =
using the hot water tap of my espresso machine (or Bodum mini-Ibis if =
traveling), pour over the grounds, stir, press, and then top up with =
more hot water.
On Sep 18, 2006, at 8:28 PM, Gary Bennett =
wrote:
On 9/19/06, Sandy Andina = <> wrote:  I am puzzled. Doesn't your = Aeropress  have the blue = ovals for 1, 2 or 3cups/shots? Mine has them = printed on both the outer cylinder and the piston. For = a 6-oz cup of coffee I fill the piston up to the 1 shot oval, pour = overthe grounds, press the coffee = and then top up with water; for an 8-12 oz.mug I = fill between the middle and the top of the 2-shot oval and top = upafter pressing; for a 16-oz. mug or 2 6-8 oz = cups, I use the 3-shot oval. Sandywww.sandyandina.com Hi = Sandy, Do you use 1 scoop for the 1 shot, 2 scoops for the = 2 shots, etc? Howmuch extra water are you adding? = It sounds like you'd be doubling thevolume of = liquid? I usually drink from something that holds around 8 = oz and add roughly80% more water, but it = seems easy for me to over-dilute the brew. Regards, = Garyhomeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = = --Apple-Mail-18--63173390--

10) From: Gary Bennett
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OK, thanks Sandy. I'll try a finer grind and see how that goes.
Regards, Gary

11) From: Scott Marquardt
Alan Adler's advice is darned good -- a sane method if you're blind. But I'=
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suggest using as much water as possible in the press -- an almost full
column. Do this consistent with an effort to avoid a mess and you'll get a
good cup that needs little additional hot water. If you use a full column
and less grind than advised, you'll have a small cup that's just about
perfect concentration without needing any further water at all.
- Scott
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12) From: Jon Rosen
One of the issues that Claus will probably have, even with notches or  =
bumps, is that the AP's polycarbonate is fairly heat resistant. Claus  =
won't be able to tell when the water level has reached the proper  
level. You could feel the bumps, but not the heat. Claus, there are  
probably all sorts of electromechanical solutions you could use that  
would act as a water level alarm, but I have a very simple idea  
(which I just tested) that may work for you.
As you fill the plunger or the tube with water, the pitch changes  
when you tap on it with the AP stirrer, or spoon, or something else.  
I think that with a little practice, you would be able to tell when  
the water is at the correct level.
I just bought an AeroPress a couple of days ago. Incidentally, when  
wrote to AP with a question, Alan Adler, the AP's inventor, called me  =
personally to discuss the AP with me. It goes without saying that the  =
President of Krups isn't likely to be doing customer service work.  
Krups may be a bigger company, but everyone is busy, and I really  
appreciated that level of support. By the way, for the sake of  
accuracy, I own no Krups coffee products for their president to call  
me about.
I am still trying to find the AP's sweet spot. I do think that their  
water temperature recommendation of 165-175 degrees is a good one.  
But, I'm still experimenting with grind and time in the tube. I'd be  
interested in hearing the settings that other people have found  
successful.
Jon
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13) From: Jon Rosen
One of the issues that Claus will probably have, even with notches or  
bumps, is that the AP's polycarbonate is fairly heat resistant. Claus  
won't be able to tell when the water level has reached the proper  
level. You could feel the bumps, but not the heat. Claus, there are  
probably all sorts of electromechanical solutions you could use that  
would act as a water level alarm, but I have a very simple idea  
(which I just tested) that may work for you.
As you fill the plunger or the tube with water, the pitch changes  
when you tap on it with the AP stirrer, or spoon, or something else.  
I think that with a little practice, you would be able to tell when  
the water is at the correct level.
I just bought an AeroPress a couple of days ago. Incidentally, when  
wrote to AP with a question, Alan Adler, the AP's inventor, called me  
personally to discuss the AP with me. It goes without saying that the  
President of Krups isn't likely to be doing customer service work.  
Krups may be a bigger company, but everyone is busy, and I really  
appreciated that level of support. By the way, for the sake of  
accuracy, I own no Krups coffee products for their president to call  
me about.
I am still trying to find the AP's sweet spot. I do think that their  
water temperature recommendation of 165-175 degrees is a good one.  
But, I'm still experimenting with grind and time in the tube. I'd be  
interested in hearing the settings that other people have found  
successful.
Jon


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