This has been entertaining. Claims and counter claims with little or no supporting evidence presented. I propose the debate be formalized and the winner judged by the List at large. Both John & Dave get One (more) post to substantiate and document their arguments and claims. Then both get One post to rebuttal the other's post. Finally each get a final closing post. We then vote for the JD Debate winner. The JD Debate & Results will be published and copyrighted:-) miKe <Snip>
On Nov 2, 2006, at 4:38 pm, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> Well, lest we forget the original point, which some seem intent on obscuring, don't pull stuff off web sites and post it here or elsewhere without crediting the author/source and if it's more than a small bit of text, just post a link to it, rather than copying it. People deserve credit for the work they do, even when they are giving information away for free, and it's not right to post what someone else has written without attribution. And, if it's material off a competitors site (which the posted information was not) it probably shouldn't be posted to SM's list anyway, nor should the URL. John Blumel
<Snip> Lest we forget the original INTENT of this list IS COFFEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will cast my vote for Mr. Blumel as I believe his original intent was not necessarily to pursue debate intended for lawyers and lawmakers but rather to jibe the original poster to consider mores and conventions of polite folk.