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Topic: delicate situation for Turkey Day (10 msgs / 496 lines)
1) From: Sandy Andina
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We were invited to a friend's tiny apartment for Thanksgiving dinner,  
after he realized that since he had invited our best friends (who  
usually spend the day with us, and who had accepted thinking we'd be  
there) without asking us, we would be all alone for the holiday.  We  
are supplementing his Jennie-O turkey breast roll with some BBQ  
drumsticks and a honey-baked ham; he asked for champagne (which we  
agreed to bring) and mashed potatoes (we eat low carb, so our friends  
are making those and we're bringing some greens and sugar-free  
cranberry relish). I volunteered (generously, or so I thought) to  
roast some coffee beans and bring them. He replied that I should not  
bring any coffee since (and I quote): "I still have some of your Kona  
and espresso from last year I need to kill off, so please don't bring  
any more."
There is NO WAY I am going to drink year-old coffee, much less  
preground espresso from a steam toy that he hasn't cleaned since he  
used it last year.  I wrote him back that no offense, but it would be  
kindest for all concerned for him to "kill off" his current stash by  
bypassing any brewing equipment and discarding it. I told him that it  
is no hardship for me to roast some fresh coffee; and that I wouldn't  
serve stale coffee and he should not have to. Am I out of line here?
Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com
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We were invited to a friend's =
tiny apartment for Thanksgiving dinner, after he realized that since he =
had invited our best friends (who usually spend the day with us, and who =
had accepted thinking we'd be there) without asking us, we would be all =
alone for the holiday.  We are supplementing his Jennie-O turkey =
breast roll with some BBQ drumsticks and a honey-baked ham; he asked for =
champagne (which we agreed to bring) and mashed potatoes (we eat low =
carb, so our friends are making those and we're bringing some greens and =
sugar-free cranberry relish). I volunteered (generously, or so I =
thought) to roast some coffee beans and bring them. He replied that I =
should not bring any coffee since (and I quote): "I still have some of =
your Kona and espresso from last year I need to kill off, so please =
don't bring any more."
There is NO WAY I am going = to drink year-old coffee, much less preground espresso from a steam toy = that he hasn't cleaned since he used it last year.  I wrote him back = that no offense, but it would be kindest for all concerned for him to = "kill off" his current stash by bypassing any brewing equipment and = discarding it. I told him that it is no hardship for me to roast some = fresh coffee; and that I wouldn't serve stale coffee and he should not = have to. Am I out of line here? Sandywww.sass-music.com
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2) From: Ed Needham
Some people used to storebought sawdust coffee truly believe that coffee has 
a half life of like 500 years since their regular preground loses no flavor 
over time.  What they don't know is that it has no flavor to lose.
If they insist, then drink all the coffee you want at home before you go, 
and enjoy your friends.
*********************
Ed Needham®
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com(include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters)
*********************

3) From: Brett Mason
Just don't slay hi Sandy.  He is merely barbaric, lost in the prehistoric
culture of non-coffee drinking...
Just came back from Avila's El Rancito - great Mexican food, and better
Cadillac Margaritas.  Followed up with a run to Trader Joe's... I now have 4
more bottles of Santa Ynez Chardonnay - the best value in the store...  We
killed off three bottles last night, plus a botle of Viognier...
I may miss the Turkey, but the libations will continue...  Colombia
Excelso+Guatamala Fraijanes in the morning...  Who could ask for anything
more?
Be Nice Sandy, he doesn't know better.........
Brett
On 11/22/06, Sandy Andina  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

4) From: Michael Dhabolt
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5) From: miKe mcKoffee
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Hmmm he asked you to bring champagne. Maybe explain how you feel about
coffee freshness using an analogy. Compare him drinking champagne for
Thanksgiving THAT WAS OPENED LAST THANKSGIVING to you drinking stale year
old coffee. Let him know he's welcome to drink what you brought last year
but you'd prefer to drink current roast stock. Maybe even bring your own
press pot or ? and manual grinder if you have one. I would, and do. Just
don't leave any coffee this year!
 
