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Topic: AeroPress Problem (44 msgs / 727 lines)
1) From: Mike Denson
This morning I ground 2 scoops of Costa Rican as course as possible in
my grinder.  Put it into my AeroPress, poured the hot water over the
grounds, and proceeded to "try" to press the water through.  It was (and
always has been) very, very hard to press.  While the instructions (both
Tom's and AP's) say to press gently, there is no way.  I finally put the
cup into the sink at put my weight (220 lbs) behind it, and managed to
get the plunger to the bottom.  This has always been the case,
regardless of the fineness of the grind.  I use a single filter and
follow the directions.  The coffee tasted fine, but what am I doing
wrong in the process?  Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks,
Mike

2) From: RK
My aero press is very stiff also, I just push hard enough to move the 
plunger slowly (to allow air to escape) untillit bottoms out.
RK

3) From: MichaelB
Mike,
No matter how coarse you grind, if your grinder produces dust or fines along
with your chosen grind, that can clog the filter and produce the symptoms
you describe.
On 11/26/06, Mike Denson  wrote:
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4) From: Peter Zulkowski
What kind of grinder are you using? Sounds to me like it is making a lot 
of dust :(
PeterZ
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5) From: Scott Marquardt
I concur with the notion of dust from the grinder. However, I don't know of
many grinders that produce excessive dust when set at their coarsest.
Ironically, I'd suggest trying a whirly. Grind for 8-10 seconds. See how
that compares. Or try a different burr grinder.
- S
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6) From: Demian Ebert
I don't know about Mike, but I grind in my Rocky for my AP and it takes a
pretty good push to get the plunger down as well. Coffee always tastes fine
too.
Demian
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7) From: Scott Petersen
MichaelB wrote:
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I have to agree with this. I just this last week got a Mazzer Mini as a
Christmas gift. (My wife couldn't wait, bless her.)  It was an upgrade
from a Kitchen Aid A9 grinder. This is the tall burr grinder, not the
pro. My primary brewing method is the Aeropress. The first morning, I
ground my coffee to a medium grind and into the Aeropress it went. When
I pushed the plunger I noticed that it was a LOT easier to push. I
initially attributed this to the fact that I had ground too coarsely as
I wasn't used to the Mini. The coffee still tasted great. The next day I
ground finer and the plunger was marginally harder to press but still
not as hard as with the Kitchen Aid. However, when I tried the coffee I
found that it was quite bitter from over extraction. What this told me
is that the Kitchen Aid was producing a lot of dust.
Cheers
Scott Petersen

8) From: raymanowen
"The coffee tasted fine"
So? And you would rather have...
It's your machine, just don't make the females think they'll need an
arbor press or hydraulic jack to use it.
"press gently" and "press with all your might" sounds more like a
chiropractor doing kinesiology testing.
Isolate the problem. Can you get it to move with gentle pressure when
there's no coffee at all or just whole beans in it? If the former
works, the coffee will resemble McDreck, while the latter will end
your grinder problems forever.
You might purchase some whole bean coffee and have it ground to the
consistency of gravel, or just get the smallest can of F* preground
[Their industrial grinders are excellent].
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
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9) From: Angelo
The other guys are probably correct about the dust. One way to get 
around this (until you get a good grinder :-) ) is to use the inverted method.
Put the plunger in about a 1/2" and turn the whole upside.
Put in your coffee, hot water
Stir
Screw one the cap with the filter inside
Begin pushing down gently until you see some of the mixture come up 
through the filter and cap.
Flip the unit over, put it on a mug and press.
It might be just as difficult to push, but you won't have to push it 
for as long. I also think that you might not have as much trouble 
since the dust would hove fallen to the bottom of the slurry, which 
is now the top. Get it?
Others here might have a variation or two concerning how they perform 
this maneuver.
A+
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10) From: Eddie Dove
You're lucky ... my wife is still holding everything hostage for Christmas
day ...
Eddie
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11) From: David Morgenlender
It's the same with me.
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12) From: raymanowen
If your headlights are aimed high, you probably irritate oncoming traffic or
the guy you're following, whatever your speed.
My first grinder after the weed whackers was the well-known (to those who
know it well) comical burr grinder. It produced excess dust if and only if
two simultaneous conditions were met:
   1. It had coffee beans in it, and
   2. The bloody thing was running.
(2. Applies equally well to the headlights- they're not mis-aimed if they're
off.)
I know what you're thinking. You "don't know of many grinders that produce
excessive dust when set at their coarsest." What's that got to do with my
headlights?
What makes the beams of light in front of your car at night? Headlights. Bad
beams = bad headlights.
What makes dust come out of your grinder? Could be the beans. Could be the
burrs. Ummm-
If the beans make the dust, they'll do it even if the burrs are set to
Leichtenstein.
If dust is caused by crummy burrs, they'll always do it- Touch Beans, Make
Dust Touch Beans, Make Dust...
QED
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?

