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1) From: DeCambre.Peter
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2) From: Sheila Quinn
For the espresso lovers on the list, do you use a convex or flat tamper? 
Which do you think is best... and why?
I just bought my first real espresso machine (Gaggia Baby) and I need to 
buy a "real" tamper to replace the plastic cat toy, as a friend here 
calls it. I'm not sure what to buy. Since they're not exactly cheap, I 
need to buy the right one the first time!
If you have other recommendations regarding tampers or hints to a 
newbie, feel free to chime in!
Thanks,
Sheila

3) From: Brett Mason
Check out the Thor Tamper on Sweet Maria's site!  I love mine...  Les makes
these and they have a flat bottom.  I vote for flat bottom....
But I am more of a plain rice for coffee grinders kind of guy anyway!
Brett
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4) From: Sheila Quinn
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I'd rather have the flat kind myself... but was wondering if there is 
really some good reason to get the convex type. I read an article on the 
espressoparts.com site about its so-called advantages, but it wasn't 
convincing.
Thanks for the info on the tamper that Les makes - I will check it out! 
Nice to support our own little group anyway.
Sheila
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I'd rather have the flat kind myself... but was wondering if there is
really some good reason to get the convex type. I read an article on
the espressoparts.com site about its so-called advantages, but it
wasn't convincing.
Thanks for the info on the tamper that Les makes - I will check it out!
Nice to support our own little group anyway.
Sheila
Brett Mason wrote:
Check out the Thor Tamper on Sweet Maria's site!  I love
mine...  Les makes these and they have a flat bottom.  I vote for flat
bottom....
  
But I am more of a plain rice for coffee grinders kind of guy anyway!
Brett
  
  
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wrote:
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the espresso lovers on the list, do you use a convex or flat tamper?
Which do you think is best... and why?
    
I just bought my first real espresso machine (Gaggia Baby) and I need to
buy a "real" tamper to replace the plastic cat toy, as a friend here
    
calls it. I'm not sure what to buy. Since they're not exactly cheap, I
need to buy the right one the first time!
    
If you have other recommendations regarding tampers or hints to a
newbie, feel free to chime in!
    
    
Thanks,
Sheila
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5) From: Les
I use both.  I see no advantage to a convex tamper unless you want to
over fill your Portafilter basket.  By the way, the tampers I sell to
Tom have a convex base.  If you like to roll your tamper using the
Staub method, the convex helps.  It is no harder to make one or the
other.
Les
Thor Tampers
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6) From: John F Coffey
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I use les's tampers.  SM sells some of them.  Or you might want to  
contact les for more current stock.  thortamper.com
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I use les's tampers.  SM sells =
some of them.  Or you might want to contact les for more current =
stock.  thortamper.com

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For the espresso lovers on the list, do you use a = convex or flat tamper? Which do you think is best... and why? I just = bought my first real espresso machine (Gaggia Baby) and I need to buy a = "real" tamper to replace the plastic cat toy, as a friend here calls it. = I'm not sure what to buy. Since they're not exactly cheap, I need to buy = the right one the first time! If you have other = recommendations regarding tampers or hints to a newbie, feel free to = chime in! Thanks,homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = --------------  John F. = Coffey  Email - john  P.O. Box 524 =   Blaine, WA  98231


