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Topic: Hot Top -v- Gene Cafe (6 msgs / 177 lines)
1) From: Tim TenClay
I had decided on a Gene Cafe, but have been doing a little more
looking.  There's really not much of a price difference between it and
the Hot Top.   My perception is that the Gene Cafe is a "home" styled
unit while the Hot Top patterns itself more after a "commercial"
style.  I don't know if that's true.
Give then choice....Which would you recommend?  Why?
Thanks a ton!
Grace and Peace,
  `tim
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2) From: Eddie Dove
Tim,
I own a Gene Cafe, but I do not have a Hottop.
I use my Gene Cafe (GC) strictly indoors under a range hood that is vented
outside, but I am sure one can do the same with the Hottop.  I do like the
fact the the "exhaust" / chaff collector is directional; I can "aim" the
smoke, smells and sounds.  Since I have a hearing deficit, this has really
helped me become more attuned to the non-audible roasting cues; which has
helped me produce some of the best coffee I have ever had, and produce the
flavors that Tom writes about in the coffee descriptions.  Probably what I
like the most is that I use it, empty the chaff collector and put it away.
I would be more than glad to answer any questions you may have.
I hope this is helpful.
Eddie Dove
Long Beach, Mississippi
On 11/1/06, Tim TenClay  wrote:
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3) From: Barry Luterman
Hottop has the advantage of better cooling. Plus for those who don't like to 
fuss with a bunch of variables it can't be beat. Roasting by,time ,temp and 
smell is all I have ever needed. Too many variables give me headaches. Also 
from what I have seen the Hottop seems better built. Actually it's built 
like a tank. Haven't heard any complaints of breakdowns or costly repairs. 
It's been around longer than the Gene. Furthermore, as you said it's more of 
a drum roaster than a hybrid fluid bed roaster and for me coffee roasted in 
a drum roaster is superior to one roasted in a fluid bed.

4) From: miKe mcKoffee
Stock, the HotTop really is not like a commercial drum roaster and tends =
to
roast longer and slower than I've seen usual for most artisan drum =
roasts.
Probats, Dietrichs, San Frans etc. drum roasters all have profile =
control,
manual or automated, while the HotTop does not. Solid drums on =
commercials
versus perfed. Spent 5 hours yesterday with Phillip @ Paradise Café =
roasting
on his Dietrich IR7. (Variable gas infrared heaters and two drum air =
speeds
80 or 20%)
A modified P1 with dual variable voltage control can actually do better =
than
a HotTop.
But for an off the shelf easy to use roaster the HotTop does a decent =
job,
better than most if not all of the other stock off the shelf home =
roasting
appliances.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I =
must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal =
enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone =
before.
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5) From: Leo Zick
Im guessing for commercial roasters, they can also be drum or air?  Is =
there
a combo of both? That would seem ideal.

6) From: Frank Parth
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Tim,
I went through the same angst a couple of month ago, looking at pluses and minuses of each machine. I finally settled on a Gene Cafe (which came just hours before I left on a week long trip so that I couldn't even try it). I'm really happy with the machine having run a dozen or so roasts through it. I also worried about the more rapid cooling ability ofthe Hot Top, but I can't say that the Gene Cafe is excessive in the cool-down period. Maybe it's just not as importantto me since I've learned from Tom that you just stop the roast a little shy of where you want it and let it coast intothe right degree of roasting. Works just fine.
Frank Parth


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