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Topic: Brazil Cachoeira Yellow Bourbon (19 msgs / 654 lines)
1) From: Jeff Sheltren
Good morning everyone - I thought I'd send my notes on the Yellow  
Bourbon since I'm just finishing up my first cup.
I roasted this two days ago to FC/FC+ (just a couple pops of 2nd at  
the very end of the roast as cooling started).  At first, I was a bit  
unimpressed, but that's probably because I brewed this just after  
finishing a cup of the DP Sidamo which is just full of fruit (tons of  
blueberry this morning, 5 days after roast), so my palate was looking  
for lots of fruits which this YB certainly does not have.  However,  
as I kept drinking it, it really started to grow on me and I realized  
that it was one of the most well-balanced cups I've ever had.  There  
is a slight "woody" taste, but also some sweet tones.  This coffee is  
definitely very good!
What makes me even happier is that I just went to double check Tom's  
notes on it, and he had basically the same things to say about this  
coffee as I did - granted he is much better at putting his taste  
thoughts into words :)  But I'm happy that after a couple months of  
roasting I'm starting to pick out things from each coffee I taste.   
When I started it was either "good" or "bad" - well, actually it was  
usually "good" or "great" since I have some wonderful beans to start  
with!
Thanks for listening to my rant.
-Jeff

2) From: Les
Thanks for sharing Jeff.  I really like the Yellow Bourbon too.  As you say,
it is a nice balanced cup.  This morning I am drinking a "mystery coffee."
The only thing I know is that it is a peaberry.   The label fell off in the
stash and I couldn't find it.  It is a very nice cup of coffee, and it might
be my missing India Mataduked Estate Peaberry.  It has a nice spiciness of
sage and rosemary, and it isn't super bright.  Great tasting and mild with a
smooth after taste.
Les
On 10/27/06, Jeff Sheltren  wrote:
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3) From: Kevin
Jeff,
I roasted the Brazilian Yellow Bourbon to City+ Sunday and have been
drinking it this week (roasted to City+ in an IR1, Solis Maestro ground,
French Press brew).  I ran out on Thursday morning :((  It too really
enjoyed this coffee.  Wish I ordered more than 1 lb.  Hopefully it'll be
around when my stash needs replenishing (the Mrs. mandated my stash be < 15
lbs)!
Tonight I roast some Ethiopian Idido Misty Valley...
On an interesting side note...I brewed up some older whole bean Gevalia
Signature Blend I had in the pantry (unopened in a one-way valve factury
sealed bag) and didn't tell my wife.  The look on her face when she took the
first sip was priceless!  She said, "Had some trouble with this roast?"
When I told her it was her old favorite (before I started home roasting) she
was floored!  She couldn't believe the "homeroast" difference.  That was
indeed a Kodak moment...Thanks SM!

4) From: Vince Doss
Priceless indeed!
On 10/27/06, Kevin  wrote:
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At some point between French and fire, it really doesn't matter much what
the "origin character" of the coffee was...
Tom Owens - Sweet Marias

5) From: Gerald and Beth Newsom
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Kevin, I had a very similar experience this summer.  My wife and I were =
preparing to leave for a vacation trip to the beach.  I had roasted =
quite a bit of coffee to take along with us, but that morning I had =
second thoughts and was afraid we didn't have enough.  So, I ran to our =
local grocery and purchased one of their store-brand small bags of =
coffee that was enough to make one pot of coffee.  Didn't say anything =
to my wife about it.  She sips it ( rather reflectively, I thought) =
before asking, "What kind of coffee is this?"  I said, "It's a bit =
darker roast. Why?"
"Well," she says, "it's not up to your usual standards."
Made my day!  Validation, at last.  :-)
Can also report that the husband of the couple that went with us on that =
trip is not a coffee drinker, yet he drank coffee every morning and most =
evenings on that trip.  Has had only one cup of coffee since our return. =
 He says that if it's my fresh roast, he will gladly drink coffee, but =
not otherwise.
Gerald

