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Topic: Rice to clean grinder (22 msgs / 420 lines)
1) From: MS
Rice: great idea; thank you!

2) From: Barry Luterman
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Minute Rice

3) From: Brett Mason
Regular rice
On 10/7/06, Barry Luterman  wrote:

4) From: Barry Luterman
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Use minute rice it's more absorbent and is easier on your burrs

5) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
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50/50 mix of minute and regular rice should be the ticket then!
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6) From: MS
All I have at home is brown rice.  Wait; I have regular brown and=
 brown basmatti... what do you think?

7) From: miKe mcKoffee
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Barry said MINUTE RICE for a reason, and gave the reason. Yeah, I don't cook
with it either but have it on hand for one and only one reason, quick
grinder cleaning. I would not use non-par cooked long grain, short grain,
basmati, jasmine or any other rice. 
OTH some people use oatmeal (instead of Minute Rice), preferably before
cooking it.
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All I have at home is brown rice.  Wait; I have regular brown and brown
basmatti... what do you think?

8) From: Brett Mason
it's going to come out brown.....
White rice shows the dark flecks, kid of helpful....
On the other hand, this crud you throw away will be more healthy if you use
brown rice...
On 10/7/06, MS  wrote:

9) From: Brett Mason
OK, I'll bite...
IMHO, white rice seems to provide the same performance as minute rice for
cleaning grinders, and has worked great on my Zass and Tross grinders for
several years...
Also, in case it comes up, I don't believe reular white rice will harm the
burrs, and does get the job done....
There, a recommendation and the reason why I continue to use it....
On 10/7/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:

10) From: Vicki Smith
I blow out most of the particulate crap first using a can of compressed 
air, like I use for cleaning out my computer case.

11) From: John Blumel
On Oct 7, 2006, at 7:52 pm, Brett Mason wrote:
John Blumel

12) From: miKe mcKoffee
Just in case someone had problems accessing the archives John was saying he
said last month (and it had been said many times before over the years):
John Blumel homeroast 
Fri Sep 1 21:20:01 2006 
It doesn't have to be harder than hardened cutting steel to dull the  
burrs. Roasted coffee isn't harder than the burrs, but grinding it  
dulls them over time. The greater the average hardness of the  
substances you grind, the faster your burrs will dull. Also, in a  
grinder, such as the Solis Maestro, where the burr mounts are not  
extremely sturdy, grinding substances of a hardness beyond the design  
parameters of the grinder could conceivably cause damage. Whether  
this might be an issue with sturdier grinders, such as the Mazzer  
Mini, is unknown to me but certainly seems worthy of consideration.
John Blumel

13) From: Barry Luterman
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14) From: Aaron
So the reason we use one type of rice over another is presumably because 
the hardness of the other rice is going to dull / wear out / damage ... 
the burrs in our grinder.
I ask this,  are the burrs/ grinder etc THAT sensitive and fragile that 
one run through with 'the other' rice is going to permanently damage them.?
Granted I can see running an entire bag of rice through one might do 
something but an ounce or so?
or are we counting angstroms of wear on the burrs so that we don't add 
up to a micrometer too quickly now.

15) From: miKe mcKoffee
Sharp is sharp, dull is dull, oh never mind why try to explain. 

16) From: Brett Mason
Technically running the grinder with air in it and nothign else will still
dull the burrs because of air resistance....
On 10/7/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:

17) From: Steve Hay
To summarize so far the advantages put forth for using Minute Rice:
1) It is hard and dry enough to mechanically clean the burrs.
2) It is soft enough to not take life off the burrs.
3) It is soft enough to not damage the grinder, including the
mechanisms surrounding the burrs.
4) It is absorbent enough to soak up the coffee oils that have built
up on the burrs.
These all make sense to me..  Do I know for a fact that regular rice
would damage the grinder?  No.  Is it conceivable?  Yeah..  If nothing
else, in a cheaper grinder you might burn out the electric motor
grinding something harder than what it is intended to grind.
To me it just seems that Minute Rice is the safer bet.  Now if I could
only find some.  I wonder if Uncle Ben's Instant is ok.  I seem to
remember a thread long ago stating that people weren't really sure it
was.  Can't believe Safeway doesn't have Minute Rice (then again... I
wouldn't eat it!)
Steven Hay
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18) From: miKe mcKoffee
I wouldn't eat Uncle Ben's Instant rice either but would have no qualms
using it instead of Minute Rice for grinder duties. Different marketing
brand name for the same par-cooked stuff.
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19) From: Jeff Sheltren
The flavoring packet is optional, and may leave your coffee tasting  
like garlic chicken for a while...
On Oct 7, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Brett Mason wrote:

20) From: Michael Wascher
Not the same!
Uncle Ben's is parboiled. Partially cooked then dried so it'll cook faster
for you.
Minute rice is precooked to a gruel, overcooked, then this gruel is extruded
into rices-like pieces & dried. It cookes very quickly, in a minute. Look at
the so-called grains carefully, they don't even look like real grains of
rice anymore.
On 10/8/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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21) From: George Birchard
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You're right but both will clean your grinder.White rice will work too 
but it won't clean up the old oils residue quite as fast.
Michael Wascher wrote:

22) From: Brett Mason
I would suggest that white rice will be more abrasive, and clean up the oils
and residue quicker...
On 10/8/06, George Birchard  wrote:

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