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Topic: question of Gaggia (20 msgs / 340 lines)
1) From: Sheila Quinn
Hello espresso masters!!!
I have a question on the Gaggia espresso machines. The shots I've seen 
on YouTube are with what I think is a "naked portafilter" (without that 
spout) and I'm wondering if that is something I will have to buy 
separately, or do they come with it??? I think I would rather do it that 
way. It looks so cool! :)
Sorry if this is a stupid question.

2) From: Derek Bradford
You're going to have to buy a new one and have it chopped, or have
your existing one chopped.  If you're buying new, the vendor will
sometimes have it chopped for you, depending on where you buy it.
Not only do they look cool, but they're functional as well.  They let
you diagnose shot problems far easier than you otherwise have to, and
on top of that, you get more crema because the coffee is less
disturbed as it lands into your cup.  Win-win...
On 11/14/06, Sheila Quinn  wrote:
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3) From: Brett Mason
Hi Sheila,
Naked portafilters are additional items or modifications of existing items.
There is no magic to the naked portafilter.  That is, good beans + good
grind + good dosing + good tamp + good temp + good pressure = good
espresso.  You can do all this with the existing portafilter.
The naked portafilter (AKA bottomless portafilter) gives you a good clear
view of the water coming through the espresso.  That clear view is the
magic.  You will learn whether you've done all the steps right, or whether
there are defects in your method.  If you are like all of us on this list,
then there's defects in your method.
So, I wholeheartedly recommend the naked portafilter - but take some time
and read up on good espresso method.  Also read up on the naked portafilter
so you will better understand how it can help.
On 11/13/06, Sheila Quinn  wrote:

4) From: Barry Luterman
Les chops them or he used to.

5) From: Sheila Quinn
That's what I thought - just seems like I'd be able to see what is going 
on a lot easier! The videos look really good with it.
Derek Bradford wrote:

6) From: Sheila Quinn
Defects in MY method?!! Perish the thought! Hehehehe! Being someone who 
has never pulled a shot in her life, I'm sure there will be plenty of 
sink shots. I'll probably have to stand there and practice over and over 
for a while, but that's okay. Whatever it takes!
That's one of the reasons I'd rather have the naked portafilter. Seems 
like I'd be able to see things easier to know what is going on and maybe 
know how to make adjustments easier.
How much extra do they cost anyway? Any idea?
Brett Mason wrote:

7) From: Leo Zick
Ya.. But make sure to have 2.  if you ever want to pull 2 shots at once,
youll find it impossible :/

8) From: Les
I still do them.  I charge $20.00 and that includes shipping.
On 11/13/06, Barry Luterman  wrote:

9) From: Sheila Quinn
Cool - I will keep that in mind! I should be getting one in the next 
month or so. I hope!!!
Les wrote:

10) From: miKe mcKoffee
I whole heartedly agree nekkid PF great tool for diagnosing PF build
problems. Be ready for channeling spray and have a rag handy! 
But, I whole heartedly disagee nekkid PF will yield greater crema. Here's a
video of non-naked pull. I originally posted on HB to demonstrate crema from
7 day rested THEN 6 week vac frozen beans. Double shot with standard LM
basket Rancilio Pro PF with spout simply screwed off, not nekkid. My "Summer
Espresso Jam" blend, 100% Arabica. Don't need not no stinkin' Robusta for
copious crema even after a week rest than month and a half frozen!http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7510195106277647437&hl=enKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.

11) From: Derek Bradford
My statement was based on my Europiccola.  Tell you what--I'll do a
few pulls today with a naked pf and a spouted pf.  I've never actually
compared, but it has always seemed like I had more crema.  If the
videos show anything interesting, I'll post them; regardless, I'll
post the results.  I'll use Liquid Amber for the pulls.
On 11/14/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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12) From: Eddie Dove
"Defects in MY method?!! Perish the thought!"
You know, you may be onto something ... since you've never pulled a shot,
you haven't learned all of the "bad habits" ... so you will probably start
pulling perfect shots from the beginning!  At least that's the story I'm
sticking to when I get mine!
On 11/13/06, Sheila Quinn  wrote:

13) From: Eddie Dove
If we got the tools, how much is your consulting fee for advising on how to
make one naked?
On 11/13/06, Les  wrote:

14) From: Sheila Quinn
Well, we can dream, can't we? :)
Eddie Dove wrote:

15) From: Derek Bradford
Well, I've taken video of several pulls, and much to my surprise,
there is no discernible difference in crema production.
Interesting...I stand corrected.  I won't bother posting any video
because, well, there's no point.  Thanks for instigating the
test...I've been meaning to do it for some time now.
On 11/14/06, Derek Bradford  wrote:
-- http://www.novernae.comHome of the Wandering Sloth

16) From: Branden Byers
I made my bottomless portafilter for my Gaggia Espresso with a $5 hole
saw and variable speed drill. It took about ten minutes to get
through, then I smoothed out the edges and was ready to go. When I
started I was worried I wasn't going to make it but I had already
mangled my portafilter so I kept going. With that being my first
attempt at using a hole saw on metal and no clamp or vice, my hole is
slightly off center but nothing noticeable in videos or photos of my
pulls. In the end I'm so happy I did this modification.
On 11/13/06, Eddie Dove  wrote:

17) From: Mike Chester

18) From: Les
Free advice, the bimetal cutting tool cost me $45.00, and I use a drill
press followed by some hand sanding to get the burr off.
On 11/13/06, Eddie Dove  wrote:

19) From: Brian Kamnetz
Should the entire bottom be cut out, or should there be just a bit of a
shelf left?
On 11/14/06, Les  wrote:

20) From: Les
On a Gaggia you want the whole bottom cut out so a triple basket can fit.
On 11/14/06, Brian Kamnetz  wrote:

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