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7) From: Sandy Andina
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I second the advice for a Thor if you've got the dough. But I would  
also advise you to, for a day or so before you use it, to first air  
it out and then store it in a jar full of ground coffee (no kidding!)  
to allow the finish to outgas.  The wood on the tamping surface is  
unfinished and the rest of the tamper is finished with food-grade  
wax, but I had a tough time getting used to (and rid of) the smell  
till I hit on keeping it in a jar full of ground coffee (from a gift  
brick of Bustelo I'd received that was long past pull date).  After a  
day, I pulled it out, wiped it off, and it had no scent whatsoever.  
Mine does tend to have some "drag" when I polish the puck, and I will  
sometimes use it for the tamp and a metal tamper (see below) for the  
polish.
If you are a metal tamper fan (or have smaller hands and want a more  
grippable handle), I like the Lava Tamp with flat bottom. I also had  
a Rancilio logo oak-handled tamper with a very slightly convex bottom  
(much subtler than the usual "convex" offerings). I do find that  
steel gives a better "polish" to the puck without tearing it, and  
some say the slight convex might also create a bit of a seal around  
the edge to prevent channeling. I like steel better than aluminum  
because it's heavier and smoother. Whatever you choose, make sure  
that the bottom is smooth--even small scratches or dings can tear the  
puck.
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I second the advice for a Thor =
if you've got the dough. But I would also advise you to, for a day or so =
before you use it, to first air it out and then store it in a jar full =
of ground coffee (no kidding!) to allow the finish to outgas.  The =
wood on the tamping surface is unfinished and the rest of the tamper is =
finished with food-grade wax, but I had a tough time getting used to =
(and rid of) the smell till I hit on keeping it in a jar full of ground =
coffee (from a gift brick of Bustelo I'd received that was long past =
pull date).  After a day, I pulled it out, wiped it off, and it had no =
scent whatsoever. Mine does tend to have some "drag" when I polish the =
puck, and I will sometimes use it for the tamp and a metal tamper (see =
below) for the polish.
If you are a metal tamper = fan (or have smaller hands and want a more grippable handle), I like the = Lava Tamp with flat bottom. I also had a Rancilio logo oak-handled = tamper with a very slightly convex bottom (much subtler than the usual = "convex" offerings). I do find that steel gives a better "polish" to the = puck without tearing it, and some say the slight convex might also = create a bit of a seal around the edge to prevent channeling. I like = steel better than aluminum because it's heavier and smoother. Whatever = you choose, make sure that the bottom is smooth--even small scratches or = dings can tear the puck. On Dec 1, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Brett = Mason wrote:
Check out the Thor Tamper on Sweet Maria's site!  I love = mine...  Les makes these and they have a flat bottom.  I vote for = flat bottom.... But I am more of a plain rice for coffee grinders = kind of guy anyway! Brett On = 12/1/06, Sheila Quinn <quinngraphics> = wrote: For the espresso lovers on the list, do you use a convex or flat = tamper? Which do you think is best... and why? I just bought = my first real espresso machine (Gaggia Baby) and I need to buy a = "real" tamper to replace the plastic cat toy, as a friend here calls = it. I'm not sure what to buy. Since they're not exactly cheap, I need = to buy the right one the first time! If you have other = recommendations regarding tampers or hints to a newbie, feel free to = chime in! = Thanks, Sheila= __ homeroast mailing list http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast To change your = personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to = http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings =
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8) From: Sheila Quinn
That brings me to another question about wood tampers.... Doesn't the 
surface of the wood get nasty after awhile? I would think that all of 
the contact with coffee grounds would make it a bit nasty after a while. 
Am I wrong?
Sheila
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9) From: Tom Ulmer
Convex...