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee 
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc: http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm
Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Sandy Andina
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:26 PM
We were invited to a friend's tiny apartment for Thanksgiving dinner, after
he realized that since he had invited our best friends (who usually spend
the day with us, and who had accepted thinking we'd be there) without asking
us, we would be all alone for the holiday. We are supplementing his Jennie-O
turkey breast roll with some BBQ drumsticks and a honey-baked ham; he asked
for champagne (which we agreed to bring) and mashed potatoes (we eat low
carb, so our friends are making those and we're bringing some greens and
sugar-free cranberry relish). I volunteered (generously, or so I thought) to
roast some coffee beans and bring them. He replied that I should not bring
any coffee since (and I quote): "I still have some of your Kona and espresso
from last year I need to kill off, so please don't bring any more." 
There is NO WAY I am going to drink year-old coffee, much less preground
espresso from a steam toy that he hasn't cleaned since he used it last year.
I wrote him back that no offense, but it would be kindest for all concerned
for him to "kill off" his current stash by bypassing any brewing equipment
and discarding it. I told him that it is no hardship for me to roast some
fresh coffee; and that I wouldn't serve stale coffee and he should not have
to. Am I out of line here? 
Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com

6) From: Lynne
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Sandy, no I don't believe you are out of line at all. I cringed when I =
read that line - "I still have some of your Kona and espresso from last =
year..."
AAARRGGHH!!!!
Boy, I was frustrated when a good friend told me she still had the 
beans I roasted for her some two or three months before. I gently 
explained that they go stale...
I know you wouldn't do it... but do you feel like asking him if the 
turkey is from last year, too???
; > )
Lynne
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Sandy, no I don't believe you are out of line at all. I cringed when I
read that line - "I still have some of your Kona and espresso from
last year..."
AAARRGGHH!!!!
Boy, I was frustrated when a good friend told me she still had the
beans I roasted for her some two or three months before. I gently
explained that they go stale...
I know you wouldn't do it... but do you feel like asking him if the
turkey is from last year, too???
; > )
Lynne
On Nov 22, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Sandy Andina wrote:
We were invited to a friend's tiny apartment for Thanksgiving
dinner, after he realized that since he had invited our best friends
(who usually spend the day with us, and who had accepted thinking we'd
be there) without asking us, we would be all alone for the holiday. 
We are supplementing his Jennie-O turkey breast roll with some BBQ
drumsticks and a honey-baked ham; he asked for champagne (which we
agreed to bring) and mashed potatoes (we eat low carb, so our friends
are making those and we're bringing some greens and sugar-free
cranberry relish). I volunteered (generously, or so I thought) to
roast some coffee beans and bring them. He replied that I should not
bring any coffee since (and I quote): "I still have some of your Kona
and espresso from last year I need to kill off, so please don't bring
any more."
There is NO WAY I am going to drink year-old coffee, much less
preground espresso from a steam toy that he hasn't cleaned since he
used it last year.  I wrote him back that no offense, but it would be
kindest for all concerned for him to "kill off" his current stash by
bypassing any brewing equipment and discarding it. I told him that it
is no hardship for me to roast some fresh coffee; and that I wouldn't
serve stale coffee and he should not have to. Am I out of line here?
Lucida =
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7) From: Sandy Andina
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He's already warned me that he no longer drinks coffee at home except  
for company or for making iced coffee in summer, and I am welcome to  
take home the leftovers lest I want to consign them to languish in  
his freezer. So I'm bringing 1/4 lb. ea. Sumatra Iskandar Triple Pick  
and Idido Misty Valley. We shall see how they work out.  He has  
promised to clean out the auto-drip pot.
On Nov 23, 2006, at 1:54 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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Sandy
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www.sass-music.com
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He's already warned me that he =
no longer drinks coffee at home except for company or for making iced =
coffee in summer, and I am welcome to take home the leftovers lest I =
want to consign them to languish in his freezer. So I'm bringing 1/4 lb. =
ea. Sumatra Iskandar Triple Pick and Idido Misty Valley. We shall see =
how they work out.  He has promised to clean out the auto-drip =
pot.
On Nov 23, 2006, at 1:54 AM, miKe mcKoffee =
wrote:
Hmmm he asked you to bring champagne. Maybe explain how you = feel about coffee freshness using an analogy. Compare him drinking = champagne for Thanksgiving THAT WAS OPENED LAST THANKSGIVING to you = drinking stale year old coffee. Let him know he's welcome to drink what = you brought last year but you'd prefer to drink current roast stock. = Maybe even bring your own press pot or ? and manual grinder if you have = one. I would, and do. Just don't leave any coffee this = year!   Kona Konnaisseur miKe = mcKoffee URL = to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc: http://mdmint=.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm Ultimately the quest for Koffee = Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in = knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the = many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone = before. From: = homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-adm= in] On Behalf Of Sandy = Andina Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:26 = PM We were invited to a friend's tiny = apartment for Thanksgiving dinner, after he realized that since he had = invited our best friends (who usually spend the day with us, and who = had accepted thinking we'd be there) without asking us, we would be = all alone for the holiday. We are supplementing his Jennie-O turkey = breast roll with some BBQ drumsticks and a honey-baked ham; he asked = for champagne (which we agreed to bring) and mashed potatoes (we eat = low carb, so our friends are making those and we're bringing some greens = and sugar-free cranberry relish). I volunteered (generously, or so I = thought) to roast some coffee beans and bring them. He replied that I = should not bring any coffee since (and I quote): "I still have some of = your Kona and espresso from last year I need to kill off, so please = don't bring any more."
= There is NO WAY I am going to drink year-old coffee, much less = preground espresso from a steam toy that he hasn't cleaned since he = used it last year. I wrote him back that no offense, but it would be = kindest for all concerned for him to "kill off" his current stash by = bypassing any brewing equipment and discarding it. I told him that it = is no hardship for me to roast some fresh coffee; and that I wouldn't = serve stale coffee and he should not have to. Am I out of line here? = Sandy www.sandyandina.comwww.sass-music.com Sandywww.sass-music.com
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8) From: Aaron
I have had a few friends keep coffee past it's prime.  I explain to them 
that it really needs to be drank within a month or so (giving them the 
benefit of the doubt even though I know it's going stale already).
I don't know how well you know your friends, or what level of abuse :) 
you frequently share upon each other. (my friends, anytime we find a 
chance to rip the other we do but some folks are a bit more 
civilized).   Given this, might want to be very careful about bringing 
your own setup etc etc...and how you approach it if it's a more 
'sensitive' friendship  don't want to cause a 'oh look at this bitch'... 
my coffee isn't good enough for her??... @#$% her if she thinks Ill 
invite her next thanksgiving!! situation to happen.
Feelings have been hurt over much smaller things, and the holiday 
seasons ARE the time of year for the biggest feuds, since you are all 
together and all...
Hate to see you strain a friendship over a cup of coffee, and besides, 
before you started roasting your own, and knew better  you'd have drank 
that coffee in a minute and probably not thought a thing about it.
Now if you bring your own, and hand it to her with a comment like, Oh I 
don't want you drinking that old stale crap, here, here's some new 
coffee, since you are going through all the trouble of making a 
wonderful meal, you need wonderful fresh coffee to go with it, you 
probably will get away with the snobbery a bit easier.
Good luck and enjoy the turkey,
Aaron who gets to work today,

