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1) From: Chad
I think I have overcome the leftover grounds issue. I now just blow 
canned air through a small hole drilled in the blue chute. This seems to 
work really well. However, lately my Rocky thinks it is done when there 
are still whole beans in the hopper. Its too heavy to shake so I need to 
stick my finger in the hopper (motor off) and move the beans around a 
bit and then try again. This sometimes takes several tries- extremely 
frustrating. Any suggestions? Maybe it's the bean. I will roast some 
others today.
Chad

2) From: Don Harris
I have not followed your Rocky issues so forgive me if this has been
covered. I dremeled out about 3/4-1 inch hole in the top of the chute
to brush clean the leftover grounds. I use a Click-Clack lid to blow
grounds from the hopper. You need to put your finger over the whole in
the chute so you don't blow grounds in your face but it works. I also
dremeled out about a 1/2 hole in the finger guard to poke the stuck
beans. Dark roasted, oily beans tend to stick more.
I will see if I can dig up a link to the Click-Clack lid
Don
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3) From: Barry Luterman
Do you have the finger guard still installed? Most of us have removed it.

4) From: Barry Luterman
Also put some Scotch Tape over the recessed screw heads. Here are pictures 
of the Click Clack lid in action.http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sidŠZOWzZk0ZNGZ6

5) From: Mark J Bergh
Barry,
That is JUST what I have been looking for!  Where did you get that
Click-Clack lid?
I am about tired of banging the OE lid rapidly down to force air through the
coffee passageways.
Good looking fit too! 
MJB

6) From: Angelo
The first thing I did, before I even plugged in Rocky, was to take 
off the finger guard (I don't have any small children or pets 
around). I've done it with every grinder I've owned. I have a feeling 
these are put on as a CYA measure by the company.
Next put some tape over the inset screws. Beans tend to like to hide 
there. This is one part of the Rocky design that made me shake my 
head.. Since I only grind for the one shot, and don't want the beans 
jumping around I take  an extra basket I have lying around and sit it 
on the beans. Sometimes, use caps from juice bottles.
Occasionally, I will use an ear syringe to blow air around the 
hopper, while the motor is still running, to encourage any pieces of 
beans to meet the burrs...I found that canned air and hair dryers on 
cool are just too strong...
After the motor is off, I finish with a couple of pumps with an 
Eggstracter, ...
It sounds more involved than it really is :-)
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7) From: Sandy Andina
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Use a chopstick or pipe cleaner--safer than fingers.
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cleaner--safer than fingers.
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Chad wrote:
I think I have overcome the = leftover grounds issue. I now just blow canned air through a small hole = drilled in the blue chute. This seems to work really well. However, = lately my Rocky thinks it is done when there are still whole beans in = the hopper. Its too heavy to shake so I need to stick my finger in the = hopper (motor off) and move the beans around a bit and then try again. = This sometimes takes several tries- extremely frustrating. Any = suggestions? Maybe it's the bean. I will roast some others = today.Chadhomeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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8) From: Barry Luterman
Goggle Click Clack there are a bunch of Kitchen supply places that carry 
Click Clack. The part is a lid from a 0.6 litra Part # 3010

9) From: Chad
I do still have it on. I didn't know taking it off was common. I will 
get that off right away! Not onlly wil that give me better access to the 
beans, but I will also have access to cleaning those grounds around the 
rim. Thanks!
Chad
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10) From: Barry Luterman
After you take it off and replace the screws cover the screw heads with 
Scotch Tape. There will be no place for the beans to hang up then.

11) From: Sandy Andina
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The guy who sold me his Rocky stuffed some of those yellow foam  
earplugs in the screw holes. Works like a charm.
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Sandy
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The guy who sold me his Rocky =
stuffed some of those yellow foam earplugs in the screw holes. Works =
like a charm.
On Nov 14, 2006, at 12:33 AM, Barry Luterman =
wrote:
After you take it off and = replace the screws cover the screw heads with Scotch Tape. There will be = no place for the beans to hang up then.----- = Original Message ----- From: "Chad" <cja>To: <homeroast= s.com>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 = 8:24 PMSubject: Re: +Rocky = Hurdles I do still have it on. I didn't = know taking it off was common. I will get that off right away! Not onlly = wil that give me better access to the beans, but I will also have access = to cleaning those grounds around the rim. Thanks!Chad On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 5:49pm, = Barry Luterman wrote: Do you have the finger guard still installed? Most = of us have removed it.----- Original Message = ----- From: "Chad" <cja>To: "Sweet Marias" <homeroast= s.com>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 = 12:53 PMSubject: +Rocky = Hurdles I think I have overcome the = leftover grounds issue. I now just blow canned air through a small hole = drilled in the blue chute. This seems to work really well. However, = lately my Rocky thinks it is done when there are still whole beans in = the hopper. Its too heavy to shake so I need to stick my finger in the = hopper (motor off) and move the beans around a bit and then try again. = This sometimes takes several tries- extremely frustrating. Any = suggestions? Maybe it's the bean. I will roast some others = today.Chadhomeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings  homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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12) From: Barry Luterman
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Scotch Tape works fine. The oil and dust from the beans dry the tape out =
and make it brittle. It comes off easily when you go to clean the burrs =
every few weeks. If the foam stays in it will eventually absorb oils =
become rancid and effect your fresh coffee you are grinding. This way =
every time you clean Rocky fresh non oily tape is added.

