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Topic: Heavy Body/BOLD Coffee (17 msgs / 750 lines)
1) From: Steve Hay
Maybe the SM FR blend?
The ones I would recommend are not in stock anymore, like the Blangili
Longberry, etc.
I've found that some Sumatras stand up to dark roasting pretty well, but yo=
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definitely lose something on the high-end when you do this.
For a bit more snappy bitterness and more caffeine, thought about playing
with the Robusta?
Steve
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2) From: Eddie Dove
Dennis,
Perhaps:
Yemen Mokha Sana'ani
Java Government Estate Djampit
Sumatra Iskandar Triple-Pick
Respectfully,
Eddie
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3) From: Vicki Smith
The SM Moka Kadir blend might fit the bill.
vicki
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4) From: Don Harris
50% Yemen Mokha Sana'ani / 50% Java Government Estate Djampit,
blended after roasting to Full City++.
Don
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5) From: Thbull
I second the Moka Kadir and the Sumatra Iskandar Triple-pick; both  
have given me the response you're looking for!
--Thbull 'drinkin' the SITP even now'
On Nov 7, 2006, at 6:49 AM, Vicki Smith wrote:
The SM Moka Kadir blend might fit the bill.
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6) From: Vicki Smith
One advantage of the MK is that if folks get hooked on it, it's likely 
to be available for a very long time. It's my universal back-up. I 
always have some of it on hand, both because it is predictably good, and 
because it does well on little rest, if I have a sudden coffee 
emergency. I like it better a few days out, but it's darn good the day 
after roasting too.
vicki
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7) From: scott miller
Those are 2 favorites of mine also. The Iskandar Triple Pick is a hit with
my friends who say they want a "bold" coffee. I'm just about out of it, but
I'm sure to look for that one again on my next purchase.
cheers,
ScoTTT
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8) From: Ken Mary
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Most Indonesian coffees will have the heavy body, but the boldness comes
from roasting lighter than full city. These were my favorites when popper
roasting since the fast profile retains brightness which balances the
naturally heavy body. If some of these are not on the SM list then wait: any
Timor, Sulawesi Toraja, Sumatra Mandheling, and most aged Indonesians
especially Java Old Brown. Avoid the triple picks, all of the character has
been "picked out".
I also recommend Yemens (esp Mocca Mattari) and Colombians (unpredictable),
but the Colombians may have to be slow roasted to tame the naturally high
brightness. Yemens IMO are more suited to a refined palate, save them for
the officers.
If you have not tried a straight robusta, buy the India washed robusta.
While I have no experience with this lot, robustas can be a real eye opener.
The caffeine is double that of arabica, and when properly roasted to avoid
the rubbery flavors, may have an incredible bittersweet chocolate at full
city. Lighter roasts may be needed to retain brightness. You can also blend
the robusta with other coffees.
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9) From: Alchemist John
The Liquid Amber should fit the bill, as would an 
aged Sumatra (which I am not sure if there is any in at the time).
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10) From: Sandy Andina
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Sumatra Triple-Pick Iskandar, Puro Scuro, Moka Kadir have all worked  
well for me at darker roasts (up through Vienna) and are full-bodied.
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through Vienna) and are full-bodied.
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11:44 AM, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69) wrote:

Got a question for = the group I am getting numerous requests for heavy body/bold coffee.  I = know bold is a dangerous word when it comes to coffee, but we are = talking about NAVY Chief’s here (they believe that is the spoon stands = up in a mug the coffee is just about right)

What are the recommendations from the current = offerings on the site? 

As previously stated they love the Bug (and are = loving the Hippy’s in the Malabar***WOW WHAT A COFFEE***)but sometimes = change is nice.

What I think I am looking for would be a good heavy body = (think cough syrup more than water) coffee that can go to Full = City/Fully City+/- for drip over pot use (I keep the Aeropress for = special occasions for them!)  and really hold the nuance of the bean = with out turning all roast flavors.

Thanks again for all the = help!