10) From: Sandy Andina
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Depends on what you mean by "nasty." The surface touches the coffee  
relatively briefly--the coffee is dry, and you can wipe the tamper  
afterwards anyway. That particular wood is tight-grained and  
relatively non-porous. Nothing nasty about the scent of good coffee!
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Depends on what you mean by =
"nasty." The surface touches the coffee relatively briefly--the coffee =
is dry, and you can wipe the tamper afterwards anyway. That particular =
wood is tight-grained and relatively non-porous. Nothing nasty about the =
scent of good coffee!  
On Dec 1, 2006, at 3:07 PM, =
Sheila Quinn wrote:
That brings me to another question about wood = tampers.... Doesn't the surface of the wood get nasty after awhile? I = would think that all of the contact with coffee grounds would make it a = bit nasty after a while. Am I wrong? Sheila Sandy Andina wrote: I second the advice for a Thor = if you've got the dough. But I would also advise you to, for a day or so = before you use it, to first air it out and then store it in a jar full = of ground coffee (no kidding!) to allow the finish to outgas.  The wood on the tamping = surface is unfinished and the rest of the tamper is finished with = food-grade wax, but I had a tough time getting used to (and rid of) the = smell till I hit on keeping it in a jar full of ground coffee (from a = gift brick of Bustelo I'd received that was long past pull date).  After a day, I pulled it out, = wiped it off, and it had no scent whatsoever. Mine does tend to have = some "drag" when I polish the puck, and I will sometimes use it for the = tamp and a metal tamper (see below) for the polish. If you = are a metal tamper fan (or have smaller hands and want a more grippable = handle), I like the Lava Tamp with flat bottom. I also had a Rancilio = logo oak-handled tamper with a very slightly convex bottom (much subtler = than the usual "convex" offerings). I do find that steel gives a better = "polish" to the puck without tearing it, and some say the slight convex = might also create a bit of a seal around the edge to prevent channeling. = I like steel better than aluminum because it's heavier and smoother. = Whatever you choose, make sure that the bottom is smooth--even small = scratches or dings can tear the puck.On Dec = 1, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Brett Mason wrote: Check out the Thor Tamper on Sweet Maria's = site!  I love = mine...  Les makes these = and they have a flat bottom.  = I vote for flat bottom.... But I am more of a plain rice = for coffee grinders kind of guy anyway! On 12/1/06, *Sheila Quinn* = <quinngraphics <mailto:quinngraphics= >> wrote:     = For the espresso lovers on the list, do you use a convex or = flat    tamper?    = Which do you think is best... and why?     I just bought my first = real espresso machine (Gaggia Baby) and I    need to    = buy a "real" tamper to replace the plastic cat toy, as a friend = here    calls it. I'm not sure = what to buy. Since they're not exactly    cheap, I    = need to buy the right one the first time!     If you have other = recommendations regarding tampers or hints to a    = newbie, feel free to chime in!     Thanks,    = Sheila    =    = homeroast mailing list    http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast    = <http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast>    = To change your personal list settings (digest options, = vacations,    unsvbscribes) go = to    = http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings -- Brett http://homeroast.freeservers.com= Sandywww.sandyandina.comhomeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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11) From: Brett Mason
Very very hard wood - means dense - means not so porous...  Very little gets
in there.
Here's my process:
  1. pull a few oz. water thru my portafilter to even out the temp in the HX
machine
  2. dry off the PF with a paper towel, so as not to mess with the heat of
the PF
  3. pull a shot of grounds from the doserless rocky into the PF
  4. distribute the grounds evenly using the disecting needle approach (see
link)
       http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/194636#194636  5. generously swipe to level the grounds
  6. THORTamp FLAT with slight NESW
  7. lightly turn the tamper to just brush-polish the surface
  8. load PF into machine and pull a 25 second shot
  9. wipe Tamper bottom clean with paper towel
 10. finish preparing coffee drink
 11. knock puck into FOLGERS Knock Box
 12. replace PF, pull another few oz
 13. pull and clean pf with paper towel
 14. clean grouphead with paper towel
 15. clean gasket with brush
 16. wipe up any aditional mess or drops with paper towel
I know that's a lot of steps - it goes real quickly though.  Point for this
thread is I use a paper towel to clean the tamper after every shot.
For the dissecting needle in step 4, I used a 6" dowel, sank a finishing
nail into the end, and then removed the nib with my dremel tool.  The funnel
is a yogurt container with the bottom removed by dremel as well...
For the Folgers knock box, I made my own with a vintage folgers can...  May
be offering these at some point for espresso consumption...
Regards,
Brett
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12) From: Sheila Quinn
I meant the coffee *oils* penetrating the wood, not the scent. Is this 
ever an issue? I know the surface is highly polished and the grounds 
should make it slide right off, but do they have to be re-polished every 
so often to keep it that way?
As you  know, I'm also a "pen person," and I know there are wooden pens 
that people say will absorb oils from the skin. Some of those are 
unfinished also - no varnish or anything, just polished wood. They need 
to be re-polished occasionally if used frequently.
So yes, I think about these things... that's all. Coffee grounds, if 
they penetrate the wood, would most certainly stain. That's what I mean 
by nasty.
Sheila
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13) From: Sheila Quinn
I would ask Les if I needed just a handle. He could probably do it, but 
you might have to send the disk so he would know how to thread it. 
They're not all interchangeable.
Les, do you make handles? :)
Sheila
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14) From: Mike Chester
This is a quote from Les' site:
Thor tampers have no finish on the bottom.  They have a Lignum
Vitae or Blackwood base - two of the hardest woods in the world.
Nothing touches the coffee but the highly polished wood!  The rest of
the tamper is finished in a bar top finish for many years of service.
Lignum Vitae has the strength of cast iron.  It is also a very unique
wood that has been used for making  bearings in Marine applications
for centuries
I have had mine for about a year now, use it several times a day, and it has 
absorbed nothing.  I bought the maple tamper from Les which is his lowest 
priced model.  It is crafted exactly the same as his premimum wood tampers. 
The craftmanship is excellent and the tamper is well balanced, weighted 
perfectly,  and fits my hand perfectly.  His price on the maple model is 
actually lower than a quality production metal tamper, but it is hand 
crafted and mine fits my PF better than the cast metal model that I also 
have.  Plus, they are works of art.  I bought the maple to match my kitchen 
cabinets, and though it is not as spectacular as some of the burl woods that 
he sells, it is still quite handsome.  I have the flat bottom one.  I would 
highly recommend this tamper.
Hey Les, If you can shill for Tom, I can shill for you.
Mike Chester