13) From: Mark J Bergh
Please be Advised!
The finger guard, as well as other safety devices, on your Rancilio Rocky
were designed and placed to mitigate wayward fingers from entering the burr
grinding interface.
Removal is expressly verboten and will immediately void any and all
warranties.  Further, removal of safety devices will trigger GPS-Satellite
location tracking by the manufacturer (Please see the clause in your owners
manual whereby the manufacturer reserves the right to locate it's products
when misused and remove them from the user's possession).  Said product in
violation of illegal modification will be removed from the owners possession
with no further monetary compensation.
YOU (user) assume all liability for injury to self or others, whether
expressly stated or implied, that could, would, should, might occur from
attempting to use the modified equipment.
Further, Homeroast List and Forum, it's participants, moderators, and/or any
others connected with communication thereof, shall be held harmless from any
and all liability incurred by the USER (YOU) for modifications stated
herein.
In other words, keep your Gerfingerpokin under control and WE didn't tell
you to do this (WINK, WINK)!!!!
Tee, Hee 
Mark (wannabeattorney)

14) From: Barry Luterman
We don't need no stinki'n finger guards.

15) From: Sandy Andina
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However, you may remove any and all tags appended to the Rocky  
without fear of voiding the warranty. I can make no such similar  
assurances as to tags on your pillows or upholstery, however (proceed  
at your peril--bwahahahahahah!)
Sandy
(actualsemiretiredattorney)
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However, you may remove any and =
all tags appended to the Rocky without fear of voiding the warranty. I =
can make no such similar assurances as to tags on your pillows or =
upholstery, however (proceed at your =
peril--bwahahahahahah!)Sandy(actualsemiretiredattorney)Please be Advised!The =
finger guard, as well as other safety devices, on your Rancilio =
Rockywere designed and placed to =
mitigate wayward fingers from entering the burrgrinding interface.Removal =
is expressly verboten and will immediately void any and allwarranties.  =
Further, removal of safety devices will trigger =
GPS-Satellitelocation tracking by the =
manufacturer (Please see the clause in your ownersmanual whereby the manufacturer reserves the right =
to locate it's productswhen misused =
and remove them from the user's possession).  Said product inviolation of illegal modification will be removed =
from the owners possessionwith no =
further monetary compensation.YOU (user) =
assume all liability for injury to self or others, whetherexpressly stated or implied, that could, would, =
should, might occur fromattempting to =
use the modified equipment.Further, =
Homeroast List and Forum, it's participants, moderators, and/or =
anyothers connected with =
communication thereof, shall be held harmless from anyand all liability incurred by the USER (YOU) for =
modifications statedherein.
In other =
words, keep your Gerfingerpokin under control and WE didn't =
tellyou to do this (WINK, =
WINK)!!!!
Tee, =
Hee 
Mark =
(wannabeattorney)
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in] On Behalf Of ChadSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:25 PMTo: homeroast=
s.comSubject: Re: +Rocky =
Hurdles
I do still have it on. I didn't know taking it off =
was common. I will getthat off right away! Not =
onlly wil that give me better access to the beans,but I will also have access to cleaning those =
grounds around the rim.Chad
On Mon, =
13 Nov 2006 5:49pm, Barry Luterman wrote: Do you have the finger guard =
still installed? Most of us have removed 

16) From: Brett Mason
We don't need no stinki'n fingers
Brett
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17) From: David Morgenlender
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I've had my Rocky for a month or 2, and hadn't even considered doing =
that.  How
is it done?
Dave
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 and make it brittle. It comes off easily when you go to clean the burrs =
every few weeks. If the foam stays in it will eventually absorb oils =
become rancid and effect your fresh coffee you are grinding. This way =
every time you clean Rocky fresh non oily tape is added.
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earplugs in the screw holes. Works like a charm.
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with Scotch Tape. There will be no place for the beans to hang up then.
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will get that off right away! Not onlly wil that give me better access to=
 the beans, but I will also have access to cleaning those grounds around =
the rim. Thanks!
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removed it.
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 blow canned air through a small hole drilled in the blue chute. This =
seems to work really well. However, lately my Rocky thinks it is done =
when there are still whole beans in the hopper. Its too heavy to shake so=
 I need to stick my finger in the hopper (motor off) and move the beans =
around a bit and then try again. This sometimes takes several tries- =
extremely frustrating. Any suggestions? Maybe it's the bean. I will roast=
 some others today.
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18) From: Chad
The first day I got it, I just stuffed 3 beans in the 3 holes. That was 
easy.
Chad
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19) From: Barry Luterman
With pictures even.http://www.coffeegeek.com/guides/cleanrocky