6) From: Les
Kevin,
How can you live with a 15 pound limit?  15 Kilo would be tough!  My current
stash has swelled to closer to 150 pounds.  I do roast for 4 coffee drinkers
in the house and send coffee to two of my children and my parents and I keep
my Pastor supplied.  You need to show your wife the great savings per pound
if you get a 10 pounder of those favorites.  I bought a 10 pounder of the
Yellow Bourbon, just because I know my two daughters are going to claimer
for more once they get theirs, so Dad needs to protect his coffee pleasure's
by having enough on had for me.
May now is the time with that "Kodak" moment to get that stash limit raised
to at least 50 pounds.  Show her the illogic in the stash limit.  I just
sent a SM order.  I bought 2 pounds of coffee that cost $31.10 (The CoE
selection from El Salvador).  for about $5.00 more I could have bought a 10
pounder of the Columbia Excelso!  By the way this coffee is loved by all who
have had a cup in my circle.  Or go back a few months.  The 3 pound trifecta
from Panama was $100.00.  For $100.00 you could buy 10 pounds of  Brazil
Yellow Bourbon, 10 pounds of Columbia Excelso, plus an 8 pack sampler for a
total of 24 pounds.  So,  "Honey is it 3 pounds of yummy Panama, or 24
pounds of outstanding coffees from around the world, with two awesome
mainstays?"   I am glad my wife leaves the coffee obsession to me!  Thanks
Becky.
Les
On 10/27/06, Kevin  wrote:
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7) From: miKe mcKoffee
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Rather than a specific "poundage" stash target, I'd suggest estimating your
weekly usage and multiply by 52 for a 1 year to 18 month max stash target.
 
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee 
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc: http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm
Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Les
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:17 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Brazil Cachoeira Yellow Bourbon
Kevin,
How can you live with a 15 pound limit?  15 Kilo would be tough!  My current
stash has swelled to closer to 150 pounds.  I do roast for 4 coffee drinkers
in the house and send coffee to two of my children and my parents and I keep
my Pastor supplied.  You need to show your wife the great savings per pound
if you get a 10 pounder of those favorites.  I bought a 10 pounder of the
Yellow Bourbon, just because I know my two daughters are going to claimer
for more once they get theirs, so Dad needs to protect his coffee pleasure's
by having enough on had for me. 
May now is the time with that "Kodak" moment to get that stash limit raised
to at least 50 pounds.  Show her the illogic in the stash limit.  I just
sent a SM order.  I bought 2 pounds of coffee that cost $31.10 (The CoE
selection from El Salvador).  for about $5.00 more I could have bought a 10
pounder of the Columbia Excelso!  By the way this coffee is loved by all who
have had a cup in my circle.  Or go back a few months.  The 3 pound trifecta
from Panama was $100.00.  For $100.00 you could buy 10 pounds of  Brazil
Yellow Bourbon, 10 pounds of Columbia Excelso, plus an 8 pack sampler for a
total of 24 pounds.  So,  "Honey is it 3 pounds of yummy Panama, or 24
pounds of outstanding coffees from around the world, with two awesome
mainstays?"   I am glad my wife leaves the coffee obsession to me!  Thanks
Becky. 
Les
On 10/27/06, Kevin  wrote: 
Jeff,
 
I roasted the Brazilian Yellow Bourbon to City+ Sunday and have been
drinking it this week (roasted to City+ in an IR1, Solis Maestro ground,
French Press brew).  I ran out on Thursday morning :((  It too really
enjoyed this coffee.  Wish I ordered more than 1 lb.  Hopefully it'll be
around when my stash needs replenishing (the Mrs. mandated my stash be < 15
lbs)! 
 
Tonight I roast some Ethiopian Idido Misty Valley...
 
On an interesting side note...I brewed up some older whole bean Gevalia
Signature Blend I had in the pantry (unopened in a one-way valve factury
sealed bag) and didn't tell my wife.  The look on her face when she took the
first sip was priceless!  She said, "Had some trouble with this roast?"
When I told her it was her old favorite (before I started home roasting) she
was floored!  She couldn't believe the "homeroast" difference.  That was
indeed a Kodak moment...Thanks SM!    

8) From: Lynne
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MiKe -
That's a great idea. However, you must realize that not everyone has 
the resources to do this.
Some live from (very small) paycheck to paycheck. (and others of us are =
only HOPING for a paycheck!)
L.
On Oct 27, 2006, at 11:22 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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MiKe - 
That's a great idea. However, you must realize that not everyone has
the resources to do this. 
Some live from (very small) paycheck to paycheck. (and others of us
are only HOPING for a paycheck!)
L.
On Oct 27, 2006, at 11:22 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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than a specific "poundage" stash target, I'd suggest estimating your
weekly usage and multiply by 52 for a 1 year to 18 month max stash
target.