13) From: Scott Marquardt
Not sure of that. Dust would be like the outer, diffuse portion of your
headlight beam. Coarseness, then, would be analogous to focus. "I don't know
how many headlights produce a lot of scattered light to the side when
they're narrowly focused."
I want a set of analytical sieves. Seriously.
- S
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14) From: raymanowen
The Colorado School of Mines Research Institute had scores of Ro-Tap
screens. The tap, tap, tapping could drive a person nuts- especially when
checking some Pilot Plant instrumentation where several were running...
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Got grinder?

15) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
like other people, the only think I can think of is that your coarse 
grind has a lot of fines (fine powdery particles) too, and that is 
clogging it. -Tom
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16) From: Steve Barber
I am having trouble with my new Aeropress. I tried to use it this morning
and it just ruined my favorite Styrofoam cup. I had that cup for about two
years. It was personalized. I had written my name on the side of it and
everything. I would just rinse it out when I was done and it was perfectly
"seasoned". I am so disappointed. What should I do?
Thanks for any help you can give....Is there any help for me?
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17) From: Steve Barber
I originally sent this a few days ago but it never hit the list. Guess there
must have been a cyber hiccup out there somewhere. I hate to think of my
post just wandering out there forever so I am going to try to resubmit
it......as an experiment of course just to see if it shows up or becomes
another post withour a home. An orphan post...how sad.
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18) From: Dave Huddle
"What should I do?"
You should provide a spew alert with a post such as this!
Dave
Westerville, OH
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19) From: Peter Genuardi
Hey Steve -
1. I think there's some weird behavior with gmail, which doesn't display a
new message notification when you personally send something to the list.
I've been confused with it in the past, too, but others assure me my
messages get through.
2. I can't believe you've used the same styrofoam cup for so long.  Aren't
you afraid of the leeching of weird chemicals from the plastic?
 - Peter
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20) From: Ira
At 07:27 AM 9/20/2008, you wrote:
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Well, if I had that problem I'd head to Home depot and find a piece 
of PVC pipe or a pipe fitting that the cup just fits inside of that's 
within 0 to 1/8" taller and use that to rest the Aeropress on.
Ira
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21) From: Steve Barber
Too late for the pipe fitting....my cup is smashed flat! Maybe next time.
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22) From: Bill
I think I'd mourn for several months.  Coffee-less, of course.  And then I
would get another styrofoam cup and start again...
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23) From: David Martin
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Steve Barber  wrote:
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That's a tough one. Burial is not a good idea, since it's Styrofoam,
and therefore not biodegradable. But cremation would be even worse,
since, if I'm not mistaken, polystyrene emits toxic fumes when burned.
I suggest reincarnation; do you have curb-side recycling?
-Dave
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24) From: Peter Genuardi
Why not just eat the thing?
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25) From: Tim TenClay
I think you should go pseudo-paper...http://www.wearehappytoserveyou.com/Grace and Peace,
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26) From: David Morrow
I just hate it when that happens!  Here was my solution:http://www.dcigift.com/product.cfm?productIDv3&catIDYou really need a marker to doodle on the side, though.
Dave Morrow

