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Topic: stove top espresso? (41 msgs / 1540 lines)
1) From: Renee Perry
Ok, I know it's not really espresso, but does anyone on the list have an 
opinion about the Moka Pots onthe Sm website?
Thanks,
Renee

2) From: Mike Garfias
I'm still slumming with the 10 Tasse moka.
Yes, its not espresso, but it does a damn good job of making coffee.
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3) From: scott miller
I'm very pleased with my 6 cup Bialetti. Should this one die, I'll buy
another. I've been using my a couple times a week for a year now. The usage
and cleanup is dead simple and the results are excellent.
cheers,
Scott
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I got the middle one off the sale page before they sold out.  I  
remember them from when I was growing up and it was something my  
parents played with when dad was traveling alot to italy.  Works just  
the same as I remember and creates yet another way to enjoy coffee ..
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creates yet another way to enjoy coffee ..
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5) From: Jared Andersson
I love my Moka Pot from SM's.  It is what every espresso wantabe should have
until they can afford a proper grinder and espresso machine.  Cheap,
delicious, easy and dependable.  This is a must have in your coffee
arsenal.  If I could not have my mazzer grinder and Isomac Tea espresso
machine it is what I would use.    Jared
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6) From: John F Coffey
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Dennis,
Check out sweet maria's site on moka pots.  Like most things they  
sell they have a great tip sheet on how to use one.
--John
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7) From: Lynne
Moka pots make WONDERFUL coffee - and Bialetti, which SM carries, is an 
excellent brand.
I have a teeny Moka pot I got at a local store at a very good price 
(which was pure serendipity, because I couldn't afford more than the 
pennies I spent). I was very, very lucky that it is good quality - not 
Bialetti, but it's a similar good Italian quality.
There are many versions of the worst quality Moka pots out there -avoid 
them at all costs. Bialetti is good.
Lynne
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8) From: Lynne
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Dennis, it's really simple. My Moka pot has two little dots on the 
inside (basically it's slightly under where the basket will fall when 
you insert it). Fill the water to that point (O.K., I usually go over, =
but I blame these aged eyes for that).
I grind the coffee quite fine - someone on this list once said to grind =
it just larger than the holes in the basket. Since I make 'Americano' 
type cups by adding hot water, I actually heat the water in my tea 
kettle while I grind by hand - then add that hot water to the bottom 
section - that's not necessary, just speeds things up for impatient me.
The amt of coffee I use - I fill the basket to make a bit of a mound. 
Keep the heat low, and it is done when the steam (and sound) stops.
Easy - and really, really good coffee.
Lynne
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Dennis, it's really simple. My Moka pot has two little dots on the
inside (basically it's slightly under where the basket will fall when
you insert it). Fill the water to that point (O.K., I usually go over,
but I blame these aged eyes for that).
I grind the coffee quite fine - someone on this list once said to
grind it just larger than the holes in the basket. Since I make
'Americano' type cups by adding hot water, I actually heat the water
in my tea kettle while I grind by hand - then add that hot water to
the bottom section - that's not necessary, just speeds things up for
impatient me.
The amt of coffee I use - I fill the basket to make a bit of a mound.
Keep the heat low, and it is done when the steam (and sound) stops.
Easy - and really, really good coffee.
Lynne
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Dennis,
Check out sweet maria's site on moka pots.  Like most things they sell
they have a great tip sheet on how to use one.
--John
On Nov 27, 2006, at 10:18 AM, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69) wrote:
Are there directions on how to use a MOKA POT?
I am trying to figure it out never having seen one in use.
Thanks,
Dennis
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"Direct support for troops on the ground is only a call away in support
of Operation Eagle!"
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an
opinion about the Moka Pots onthe Sm website?
Thanks,
Renee
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9) From: Vicki Smith
I added a 9 cup Bialetti to my coffee pot collection on this trip. I 
hadn't planned the purchase, but a friend of mine broke her KMB carafe, 
and I left mine with her so she wouldn't waste away whilst waiting for 
the replacement one to arrive.
I felt virtuous and somewhat deprived, even though the Bialetti makes a 
mighty fine cup of joe.
It's not really comparable to anything else--it's its own thing. If I 
had to pick something, I'd say it is more like aeropress coffee than it 
is like *real* espresso.
vicki
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10) From: john nanavati
I enjoy my Moka pot quite a bit. It's easy to use and has predictable and
repeatable results.
I recently purchased a Brikka but am having some trouble - it kept exploding
coffee all over my kitchen. I haven't gotten the Brikka in the groove but
hope to soon.
John Nanavati
Plainfield, New Jersey

11) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Are there directions on how to use a MOKA POT?
I am trying to figure it out never having seen one in use.
Thanks,
Dennis
Dennis
AKA
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True
CS/CS-5
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69)
FPO AE 09532-2830
HG/DB and Z&D roasting in the Indian Ocean
 "On station and on point 159 and counting down..." 
"Direct support for troops on the ground is only a call away in support
of Operation Eagle!"
Ok, I know it's not really espresso, but does anyone on the list have an
opinion about the Moka Pots onthe Sm website?
Thanks,
Renee

12) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
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John,
    
    Alas I wish I could I have been unable to access the internet since
1 November due to operational commitments (they need the bandwith for
other tasks) 
 
Dennis 
AKA 
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True 
CS/CS-5 
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) 
FPO AE 09532-2830 
Man of many hats! 
HG/DB and Z&D roasting in the Indian Ocean 
 "On station and on point 157 and counting down..." 
"Direct support for troops on the ground is only a call away in support
of Operation Eagle!"

13) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
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What other brewing method is it comparable to? espresso? I will have to
buy one when I get home and add it to my growing list of brewing
methods! only 157 days and counting down!!! Thanks for the info I
appreciate it! 
 
Dennis 
AKA 
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True 
CS/CS-5 
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) 
FPO AE 09532-2830 
Man of many hats! 
HG/DB and Z&D roasting in the Indian Ocean 
 "On station and on point 157 and counting down..." 
"Direct support for troops on the ground is only a call away in support
of Operation Eagle!" 
 
 
Dennis, it's really simple. My Moka pot has two little dots on the
inside (basically it's slightly under where the basket will fall when
you insert it). Fill the water to that point (O.K., I usually go over,
but I blame these aged eyes for that). 
I grind the coffee quite fine - someone on this list once said to grind
it just larger than the holes in the basket. Since I make 'Americano'
type cups by adding hot water, I actually heat the water in my tea
kettle while I grind by hand - then add that hot water to the bottom
section - that's not necessary, just speeds things up for impatient me. 
The amt of coffee I use - I fill the basket to make a bit of a mound.
Keep the heat low, and it is done when the steam (and sound) stops. 
Easy - and really, really good coffee. 
Lynne 
On Nov 27, 2006, at 3:30 PM, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69) wrote: 
John, 
    
    Alas I wish I could I have been unable to access the internet since
1 November due to operational commitments (they need the bandwith for
other tasks) 
Dennis 
AKA 
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True 
CS/CS-5 
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) 
FPO AE 09532-2830 
Man of many hats! 
HG/DB and Z&D roasting in the Indian Ocean 
 "On station and on point 157 and counting down..." 
"Direct support for troops on the ground is only a call away in support
of Operation Eagle!"

14) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Oh now I'm even more interested...
Next Question how do you make Turkish coffee?
Dennis
AKA
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True
CS/CS-5
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69)
FPO AE 09532-2830
Man of many hats!
HG/DB and Z&D roasting in the Indian Ocean
 "On station and on point 157 and counting down..." 
"Direct support for troops on the ground is only a call away in support
of Operation Eagle!"
I added a 9 cup Bialetti to my coffee pot collection on this trip. I 
hadn't planned the purchase, but a friend of mine broke her KMB carafe, 
and I left mine with her so she wouldn't waste away whilst waiting for 
the replacement one to arrive.
I felt virtuous and somewhat deprived, even though the Bialetti makes a 
mighty fine cup of joe.
It's not really comparable to anything else--it's its own thing. If I 
had to pick something, I'd say it is more like aeropress coffee than it 
is like *real* espresso.
vicki

15) From: michael brown
Hey Friends,
I bought a "Stove Top" espresso on a whim the other day at the grocery store.  I'm not sure if the awful coffee i'm getting out of it is what i should expect from such a contraption.  i've played with it, adjusting the grind, even tamping versus untamping, grind volume, etc...  From what i gathered, the screen/holes on the "portafilter?" are way too large to use a true espresso grind, so should i try a reg grind for drip makers?  should i try tamping it?  basically i'm asking if anyone on the list has a stovetop maker and what's your method?  thanks so much!
Michael B 
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16) From: Kris McN
Hey Michael,
Can you describe this contraption?  Is it a moka pot?  Or some other version
of the stove-top genre?  If it's a moka pot, then a LOT has been written on
this list about appropriate methods (search the archives with "moka pot" in
the subject and you'll see).  In short, you should be getting delicious
nectar, not dreck.  Moka pot was my go-to method before La P came into my
life.  If it's something else, on the other hand.... maybe someone can chime
in.
Best,
Kris McN
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17) From: raymanowen
Many have more experience than I have, but Tamp not lest ye be known as a
Tamperer. Besides, the directions...
For yesterday's Moka pot, I ground too fine and brewed way too fast. I
didn't realize the stove top element was that hot. At least, it won't
"Implode" when the heat's cranked and the water is low.
Awful coffee is by no means endemic to the Moka pot/ Stovetop "espresso"
maker. Try for a total coffee rise time of at least 3:00 minutes, then
coarse grind. Much toward Drip than espresso grind.
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18) From: michael brown
Oh My Gosh! All This Time i Thought A moka Pot Was Something Totally Different. I've Skimmed Right Over All Those Discussions. I've Got A Lot Of Reading To Do! Sorry For My Ignorance. Thanks For Pointing This Out!