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not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone
before.
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9) From: miKe mcKoffee
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Didn't say or mean to imply go out and build a big stash. Rather "max stash
target" as opposed to some tendencies of overly large stash which will last
too long with corresponding danger of greens going flat and baggy...
 
miKe  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Lynne
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:30 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Brazil Cachoeira Yellow Bourbon
MiKe - 
That's a great idea. However, you must realize that not everyone has the
resources to do this. 
Some live from (very small) paycheck to paycheck. (and others of us are only
HOPING for a paycheck!)
L.
On Oct 27, 2006, at 11:22 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
Rather than a specific "poundage" stash target, I'd suggest estimating your
weekly usage and multiply by 52 for a 1 year to 18 month max stash target.

10) From: Kevin
Mike,
I like your idea, I may do that.  Right now I keep a 15 lb stash and
re-order when I'm down to 2 lbs.  I'm the primary coffee drinker (see
below)...
Les,
As my wife and I both love coffee, I'm the primary drinker (16-24oz per day)
mainly in the morning.  My wife has really cut back.  She was pregnant up
until Oct 14th and now she's breast feeding.  She didn't want the baby
jacked up on caffeine and up at night.  I'm trying to ease her into Tom's
decaf.  I'm going to bring a hand grinder to work and a 2cup French Press so
I can **quietly** (that's the key word) enjoy afternoon coffee at work.
That might increase my coffee consumption.
She also keeps me on a strict coffee budget covering supplies and beans...so
I have design constraints :(  It'll take me a while to save for the Gene
Cafe...Though to your point above, I should lobby for the roaster since I
had no fresh roast when the Gevalia experiment occurred and obviously need
larger roast sizes...I'm hoping for Christmas! (maybe I should try the HG/DB
method?)
I agree with your daughters, the Brazilian Yellow Bourbon is outstanding,
roasting more tonight!  I should have bought 5 lbs.  So far it's my favorite
coffee with the Harrar horse a close second ;-)
On 10/27/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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Kevin

11) From: Leo Zick
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i still havent crossed that border yet. most ive spent is $70 shipped, which
seems like a lot to me, and i have around 15lbs total sitting around.  im
still trying to see if its actually cheaper to buy greens. lol
 
im sure once i refine my tastes, ill buy larger quantities of those i really
like.  for now, its 1-2lbs at a time, which in total should still last a few
months  
From: miKe mcKoffee [mailto:mcKona] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:42 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: RE: +Brazil Cachoeira Yellow Bourbon
Didn't say or mean to imply go out and build a big stash. Rather "max stash
target" as opposed to some tendencies of overly large stash which will last
too long with corresponding danger of greens going flat and baggy...
 
miKe  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Lynne
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:30 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Brazil Cachoeira Yellow Bourbon
MiKe - 
That's a great idea. However, you must realize that not everyone has the
resources to do this. 
Some live from (very small) paycheck to paycheck. (and others of us are only
HOPING for a paycheck!)
L.
On Oct 27, 2006, at 11:22 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
Rather than a specific "poundage" stash target, I'd suggest estimating your
weekly usage and multiply by 52 for a 1 year to 18 month max stash target.

12) From: Leo Zick
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heres a nice blend i made using it. im sure it can use tweaking, but it
makes a nice 'dunkin donuts' like blend.. ive tried it as one cup filter
drip, press pot, and americano, and it tastes increasingly good, in that
order. :)
 
3 parts brazil yellow bourbon
2 parts guatamala antigua peaberry
2 parts costa rica tarrazu
2 parts mexican chiapas
 
total was a bit more than 1/4 lb
i may cut back on the guatamala next time just to lessen the fruitiness a
bit  
From: Les [mailto:les.albjerg] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:38 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Brazil Cachoeira Yellow Bourbon
Thanks for sharing Jeff.  I really like the Yellow Bourbon too.  As you say,
it is a nice balanced cup.  This morning I am drinking a "mystery coffee."
The only thing I know is that it is a peaberry.   The label fell off in the
stash and I couldn't find it.  It is a very nice cup of coffee, and it might
be my missing India Mataduked Estate Peaberry.  It has a nice spiciness of
sage and rosemary, and it isn't super bright.  Great tasting and mild with a
smooth after taste. 
 