27) From: kevin creason
Is this Steve, or is this <...> in my office? Wow, did she make a mess with
a styro cup the second time she tried to learn the AP. Then there was the
time she put the grounds in the cup; so I gave her a spoon for her soup...
but she's got the hang of it now.
;)
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28) From: Dean De Crisce
that is so funny...i did that with a styrofoam cup in a
hotel...grounds all over...what a mess. now i bring only stainless
steel.
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29) From: Steve Barber
I don't remember there being a warning....Danger! Do not use with stryrofoam
cup. You could smush your cup and ruin your day!
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30) From: Bill
my travel pack has an enamel cup in it... figured that'll be pretty durable
without being stainless or plastic.  i don't like either of those, i taste
the cup too much.
this is similar to what i have:http://www.rei.com/product/401162have APed into a styro cup before... tough to hold a plastic cylinder that's
200F while also pressing... but doable.
peace
bill
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31) From: Sandy Andina
I've seen Scott Marquardt AP'ing into a paper cup, which, IIRC, was a  
rigid PVC sleeve on which the AP itself rested.  I always pack a rigid  
travel mug or a pourover with paper or Swissgold filter just in case  
there are only soft cups in my motel room.
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32) From: Seth Grandeau
The timing of this thread was perfect.  I was making a friend at work a
double sumatra classic mandheling and he handed me a styrofoam cup.  Having
read this warning, I held the base firmly as I pressed the plunger.  No
damage!
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33) From: Steve Barber
Actually, I was just being funny or trying to be. I was yanking your
chain. I didn't really try to AP into styrofoam. But eating the cup would be
an option. I really do love that cup that looks like faom but isnt. Faux
foam. It even has one of those topper deals...now that is class! Do you
really think that if I had a marker I could write "Bubba" on the side?
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34) From: John Despres
Bwahahaha!
Thanks.
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35) From: Brian Kamnetz
Steve,
I was trying to decide if you were joking or not... We don't know you
that well yet, so it was hard to tell. We know you better now!
Glad to hear that you are getting good use from your AP.
Brian
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36) From: Steve Barber
I really do love the AP.....it is fast and cleans up quickly and the cup
tastes good. I have several options to brew but I like the AP the best.
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37) From: Seth Grandeau
I would not call it my favorite, but it is now indispensible for me.  So
much easier than other options when I just want a single cup, or an iced
coffee, or I'm at work.  So maybe it's #2 on my list. :)
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38) From: Steve Barber
Seth,
What is your #1 favorite method?
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39) From: Seth Grandeau
Capresso CoffeeTEC thermal carafe drip.  It's the easiest method at my
disposal, makes the most coffee, and leaves me with a carafe of coffee that
will stay warm for hours.  I tend to use it week day mornings, when I don't
have time for anything else, or weekends, when I want to sit outside and
enjoy coffee over a few leasurely hours of reading the Sunday paper.
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40) From: Steve Barber
Do you have that frother thingy with it? Do you ever use it? Does it work?
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41) From: Seth Grandeau
I do have the frother and it does work.  I couldn't call it microfoam, but
I've never mastered that anyway.  It does much better than I've done, so
far, with a steam wand, and clean up is a breeze, just run water through
it.
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42) From: Steve Barber
Thanks Seth....I was just wondering about it. Easy clean up is a must for
me. I guess that is why I use my AP so much. I have a Cuisinart drip brewer.
It does a pretty fair job. You can set the warmer temp - I always use low. I
really haven't had any that tastes burnt or anything as far as I can tell,
but I usually dont leave it on warm. I drink it or pour it in a thermos.
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43) From: Seth Grandeau
Now you've got me thinking that I should try AP + Froth XPress for a poor
man's latte. :)
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44) From: Justin Marquez
"Better latte than never...."
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Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
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