15) From: Sheila Quinn
Good to know - this is exactly what I was wondering!
Thanks!
Sheila
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16) From: Leo Zick
Can someone email me les' site offlist ?  I don't want to violate list
rules..
Thanks!

17) From: Michael Dhabolt
Sheila,
I finally ponied up for one of Les's Thor tampers a year or so ago.  I had
been aware of them for quite some time prior to purchasing.  One of the
prime reasons for finally deciding to purchase was witnessing the little
smile that several friends showed every time they picked up their Thor,  the
smile was consistent....even with folks who had been using their Thor for
years.  I am confident that flat or convex  - you too will feel that little
bit of extra special-ness when using tools of this quality.
Wipe it off every once in a while, and smile every time you look at it (and
feel the class while using it).http://www.thortamper.com/- not a chance of Tom having a problem with this
one.
Mike (just plain)

18) From: Les
Leo,
It isn't a violation since Tom has a link to my website.  It is
www.thortamper.com  Shiela,  I make pens too!  Sandy, my finishing
company is now making it without the scent for me, so folks don't have
to go to your extreme!  I finish the tampers with a catalyized
varnish.  The Lignum Vitae has the strength of cast iron.  It is also
has a lot of resin, so it doesn't absorb coffee oil.  Blackwood has
the same properties, but is just a touch softer.  Nobody could really
tell the difference without a sensitive instrument.  I am testing
Ebony right now to see if it might be a good wood as real good lignum
is hard to get at times.  I love my Apple computer, but my web-site
software isn't compatible and my hard-drive just died on my lap-top,
so I don't know when I will be able load new stuff on my website.
Les
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19) From: raymanowen
Hmmm- I don't fancy I overfill my Capresso filter basket with 14.0g of the
coffee grounds. Of course, some might say that putting any coffee in it is
overfilling it. I don't wanna hear it.
I didn't know I was using the Staub method- at any rate, I can easily
overpack a true espresso grind. I use the  plastic thingy to dip out 7g of
beans (X2) and minimize air/CO2 exchange in the quart fruit jar.
I realized it was clueless to just open the jar and dump beans into the
measuring pan. Pouring out the beans forces the dense invisible CO2 gas to
be poured out also- to be replaced by fresh air and O2. Not!
BTW- I chose to pass on the High Voltage high frequency electrode in the
throat of Grinder M. The giant Tesla coil I built generated Ozone like
crazy. If you don't like oxygen, O2, you'll absolutely HATE Ozone, O3!
A puff of CO2 will blow the grounds out of the grinder's throat, methinks.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
"The indisputable truth is that no coffee is fresh if it isn't fresh
roasted." - - Martin Diedrich