Les
On 10/27/06, Jeff Sheltren  wrote: 
Good morning everyone - I thought I'd send my notes on the Yellow
Bourbon since I'm just finishing up my first cup. 
I roasted this two days ago to FC/FC+ (just a couple pops of 2nd at
the very end of the roast as cooling started).  At first, I was a bit
unimpressed, but that's probably because I brewed this just after
finishing a cup of the DP Sidamo which is just full of fruit (tons of
blueberry this morning, 5 days after roast), so my palate was looking
for lots of fruits which this YB certainly does not have.  However,
as I kept drinking it, it really started to grow on me and I realized 
that it was one of the most well-balanced cups I've ever had.  There
is a slight "woody" taste, but also some sweet tones.  This coffee is
definitely very good!
What makes me even happier is that I just went to double check Tom's 
notes on it, and he had basically the same things to say about this
coffee as I did - granted he is much better at putting his taste
thoughts into words :)  But I'm happy that after a couple months of
roasting I'm starting to pick out things from each coffee I taste. 
When I started it was either "good" or "bad" - well, actually it was
usually "good" or "great" since I have some wonderful beans to start
with!
Thanks for listening to my rant. 
-Jeff

13) From: Brian Kamnetz
This discussion has made me feel better about my stash. I am the only coffee
drinker, and have a daily limit of a cup (12 oz, about 17 g of grounds, or
double that for two cups). My stash is around 12 pounds. Les says he has
about 150 pounds in his stash, but, as he notes in his earlier post, he
supplies coffee for about 10 people. On a "pounds per capita" basis, his
stash isn't that different from mine; however, it is WAY different in terms
of variety, but not much I can do about that, going through the coffee as
slowly as I do.
Brian
On 10/27/06, Leo Zick  wrote:
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14) From: Eddie Dove
Tonight I roast some Ethiopian Idido Misty Valley...
Kevin,
Treat he like the lady she is and allow her the rest she needs.  Then
prepare for the magic carpet ride!
Eddie
On 10/27/06, Kevin  wrote:
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15) From: Tom Ulmer
Okay. I don't really get the gender bender correlation.
What was your take on the Idido Mountain?

16) From: Eddie Dove
Tom,
First of all a typo ...
Treat HER like the lady she is and allow her the rest she needs.  Then
prepare for the magic carpet ride!
I made a post a couple of weeks ago titled "Oh Happy Day" where I likened
this coffee to a mythological Siren.
Eddie
On 10/27/06, Tom Ulmer  wrote:
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17) From: scott miller
That sure sounds like the Matadakad (or however it's spelled)
peaberry. I said goodbye to my last bit of that a couple weeks ago.
I'm also loving the Brazil YB; fabulous alone, but one heck of a fine
base for espresso, too.
My current TODO list includes clearing out some of my Indo stash; with
new PNG and Timor available, it's time to get serious about my
non-Sumatra Indo supply. I'll have to say that the previous Timor
beans were some of the most enjoyable beans that I was introduced to
this year.
I try to do something like miKe suggests for a stash target ... it
ain't working ... I don't care, either .
cheers,
ScoTTT --> need more beans
On 10/27/06, Les  wrote:
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18) From: Tom Ulmer
I had a Temptations song bouncing around my brain at first, then it dawned
on me that maybe I didn't get it because the Idido Mountain is so bright and
fruity... In fact my first roast of it was all sky and no Earth and a bit
disappointing for my tastes. Maybe the next roast will come around...

19) From: Scot Murphy
On Oct 27, 2006, at 1:09 PM, scott miller wrote:
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I am on my last few pounds of it and have virtually nothing else in  
my stash. I weep.
Scot "alms for an old ex-leper" Murphy
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American citizens but only for everybody else, ask yourself this: If  
you are pulled off the street tomorrow, and they call you an alien or  =
an undocumented immigrant or an 'unlawful enemy combatant'  exactly  =
how are you going to convince them to give you a court hearing to  
prove you are not? Do you think this Attorney General is going to  
help you?"
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