19) From:
Many people here have and love a 'moka pot'...first developed by bialetti...if that is what you have.
There is a guide on the SM site involving tips when using it. I have a stainless steel one. What I now do is use a grind around what I use for the aeropress...finer than drip but larger than espresso (18 on the Rocky with 5 as true zero). I fill but do not tamp. I add hot water from my espresso machine water tap...and then put on the stove. I cut the gas when the coffee begins to sputter.
Makes for a very nice clean...but strong cup. Try different settings and play with it til you find what works for you.
Dean De Crisce
Sent from a Treo phone

20) From: Joseph Robertson
Is one of the problems with these units is that it boils the water?
JoeR
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21) From: raymanowen
"...one of the problems with these units is that it boils the water"
Problem? Boiling doesn't hurt the water, just gets it up to the brewing
temperature and gives the water enough energy to bubble up through the
coffee grounds.
After a suitable dwell time to extract the grounds, bubble on up the stand
pipe and overflow into the coffee chamber.
No problems unless you dislike the resulting nectar. You got the whole cup
in your hands- it's kinda automatic, the way it works. Not automatically
good... I got this checklist!
Cheers, 'Buhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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22) From: Brian Kamnetz
Joe,
I watch the moka pot very closely, and as soon as coffee starts to
ooze from the stem I cut the heat way down, just enough to keep the
coffee barely oozing. So the water never boils, just barely gets hot
enough to produce enough vapor to force a little water through the
grounds and up through the stem.
Ray did some temp testing a while back comparing "ooze" temp with the
temp of water allowed to get hot enough to shoot through the stem. If
I recall correctly (and I'm not guaranteeing that I do) he found a
couple degrees difference.
Brian
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23) From: Joseph Robertson
Thanks Brian and Ray,
I had a customer complaining so now I can explain in better terms what
is going on. I personally enjoyed this unit for many years. My problem
is I open my mouth or run off at the fingers so to speak before I have
enough information. Thanks Ray for the testing. I need one of those
Fluke's and thermoprobes...
JoeR
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24) From: jeff michel
I now fill my pot with boiling water to cut down the time the pot  
needs to stand on the burner.
Seems to produce a "better" cup. Harder to put the pot together  
though...
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25) From: Joseph Robertson
Ahhhhh,
gloves on before breakfast. Or at least one glove, pot holder,
.......I like it though. I'll do anything to improve the cup.
Daaa, almost anything.
JoeR
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26) From: michael brown
**UPDATE**
Okay, after reading tom's notes and some list suggestions, here's what i di=
d.  i poured the water in, just off of boil.  Used a grind between what i u=
se for espresso and for the drip coffee maker (on a virtuoso).  it was a bi=
t tricky screwing on the top while holding onto the bottom with a dish rag.=
  then put on the eye on medium heat.  total brew time was three minutes.  =
once it really got bubbling i cut the heat down a smidge.  this time the re=
sulting coffee tasted "flat"  But when i unscrewed the bottom i was shocked=
!  the grounds definitely expanded!  i filled the beans to the "fill line" =
and when i unscrewed the bottom it was all compressed to the top!  and it c=
ertainly didn't come out as a "puck" as i would have expected.  so what do =
i do next?  adjust the grind?  i'm guessing finer?  thanks guys and gals!
Michael B
b'ham, AL
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27) From: Angelo
Maybe you could use an air filter wrench?
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28) From: Brian Kamnetz
Jeff,
I too pour heated water into the bottom pot, but have developed a
simple system that makes it all much easier.
I have a silicone pad that I lay on the counter. I set the pot on the
silicone pad and pour in the hot water. I moisten the gasket on the
top part (for lubrication) and screw the top part onto the bottom pot,
which is easy because the bottom pot doesn't slide very easily on the
silicone pad. Then I use the top part (which isn't hot yet) to pick up
the assembled unit. I grasp the bottom pot with the silicone pad and a
good twist tightens the unit. Sure is a lot easier than when I used to
try to use towels.
Brian
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29) From: jeff michel
Great idear! (whoops, from the east coast ;))
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30) From: Kris McN
Michael,
I use a grind about 2/3 of the way to espresso on the drip --> espresso
scale.  I fill the filter, don't tamp, just level.  I start with cold water,
medium-low flame and let it go.
Besides the grind, I think the main improvement is to find the balance
between too slow and too hot.  My moka pot brew improved when I stopped
turning the heat down.  I'd taken to heart the advise to try and keep the
brew at an ooze.  I think I was drawing the brew time out too long.  The