20) From: Sandy Andina
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Les, I too am a pen collector (Sheila and I are on the same pen  
listserv). Do you turn fountain pens, and if so, what kind of nibs?
On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:49 PM, Les wrote:
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Les, I too am a pen collector =
(Sheila and I are on the same pen listserv). Do you turn fountain pens, =
and if so, what kind of nibs?
On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:49 PM, =
Les wrote:
Leo,It isn't a violation since Tom has a link to my = website.  It iswww.thortamper.com  Shiela,  I make pens too!  Sandy, my finishingcompany is now making it without the scent for me, = so folks don't haveto go to your extreme!  I finish the tampers with a = catalyizedvarnish.  The Lignum Vitae has the = strength of cast iron.  = It is alsohas a lot of resin, so it = doesn't absorb coffee oil.  = Blackwood hasthe same properties, but is = just a touch softer.  = Nobody could reallytell the = difference without a sensitive instrument.  I am testingEbony right now to see if it might be a good wood as = real good lignumis hard to get at times.  I love my Apple computer, but = my web-sitesoftware isn't compatible and my = hard-drive just died on my lap-top,so I don't = know when I will be able load new stuff on my website. On 12/1/06, Leo Zick <leo> = wrote: Can someone = email me les' site offlist ?  = I don't want to violate listThanks! From: Mike = Chester [mailto:mchet96]Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:10 PMTo: homeroast= s.comSubject: Re: +tampers: convex or = flat? This is a quote from Les' site:Thor tampers have no finish on the bottom.  They have a LignumVitae or Blackwood base - two of the hardest woods = in the world.Nothing touches the coffee but = the highly polished wood!  = The rest ofthe tamper is finished in a = bar top finish for many years of service.Lignum = Vitae has the strength of cast iron.  It is also a very = uniquewood that has been used for = making  bearings in = Marine applicationsfor centuriesI have had mine for about a year now, use it several = times a day, and it has absorbed nothing.  I bought the maple tamper = from Les which is his lowestpriced = model.  It is crafted = exactly the same as his premimum wood tampers.The craftmanship is excellent and the tamper is well = balanced, weightedperfectly,  and fits my hand = perfectly.  His price on = the maple model isactually lower than a = quality production metal tamper, but it is handcrafted and mine fits my PF better than the cast = metal model that I alsohave.  Plus, they are works of = art.  I bought the maple = to match my kitchencabinets, and though it is = not as spectacular as some of the burl woods that he = sells, it is still quite handsome. = I have the flat bottom one. = I wouldhighly recommend this = tamper.Hey Les, If you can shill for = Tom, I can shill for you. Mike Chester ----- = Original Message -----From: "Sheila Quinn" <quinngraphics>To: <homeroast= s.com>Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 = 4:46 PMSubject: Re: +tampers: convex or = flat? >I = meant the coffee *oils* penetrating the wood, not the scent. Is this = ever >an issue? I know the surface is highly polished = and the grounds should make >it slide right off, but do = they have to be re-polished every so often to>keep it that way?> As you  know, I'm also a "pen = person," and I know there are wooden pens> = that people say will absorb oils from the skin. Some of those = are> unfinished also - no = varnish or anything, just polished wood. They need to > be = re-polished occasionally if used frequently.>> So yes, = I think about these things... that's all. Coffee grounds, if = they> penetrate the wood, would = most certainly stain. That's what I mean by> = nasty.>> Sheila>>> Sandy = Andina wrote:>> Depends on what you = mean by "nasty." The surface touches the coffee>> relatively briefly--the coffee is dry, and = you can wipe the tamper>> = afterwards anyway. That particular wood is tight-grained and = relatively>> non-porous. Nothing = nasty about the scent of good coffee!  On Dec 1,>> 2006, at 3:07 PM, Sheila Quinn = wrote:>>>>> That brings me to another question = about wood tampers.... Doesn't the>>> = surface of the wood get nasty after awhile? I would think that all = of>>> the contact with coffee grounds = would make it a bit nasty after a while. >>> = Am I wrong?>>>>>> Sheila>>>>>>>>> Sandy Andina = wrote:>>>> I second the = advice for a Thor if you've got the dough. But I would>>>> also advise you to, for a day or so = before you use it, to first air it>>>> allow the = finish to outgas.  The = wood on the tamping surface is>>>> but I had = a tough time getting used to (and rid of) the smell till I>>>> hit on keeping it in a jar full of = ground coffee (from a gift brick of  After a day, = I>>>> pulled it out, wiped it off, = and it had no scent whatsoever. Mine does>>>> use it for the = tamp and a metal tamper (see below) for the polish.