AKA,

FC1(SW) = Dennis W. True

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11) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
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Got a question for the group I am getting numerous requests for heavy
body/bold coffee.  I know bold is a dangerous word when it comes to
coffee, but we are talking about NAVY Chief's here (they believe that is
the spoon stands up in a mug the coffee is just about right)
What are the recommendations from the current offerings on the site?  
As previously stated they love the Bug (and are loving the Hippy's in
the Malabar***WOW WHAT A COFFEE***)but sometimes change is nice.
What I think I am looking for would be a good heavy body (think cough
syrup more than water) coffee that can go to Full City/Fully
City+/-Vienna for drip over pot use (I keep the Aeropress for special
occasions for them!)  and really hold the nuance of the bean with out
turning all roast flavors.
Thanks again for all the help! 
Dennis
 
AKA,
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True
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USS Dwight D Eisenhower (CVN 69)
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12) From: Tom Bellhouse
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Hi Dennis,
I'll recommend the inexpensive Colombian that Tom has listed.  It's a =
very good, full-bodied cup at C+ but I don't know about the result of =
going darker 'cause I haven't been there.  Shouldn't hurt, since there's =
no bitterness at C+.  But full-bodied and cheap, that's a good combo.
Tom in GA
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13) From: Tom Bellhouse
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Another thought.  I measure grounds for my FP by volume, and I've found =
that each coffee requires a slightly different volume (or weight) of =
grounds to show itself at it's peak.  If you're doing FP, you might try =
a slightly finer grind, slightly more grounds and a slightly longer =
steeping time -- all in search of that "robust, full bodied" character.
Tom in GA
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"The woods are lovely, dark and thick.   
But I have many butts to kick and some to poke, 
   and just one stick."  - G. Keillor
  On 11/7/06, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)  wrote:
    Got a question for the group I am getting numerous requests for =
heavy body/bold coffee.  I know bold is a dangerous word when it comes =
to coffee, but we are talking about NAVY Chief's here (they believe that =
is the spoon stands up in a mug the coffee is just about right)
    What are the recommendations from the current offerings on the site? =
 
    As previously stated they love the Bug (and are loving the Hippy's =
in the Malabar***WOW WHAT A COFFEE***)but sometimes change is nice.
    What I think I am looking for would be a good heavy body (think =
cough syrup more than water) coffee that can go to Full City/Fully =
City+/-Vienna for drip over pot use (I keep the Aeropress for special =
occasions for them!)  and really hold the nuance of the bean with out =
turning all roast flavors.
    Thanks again for all the help! 
    Dennis
    AKA,
    FC1(SW) Dennis W. True
    CS/CS-5 
    USS Dwight D Eisenhower (CVN 69)
    FPO AE 09532-2830
    Ships CV-SHARP Adminstrator
    CS Dept CC
    CS Dept TRANO
    Duty Sec 1 CS E6 S/L
    CS Dept Mentorship Coordinator
    DCTT Repair locker 1F
     "On station and On point 178 and counting…"
    "Direct support for boots on the ground is only a call away!" 
    For Official Use only -- Privacy Act Protected Information contained =
(including attachments) in this correspondence may be subject to the =
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Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521.  Personal information =
contained in this correspondence may be used only by authorized persons =
in the conduct of official business.  Any unauthorized disclosure or =
misuse of personal information may result in criminal and/or civil =
penalties.  If you are not the intended recipient of this correspondence =
please destroy all copies of this correspondence after notifying the =
sender of your receipt of it.
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  Steven Hay
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  Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of =
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14) From: Brian Kamnetz
On 11/7/06, Tom Bellhouse  wrote:
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I'm wondering whether you might not want to start with a cooler water temp
to do the above; my fear is that grinding more finely and increasing
steeping time will result in increased bitterness.
Brian

15) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
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Thanks everyone, for all the advice I foresee Harvey making another FPO
delivery after next payday!
What is the FR blend? (We don't have internet access, just email right
now and until it is restored I can't get to the website) so amplifying
information would be greatly appreciated. 
Thanks again
 
Dennis
AKA
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True
CS/CS-5
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69)
FPO AE 09532-2830
 
Man of many hats!
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 "On station and on point 178 and counting..." 
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16) From: Ken Mary
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rubbery flavors
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Sorry I cannot be more specific since I do not frequently roast robusta.
Popper results were distinctly inferior to drum. Try to reach first in about
10 to 12 minutes. When first begins, immediately reduce heat to stall the
roast just short of second crack. Stop about 4 to 5 minutes after first
begins, but do not go more than a few snaps into second. Best brews are
after 4 days rest. Practice on the Vietnam Robusta.
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17) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
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"The caffeine is double that of arabica, and when properly roasted to
avoid the rubbery flavors..."
Can we define properly roasted? Is this a slower roast profile?
Thanks
 
Dennis
AKA
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True
CS/CS-5
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69)
FPO AE 09532-2830
 
Man of many hats!
HG/DB and Z&D roasting in the Indian Ocean
 "On station and on point 178 and counting..." 
"Direct support for troops on the ground is only a call away!"
 
 


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