I am wondering if small lots of coffee are going to be the wave of the future. I was sent 2 pounds of roasted coffee that were simply stunning! Both of these coffees are from Ethiopia and the particular roaster bought it all directly from the farms. One was a coop deal like Tom has been doing, and the other wasn't clear. Both of these coffees were roasted to perfection too. I am coming to the opinion that there is a lot of outstanding coffee out there for those willing to look. Can any of you keep up with Tom? I know I can't. I am thinking about a new game plan so I don't swell the stash again! The Gesha I roasted from last year this week was outstanding, but I would have been very upset if I had let it go baggy on me! I find it amazing that Tom want to help improve the Juan Francisco project! I found it to be a very nice cup this year. One final thought. I wonder how much home roasting has pushed the commercial roasters to a new level of excellence? It seems to me that there are many more fine commercial roasters now than 5 years ago. My new motto, don't bash them, educate them! Les
Les, Roughly how much shelf-life does raw coffee have before it goes "baggy"? I just received official permission from my wife to cancel Gevalia and build a stash no larger than 15 lbs (not much but what are you are ya gonna do). I'm usually roasting 125g twice a week. I tend to agree with the point you make about home roasting increasing number of specialty roasters. People are slowly starting to realize that coffee can be as complex as wine. For example, when I was in school at Virginia Tech a popular night spot was the on campus coffee house, Deet's Place. They roasted their beans in shop for the entire campus and had varietals from the world over. They roasted no more frequently than twice a week when I was on campus. I spoke to a friend of mine in NC last night (while I was roasting a batch of Timor FTO Peaberry from SM) and found that he also roasts his own (he was having problems roasting in his electric toaster, I offered him my iRoast1 when I upgrade to a Gene Cafe)! My in-laws sampled a roast of mine (Ethiopian Yirg) and have asked for more. The point being, the more people who demand quality coffee, the more the market will be forced to respond. This can be seen in Mobil changing the coffee they offer (at least in NY) to "premium" Bengal Traders, Mickey D's offering "premium" coffee now, and others will be forced to follow suit... --Kevin DM: No, your fighter doesn't gain bonuses from drinking coffee.
Coffee is the second most valued commodity; first is oil. I seriously doubt that homeroasters are even a blip on a radar of that scale. On 10/11/06, Les wrote: <Snip>
Order 15 pounds at the same frequency the Gevalia arrived ... "But Honey ... I thought you meant ..." Just trying to help! Eddie On 10/11/06, STP wrote: <Snip>
This statement has been repeated, apparently erroneously, in various places. One of them was the video, "Black Gold". Go to Google Groups and lookup a message by Danny O'Keefe dated 23 September 2004, subject heading is "Coffee as World Commodity". According to that article, in 2002 world coffee exports were valued at US$6.5 billion. Commodities where the world trade amounts were higher were wheat (15.5), sugar(10.0), rice(6.8), maize(9.8), tobacco(20.6), milk(12.4), cheese(10.9), and wine(14.2). I think, for the sake of our credibility in claims about coffee, we should spread the word. Dave S. Wesley Simon wrote: <Snip>
Guess it depends on the information source. Wikipedia also says coffee ranks secondhttp://www.fairtrade.org.uk/pr040502.htmExcerpt from Sept '05 2nd World Coffee Conference Session II:">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_coffee#_note-0A 2002 Fairtrade report on the coffee crisis estimated $60 billion. http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/pr040502.htmExcerpt from Sept '05 2nd World Coffee Conference Session II: "It is a well known fact that coffee is the second most traded commodity after crude oil and all along its market has been subject to considerable intervention."http://www.common-fund.org/download/content/CoffeeConference.pdf2004 Commodity Fundamentals Article: "Coffee is one of the world's most important cash commodities and is second in value only to crude oil."http://www2.barchart.com/comfund/coffee.aspEtc. etc. etc. Whether plummeting commodity coffee prices have actually dropped coffee below number 2 I don't have a clue. miKe <Snip>
STP wrote: <Snip> 15 lbs? Is that enough to qualify for a stash? Sounds like an order to me. :-) -- tom_p pfau --http://nbpfaus.net/~pfau/
Got to be apples vs oranges. I just went to the International Coffee Organization http://www.ico.org/trade_statistics.aspwhere I learned that in the year Sept 05 - Aug 06 there was a total of 86 202 693 bags of coffee exported from all countries. Each bag weighs 60 Kg, and a kilogram is roughly 2.2 lbs, so we have a total export market of 11.4 billion pounds. At a producer price of $0.70 per pound average, it works out to US$ 7.9 billion. So, these other figures must be referring to some other way of pricing, such as retail, and some are just repeating what they heard somewhere. Dave S. miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip>
*Lies*, *damn lies and statistics*. - Mark Twain. Use of the terms exported, traded and valued all offer very different views of the same picture...or coffee bean. On 10/11/06, Maryann & Dave Schellenberg wrote: <Snip>
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. OH YEA that will get him in some serious HOT WATER!!!! He would have to forget Christmas presents.... Dennis , FC1(SW) Dennis W. True CS-5 DSPO CS Dept CC CS Dept TRANO Duty Sec 1 CS E6 S/L CS Dept Mentorship Coordinator DCTT Repair locker 1F "Life Liberty and the pursuit of all who threaten it..." For Official Use only -- Privacy Act Protected Information contained (including attachments) in this correspondence may be subject to the Privacy Act of 1974 (5 U.S.C. 552a) and covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521. Personal information contained in this correspondence may be used only by authorized persons in the conduct of official business. Any unauthorized disclosure or misuse of personal information may result in criminal and/or civil penalties. If you are not the intended recipient of this correspondence please destroy all copies of this correspondence after notifying the sender of your receipt of it.
Well there you have it . . . Hot water - beans. All the ingredients. McSparky At 06:49 PM 10/11/2006 -0400, you wrote: <Snip> (including attachments) in this correspondence may be subject to the= Privacy Act of 1974 (5 U.S.C. 552a) and covered by the Electronic= Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521. Personal information= contained in this correspondence may be used only by authorized persons in= the conduct of official business. Any unauthorized disclosure or misuse of= personal information may result in criminal and/or civil penalties. If you= are not the intended recipient of this correspondence please destroy all= copies of this correspondence after notifying the sender of your receipt of= it. <Snip> [mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Eddie Dove <Snip> ... I thought you meant ..." <Snip> marias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast <Snip> unsvbscribes) go to= http://sweetmari=as.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings <Snip>
Well actually 12 is an order so to get 15 you will have to have 2 orders right? Order 24 and call it saving $$$$ Dennis FC1(SW) Dennis W. True CS-5 DSPO CS Dept CC CS Dept TRANO Duty Sec 1 CS E6 S/L CS Dept Mentorship Coordinator DCTT Repair locker 1F "Life Liberty and the pursuit of all who threaten it..."