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Topic: [SPAM] +Vac Pot Fragility (17 msgs / 354 lines)
1) From: Barry Luterman
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Got 18 mos out of my last one. At 45 apiece that works out to $2.5 a =
month, or .08 per day or .1 a cup.

2) From: Barry Luterman
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missed a decimal $0.01 per cup

3) From: Eddie Dove
Thanks, Barry ... I knew what you meant.  Is any one better than another?
On 10/26/06, Barry Luterman  wrote:

4) From: Barry Luterman
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I have had great coffee out of the cheapest the Bodum Santos. I use a =
Hario cloth filter in it. The plastic filter they send with it is very =
finicky and stalls a lot. The Hario filter is not glass and doesn't =
break. I let one go in the garbage disposal once. Not a pretty sight.

5) From: Les
My depression glass vac pot broke :>((.  Someone was kind enough to not use
it and sell it to me cheap.  I enjoyed 5 years of vac pot brewing from it!
The unique rippled glass was a pain to clean, but added to the brew
experience.  I have a number of antique vac pots.  Some I use only for
special events, others like the one above were used on a regular basis.  I
like using a Yama with a Cory Rod.  I have had a Yama implode on me!  It was
scary, and made a mess on the stove.  It is a fun way to brew and makes
excellent coffee.
On 10/26/06, Eddie Dove  wrote:

6) From: Eddie Dove
My wife recently discovered that she can transform regular teaspoons into
grapefruit spoons using the garbage disposal ... she been practicing and I
think she's got her technique honed.
On 10/26/06, Barry Luterman  wrote:

7) From: Michael Dhabolt
Drink espresso until coherent (for me that seems to be directly
related to my age - currently early afternoon).  Pretty soon, you'll
be firmly committed to the 'dark side'.  Store the super cool /
expensive / fragile Vac Pot high on a shelf, because you'll only use
it when company comes.  Great conversation starter, and great brewed
coffee.  Will last for years.
Mike (just plain)

8) From: Eddie Dove
Sorry to hear that, Les.
I run across (on the web) the Yama with Cory Rod quite a bit.  This seams to
be quite popular. My understanding is that the brighter coffees tend to
"sparkle" more with this method.  Would that be accurate?
On 10/26/06, Les < les.albjerg> wrote:

9) From: Eddie Dove
I resemble that!
On 10/26/06, Michael Dhabolt  wrote:

10) From: Derek Bradford
On 10/27/06, Barry Luterman  wrote:
I laughed a solid 2 minutes at the thought of that.  Nice.
-- http://www.novernae.comHome of the Wandering Sloth

11) From: Michael Guterman
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Barry Luterman wrote:
I use a Cory glass rod in my Bodum.  Makes good coffee.  I must admit 
that I usually use the Solis 5000 when feeling too lazy to do the 
espresso thing with the Isomac.

12) From: Barry Luterman
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I replaced  my TV with the Santos and found the coffee much improved. =
However, like the rest on the darkside I am essentially a shot and =
Americano man now. However, my wife likes brewed coffee in the morning =
and I join her before she goes to work. She goes off to work with a =
thermos full of Cappos. Then it's shots for me all day. I personally =
think for brewed coffee a vac pot is the way to go.

13) From: Aaron
I use the regular filter that came with my bodum santos and never had 
any problems with stalling.   Im thinking if you stall perhaps your seal 
is not as tight as it should be?
Try putting a very THIN coat of vaseline around the seal or veggy oil 
when putting it in to help seal the edges.  I know it works wonders on 
my still so don't see where it would not do the same here.  kind of the 
same principle.

14) From: Barry Luterman
Your talking to a guy who is technically challenged. I have an electrician 
come in to change my light bulbs. As a matter of fact I stand in awe of 
people who speak of "male and Female Receptacles" without giggling.

15) From: miKe mcKoffee
Yup, pull shots for first cup of the morning Americanos before the eyes can
even focus yet:-) And way cool having that first fresh ground fresh brewed
cup BEFORE any other brewing method would even be near done too! 
Or if safe use them classy glassy brewers as table centerpiece:-)

16) From: Scot Murphy
On Oct 26, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Les wrote:
This sounds like something common to Yamas...
Scot "was luckily a few feet away" Murphy
"And if you somehow think Habeas Corpus has not been suspended for  
American citizens but only for everybody else, ask yourself this: If  
you are pulled off the street tomorrow, and they call you an alien or  =
an undocumented immigrant or an 'unlawful enemy combatant'  exactly  =
how are you going to convince them to give you a court hearing to  
prove you are not? Do you think this Attorney General is going to  
help you?"
	--Keith Olbermann, 10-18-06

17) From: Aaron
Ideally the pots are manufactured to handle the stress of being under 
vaccuum etc during their normal use.  Over time scratches and nicks can 
weaken them and they can crack / implode occasionally.
It reminds me of back in my school days, the teacher had a 'blarney 
jar'.... it basically was a beaker that was stress relieved so that the 
outside was darn near like kevlar, he took this thing and dropped it and 
we all watched in amusement while this glass beaker essentially bounced 
off the floor.  He then put something inside it, I cant remember,I think 
it was a metal rod or a glass stir rod or something and barely rubbed 
against the inside and the thing broke into about 50 pieces.
This is also one of the reasons they say to throw away a pyrex pot if 
you happen to boil it dry.  I never did, ... but the stress of the 
superheating because of no water in it can weaken it and it can 
eventually shatter one day dumping hot coffee all over whoever / 
whatever, and if it's an electric pot, now potentially posing a shock 
hazard as well... aka lawsuit city.   By telling you to be rid of it, 
they are basically trying to cover their butts legally if that does 
happen because they told ya so!
Back to your pot.  They take a lot of abuse, slight pressure, cold, hot 
VERY hot, high vaccuum, the bottom at a boiled dry temp now being 
flashed back to coffee temp, etc etc.  Then we wash it, possibly scrub 
it with a greenie pad or whatever to clean it...  over time they do weaken.
Once glass gets a stress line or fracture in it, all it takes is a 
'ting' and it will break right along that weak spot.  Ask anyone who 
cuts glass for a living, score it then tap it, it'll run right down the 
weak line.  If it happens to be weak from age/abuse then the break will 
happen about as orderly as an ant stampede :)
Aaron who is trying his kona today even though he KNOWS it should rest a 
few days more...

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