9) From: Leo Zick
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Bring an open bottle of champagne :D
On Nov 22, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Sandy Andina wrote:
We were invited to a friend's tiny apartment for Thanksgiving dinner, after
he realized that since he had invited our best friends (who usually spend
the day with us, and who had accepted thinking we'd be there) without asking
us, we would be all alone for the holiday.  We are supplementing his
Jennie-O turkey breast roll with some BBQ drumsticks and a honey-baked ham;
he asked for champagne (which we agreed to bring) and mashed potatoes (we
eat low carb, so our friends are making those and we're bringing some greens
and sugar-free cranberry relish). I volunteered (generously, or so I
thought) to roast some coffee beans and bring them. He replied that I should
not bring any coffee since (and I quote): "I still have some of your Kona
and espresso from last year I need to kill off, so please don't bring any
more."
There is NO WAY I am going to drink year-old coffee, much less preground
espresso from a steam toy that he hasn't cleaned since he used it last year.
I wrote him back that no offense, but it would be kindest for all concerned
for him to "kill off" his current stash by bypassing any brewing equipment
and discarding it. I told him that it is no hardship for me to roast some
fresh coffee; and that I wouldn't serve stale coffee and he should not have
to. Am I out of line here?
Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
www.sass-music.com

10) From: george
.... un-corked from last New Years Eve party and 
forgotten about until now.
On 23 Nov 2006 at 8:19, Leo Zick wrote:
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