20) From: Barry Luterman
They will eventually get oily and rancid

21) From: Scot Murphy
On Nov 14, 2006, at 10:30 AM, Mark J Bergh wrote:
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Rockys are built by Microsoft?
Scot "who knew" Murphy

22) From: David Morgenlender
Thanks!  Great link.  I have the doserless, but that should just make =
things
easier.
Dave
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23) From: Tara Kollas
Unless they changed the design, you can remove the screws and take it out.
Stupid thing.  If you don't know not to put your fingers into a coffee
grinder while operating, you should just stay in bed all day.  And I am an
attorney (who works for the state, so maybe it doesn't count).  I'm actually
considering clipping out the finger guard on my Macap, which doesn't seem to
pop out in an easier manner.
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24) From: Robert
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Chad
Hello, I have a Rocky also and have grown quite attached to it. It's =
interesting to note that some of your solutions to leftover grinds were =
the same as mine.  Bean stall is an occassional issue with the Rocky, my =
solution was to remove the internal burr protection cover inside the =
hopper above the feed chute (just keep your fingers out of there from =
now on, if you do). After that, stalls in bean feed are extremely rare =
and light tap will solve such if occures again.  With cover removed a =
few beans will always hang out around the 3 hopper mount screws as they =
did with the cover on, no problem, just get an expresso grounds brush =
form some where like Espressoparts.com (SM's may have them also).  It =
works great for brushing the few beans and also for brushing the few =
grounds on down at the end of the grind that hang out above the lip of =
the upper burr and in the three half-round areas above the burr chute.  =
I do this while its running, being careful not to drop the brush or push =
it down to the chute entry.  I modified mine to run continuosly from the =
main side switch or the momentry one, but use the continuous switch =
exclusively.  With an unmodified unit and on the safer side, it's easier =
just shut it it off for a second at the end, then brush out the feed =
area, followed with a final run to grind the residuals.
Another note, also with the grind chute cover removed, a few beans will =
tend to jump around or out of the chute at low velocity (not harmful) so =
YOU NEED TO USE THE LID.  But this is a good thing, as during the grind =
I take the lid and crack it an inch or so and slap it down on the top of =
the hopper about 2 or 3 times during the grid, once at the very end, =
which ejects the majority of any grinds that always build up in the =
output chute. Also good for the rare rock, though I've yet to encounter =
one  I use compressed air, with lid cracked, every ten grinds, or so on =
the in chute with lid cracked to help clean out the burr area every few =
days.
I also drilled a hole in the output down-chute cover straight across =
from the output chute so I could stick a small stiff paint brush or =
platic homemade mini-hoe(?) into the chute after unit is off, to remove =
the last little bit of grinds, as I am a stikler for leftover grinds =
myself.  Also, when slapping the lid as metioned above, I put my finger =
over the drill hole so it goes out the down-chute instead of the hole.
It sounds like a lot of work, but it's really not and it all only takes =
literally seconds, the longest part is the normal unavoidable grinding =
time.  It's real simple and there's really hardly no way to get the =
grinds that bounce back up out of the feed chute with the cover in =
place.  Hope this helps.  But you could use an espresso/grinder brush =
anyway.
I really liked the Gaggia MDF I had, which had a much better designed =
cover, beans never stalled, it was a$100.00 cheaper and built pretty =
well, but it's grind settings were less than optimal for espresso, and I =
despised the doser.  To cheap to go the Mazzer route, I bought the Rocky =
and am real happy with it.  Best bang for the buck and the optimal =
comprimise point VS dollar under the Mazzer IMO.

25) From: Angelo
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I found the perfect brush for what you are suggesting. If you go to a 
tobacconist shop, you can get a pipe cleaning brush. Its stiff 
bristles are about 1/4" and are mounted in a thin (~ 1/8") flexible 
wire handle. Here's a link if you can't find one locally. http://www.pipesforless.com/longshankbrush.htmlIf you enlarge the 
image it's actually larger than life size..
You could also use  stiff bristle pipe 
cleanershttp://www.pipesforless.com/bristapclean.htmlA+


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