flip-side is you don't want the flame too high, which will result in a too
fast, bitter brew.  I think if you can find the balance between brewing as
quickly as possible without it getting too hot (which is about 5 minutes for
me from a cold start) you've found the sweet spot.
Sounds like you're well on your way!  Keep fiddling and reporting the
results.
Best,
Kris McN
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31) From: raymanowen
For temperature measurement, the SM meter and type K t/c wire work fine. Had
the HV probe for the Fluke 87; not the t/c adaptor. $$ when I already had
two other DVM's that would read t/c junctions directly.
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up the heat, it boils faster, at 201°.
To "whomever" it may concern...Take another look at Ben's Yama vac pot
video. The water started rising quickly before any boiling took place. I
know there were many details unseen...
At the boiling point, the vapor pressure rises and steam vapor leaves the
water creating a little pressure in the pot. That raises the bp and retards
steam formation.
With the water and coffee "up," there is a pressure head of a few inches of
water column on the boiling water, so its temperature is higher. The cooler
descending coffee might cause the breakage as it floods the hotter glass.
"Cool" water flooding into a hot pot, or heat from the heat source could
continue boiling the water in the bottom of the pot. It's heating the glass
above the waterline at the same rate but it gets much hotter because it's
dry. Big Thermal differential and mechanical stress at the water line. Then
the cool coffee descends. The pot is still hot above the water line.
It broke Where? My Parrot can say Implosion and a few other things too!
"What is he saying, Ray?" Never mind. We gave him to Janet, next door...
Much more to the video than met some Augen.
I set M/P the top with gasket and coffee grille in place. It sits on the
whistle wedged between the gently steaming tea kettle and the back of the
stove.
This conditions the gasket and warms the top, otherwise I could never screw
it together tight enough to avoid tiny droplets getting out past the
gasket.
Last time, it all came together- Too long steaming the top, too much (26g,
to finish the roasted IMV) coffee in the filter funnel, ground too fine,
heat set too high...
Nuts! I had an 18 inch square of 5/16 closed cell Silicone pad for a screen
print heat transfer press... No space in this apartment, so it never made it
down.
Leather welding gloves work fine for assembling hot Moka pots and handling
hot roaster parts.
Cheers, Mabuhay und guter Abend -RayO, aka Opa!
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32) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Juan_M=2E_J=E1come?=
I got a cheap chinese made Moka Pot at the supermarket. It had a rubber
gasket with a very strong smell to it, all the coffe I made with the
original gasket tasted really bad. Made me a silicone gasket and now the
coffee tastes as it should.
Probably the case?
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33) From: jeff michel
Hi Juan,
What color was the gasket?
Jef
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34) From: jeff michel
Yeah, I use my welding gloves for my wood stove as well.
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35) From: Joseph Robertson
Yes Innovation, that's what were talking about.
JR
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36) From: Joseph Robertson
Michael,
 "i filled the beans to the "fill line" It helps to grind the coffee
first. <];^) . Just kidding.
Posting comments before coffee? I know I do it, I think I will call it
PCBC. Keep in mind Michael at this point I'm talking about myself.
Cheers,
JoeR
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May I ask where you obtained the silicone for the gasket you made. I had di=
tched cheap moka pots in the past for that exact reason. The coffee all tas=
ted likel the rubber gasket smelled. I tried everything...boiled, washed, s=
crubbed, vinegar...even bleach...no go...straight into the trash. I could n=
ot find replacements that fit exactly.
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38) From: michael brown
why do you think the grounds expanded like they did?  i think it must have had something to do with putting just-off-boil water in the bottom in addition to the fumbling, trying to get the top screwed on?  i haven't had a chance to try again.  i work all weekend and can't wake myself early enough to play with it so it'll be monday before the next round of experiments.  
michael
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39) From: jeff michel
Are you guys using the the white rubber gaskets?
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40) From: Brian Kamnetz
In my experience, the coffee grounds are packed tightly to the bottom
of the filter due in part to expansion, but probably more to the flow
of water from the bottom up. I have in the past tapped on the "dome"
of grounds and it has collapsed, because it was hollow.
Brian
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41) From: michael brown
yeah this was an odd phenomenon.  in the past when i had used it, it developed a nice little "puck" at the bottom.  but this time it expanded to an air filled "bubble."  t'was quite odd.
michael
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