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Topic: ethiopia trademarks growing names? (6 msgs / 157 lines)
1) From: Zane Goff
this article (linked below) seems to be a fitting one with todays postings.
ethiopia is apparently trying to copyright the names of its growing regions in an effort to make more money for farmers. this comes on the heel of the expiration of starschmucks copyright application for the word "sidamo".  i heard starbucks owns the US patent to the word 'venti', does that mean anytime anyone says 'venti ('twenty') they owe *$'s a royalty.  i sure hope not.   with copyright issues, i always feel its the lawyers that end up making the bulk of the profits.
farmers not lawyers!http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1931806,00.htmli respect ethiopia's intentions to earn more for some of the poorest of their citizens, but it seems unnecessary to me, as the international coffee associations seem to be able to ensure that growing regions are certified.  if *$ had not tried first to 'steal' the names of ethiopia's regions i don't think they would be acting this way.  
zane
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2) From: Dan Bollinger
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
You can't patent a word, only a device or process. Starbucks protection =
of the word 'venti' is probably a trademark.  Ditto with 'sidamo,' =
though it is now dead.
I did a search, and the Ethipian Government trademarked the word =
'sidamo' on March, 2005.  =http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=eaqrpp.2.1Starbucks trademark for the phrase 'SHIRKINA SUN-DRIED SIDAMO' expired =
in July, 2006. =http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=eaqrpp.2.2  this article (linked below) seems to be a fitting one with todays =
postings.
  ethiopia is apparently trying to copyright the names of its growing =
regions in an effort to make more money for farmers. this comes on the =
heel of the expiration of starschmucks copyright application for the =
word "sidamo".  i heard starbucks owns the US patent to the word =
'venti', does that mean anytime anyone says 'venti ('twenty') they owe =
*$'s a royalty.  i sure hope not.   with copyright issues, i always feel =
its the lawyers that end up making the bulk of the profits.
  farmers not lawyers!
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1931806,00.html  i respect ethiopia's intentions to earn more for some of the poorest =
of their citizens, but it seems unnecessary to me, as the international =
coffee associations seem to be able to ensure that growing regions are =
certified.  if *$ had not tried first to 'steal' the names of ethiopia's =
regions i don't think they would be acting this way.  
  zane
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3) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
I saw the Oxfam ad today in the NYT. The ad is about 75% accurate, 
which is A LOT better than the trashy barrage of full page starbucks 
NYT ads bragging about what saints they are. Anyway,  I think that 
appellations for coffee regions should be defined and controlled by 
the growers associations, but making universal connections between a 
name and good quality is also misleading. (But a lot less misleading 
than a company or corporation getting hold of an appellation and 
trademarking/branding it. Even though the oxfam ad isn't precise, I 
think its a good idea to make starbucks act better by using a bit of 
public shaming. After all, their "we're such do-gooders" ads are so 
shameless they could use a bit more humility! And I can't believe 
they wouldn't invite incredible public opposition if they tried to 
enforce a trademark on the word Sidamo. The last thing starbucks 
would want is to unify 10,000 small coffeeshops and roasters (and 
hey, homeroasters) against them!
Tom
PS: remember Folgers had "Mountain Grown" trademarked. Now that is 
even more ridiculous.
this article (linked below) seems to be a fitting one with todays postings.
ethiopia is apparently trying to copyright the names of its growing 
regions in an effort to make more money for farmers. this comes on 
the heel of the expiration of starschmucks copyright application for 
the word "sidamo".  i heard starbucks owns the US patent to the word 
'venti', does that mean anytime anyone says 'venti ('twenty') they 
owe *$'s a royalty.  i sure hope not.   with copyright issues, i 
always feel its the lawyers that end up making the bulk of the 
profits.
farmers not lawyers!http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1931806,00.htmli respect ethiopia's intentions to earn more for some of the poorest 
of their citizens, but it seems unnecessary to me, as the 
international coffee associations seem to be able to ensure that 
growing regions are certified.  if *$ had not tried first to 'steal' 
the names of ethiopia's regions i don't think they would be acting 
this way. 
zane
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all-new 
Yahoo! Mail.
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4) From: Les
Tom,
Growing up where Green Giant grew much of their produce for canning,
the question in Hutchinson, Minnesota was, "Why is Folger's mountain
grown?"  The correct answer was, "Because the Green Giant peas in the
valley."
Les
On 11/2/06, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee 
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5) From: Sheila Quinn
Hutchinson, huh? I grew up just down the road from you in Willmar!
So do you still live in the area?
Sheila
Les wrote:
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6) From: Les
Sheila,
NO!  I live in Roseburg, Oregon.  We don't have to shovel snow.  We don't
have mosquitoes.  We have very low humidity in the summer with temps in the
80s and 90s during the day and cooling off in the 60s at night.  If I want
snow it is about an hour away in the winter.  Minnesota was a nice place to
grow up.  I do miss the friendly people.
Les
On 11/2/06, Sheila Quinn  wrote:
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