Rice: great idea; thank you!
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Minute Rice
Regular rice Brett On 10/7/06, Barry Luterman wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Use minute rice it's more absorbent and is easier on your burrs
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. 50/50 mix of minute and regular rice should be the ticket then! Dennis, FC1(SW) Dennis W. True CS-5 DSPO CS Dept CC CS Dept TRANO Duty Sec 1 CS E6 S/L CS Dept Mentorship Coordinator DCTT Repair locker 1F "Life Liberty and the pursuit of all who threaten it..."
Hey, All I have at home is brown rice. Wait; I have regular brown and= brown basmatti... what do you think? MS
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Barry said MINUTE RICE for a reason, and gave the reason. Yeah, I don't cook with it either but have it on hand for one and only one reason, quick grinder cleaning. I would not use non-par cooked long grain, short grain, basmati, jasmine or any other rice. OTH some people use oatmeal (instead of Minute Rice), preferably before cooking it. miKe From: homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of MS Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 4:38 PM Hey, All I have at home is brown rice. Wait; I have regular brown and brown basmatti... what do you think? MS
it's going to come out brown..... White rice shows the dark flecks, kid of helpful.... On the other hand, this crud you throw away will be more healthy if you use brown rice... Brett On 10/7/06, MS wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
OK, I'll bite... IMHO, white rice seems to provide the same performance as minute rice for cleaning grinders, and has worked great on my Zass and Tross grinders for several years... Also, in case it comes up, I don't believe reular white rice will harm the burrs, and does get the job done.... There, a recommendation and the reason why I continue to use it.... Brett On 10/7/06, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
I blow out most of the particulate crap first using a can of compressed air, like I use for cleaning out my computer case. vicki
On Oct 7, 2006, at 7:52 pm, Brett Mason wrote: <Snip>http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/private/homeroast/2006-September/ 121552.html John Blumel
<Snip> Just in case someone had problems accessing the archives John was saying he said last month (and it had been said many times before over the years): <Snip> John Blumel homeroast Fri Sep 1 21:20:01 2006 It doesn't have to be harder than hardened cutting steel to dull the burrs. Roasted coffee isn't harder than the burrs, but grinding it dulls them over time. The greater the average hardness of the substances you grind, the faster your burrs will dull. Also, in a grinder, such as the Solis Maestro, where the burr mounts are not extremely sturdy, grinding substances of a hardness beyond the design parameters of the grinder could conceivably cause damage. Whether this might be an issue with sturdier grinders, such as the Mazzer Mini, is unknown to me but certainly seems worthy of consideration. John Blumel <Snip>
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So the reason we use one type of rice over another is presumably because the hardness of the other rice is going to dull / wear out / damage ... the burrs in our grinder. I ask this, are the burrs/ grinder etc THAT sensitive and fragile that one run through with 'the other' rice is going to permanently damage them.? Granted I can see running an entire bag of rice through one might do something but an ounce or so? or are we counting angstroms of wear on the burrs so that we don't add up to a micrometer too quickly now. Aaron
Sharp is sharp, dull is dull, oh never mind why try to explain. miKe <Snip>
Technically running the grinder with air in it and nothign else will still dull the burrs because of air resistance.... Brett On 10/7/06, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
To summarize so far the advantages put forth for using Minute Rice: 1) It is hard and dry enough to mechanically clean the burrs. 2) It is soft enough to not take life off the burrs. 3) It is soft enough to not damage the grinder, including the mechanisms surrounding the burrs. 4) It is absorbent enough to soak up the coffee oils that have built up on the burrs. These all make sense to me.. Do I know for a fact that regular rice would damage the grinder? No. Is it conceivable? Yeah.. If nothing else, in a cheaper grinder you might burn out the electric motor grinding something harder than what it is intended to grind. To me it just seems that Minute Rice is the safer bet. Now if I could only find some. I wonder if Uncle Ben's Instant is ok. I seem to remember a thread long ago stating that people weren't really sure it was. Can't believe Safeway doesn't have Minute Rice (then again... I wouldn't eat it!) -- Steven Hay hay.steve -AT- gmail.com Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."
<Snip> I wouldn't eat Uncle Ben's Instant rice either but would have no qualms using it instead of Minute Rice for grinder duties. Different marketing brand name for the same par-cooked stuff. Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Rice-A-Roni The flavoring packet is optional, and may leave your coffee tasting like garlic chicken for a while... -Jeff On Oct 7, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Brett Mason wrote: <Snip>
Not the same! Uncle Ben's is parboiled. Partially cooked then dried so it'll cook faster for you. Minute rice is precooked to a gruel, overcooked, then this gruel is extruded into rices-like pieces & dried. It cookes very quickly, in a minute. Look at the so-called grains carefully, they don't even look like real grains of rice anymore. On 10/8/06, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> -- "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." - Aldous Huxley
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. You're right but both will clean your grinder.White rice will work too but it won't clean up the old oils residue quite as fast. Michael Wascher wrote: <Snip>
I would suggest that white rice will be more abrasive, and clean up the oils and residue quicker... Brett On 10/8/06, George Birchard wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com