>>>>>>>> grippable = handle), I like the Lava Tamp with flat bottom. I also had a>>>> Rancilio logo oak-handled tamper = with a very slightly convex bottom>>>> gives a = better "polish" to the puck without tearing it, and some say>>>> the slight convex might also create = a bit of a seal around the edge to>>>> heavier and = smoother. Whatever you choose, make sure that the bottom is >>>> On Dec 1, 2006, = at 1:09 PM, Brett Mason wrote:>>>>> Check = out the Thor Tamper on Sweet Maria's site!  I love mine...  Les>>>>> makes these and they have a = flat bottom.  I vote for = flat bottom....>>>>>>>>>> But I am more of a plain rice = for coffee grinders kind of guy anyway!>>>>> On = 12/1/06, *Sheila Quinn* <quinngraphics<= DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">>>>>> <mailto:quinngraphics= >> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>     For the espresso lovers = on the list, do you use a convex or flat    = tamper?>>>>>     Which do you think is = best... and why?>>>>>>>>>>     I just bought my first = real espresso machine (Gaggia Baby) and I    = need to>>>>>     buy a "real" tamper to = replace the plastic cat toy, as a friend    = calls it. I'm not sure what to buy. Since they're not = exactly>>>>>     cheap, I>>>>>     need to buy the right one = the first time!>>>>>>>>>>     If you have other = recommendations regarding tampers or hints to a>>>>>     newbie, feel free to = chime in!>>>>>>>>>>     Thanks,>>>>>     Sheila>>>>>     =>>>>>     homeroast mailing = list>>>>>     http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast>>>>>     <http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast>>>>>>     To change your personal = list settings (digest options, vacations,    = unsvbscribes) go to    = http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings>>>>>>>>>> = -->>>>> Cheers,>>>>> Brett>>>>>http://homeroast.freeservers.com=>>>>>>>> Sandywww.sandyandina.com>>>> www.sass-music.com>>>>>>> =>>> homeroast mailing list>>> http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast>>> To change your personal list settings = (digest options, vacations,>>> = unsvbscribes) go to>>> http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings>>>> = Sandy>> www.sandyandina.com>> www.sass-music.com>>> => homeroast mailing list> http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast> To change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations,> unsvbscribes) go = to> http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings> homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations,unsvbscribes) go = tohttp://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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21) From:
Sheila:
I have both types of tampers and must say I love the convex and tend to use it more.
Both of these are from Les at Thor Tampers. Not o only practical but art work as well...
ginny
if you would like I can send you the convex to try out for a few weeks to see if you like it
just send me your address off list.
---- Sheila Quinn  wrote: 
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22) From: MichaelB
Pick one tamper, flat or convex. Spend a month or so practicing with it till
you develop a consistent method of tamping your pucks that produces
excellent results. Then, when you've got everything working just the way you
want it, switch to the other type and guaranteed, your shots will improve.
Repeat monthly.
On 12/1/06, Sheila Quinn  wrote:
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MichaelB

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Ginny:
What a nice offer - email sent to you! We sure have a lot of great 
people here, don't we? :)
Sheila
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Ginny:
What a nice offer - email sent to you! We sure have a lot of great
people here, don't we? :)
Sheila
pchforever wrote:
  Sheila:
I have both types of tampers and must say I love the convex and tend to use it more.
Both of these are from Les at Thor Tampers. Not o only practical but art work as well...
ginny
if you would like I can send you the convex to try out for a few weeks to see if you like it
just send me your address off list.
---- Sheila Quinn <quinngraphics> wrote: 
  
  
    For the espresso lovers on the list, do you use a convex or flat tamper? 
Which do you think is best... and why?
I just bought my first real espresso machine (Gaggia Baby) and I need to 
buy a "real" tamper to replace the plastic cat toy, as a friend here 
calls it. I'm not sure what to buy. Since they're not exactly cheap, I 
need to buy the right one the first time!
If you have other recommendations regarding tampers or hints to a 
newbie, feel free to chime in!
Thanks,
Sheila
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24) From: Terry Stockdale
At 06:33 PM 12/1/2006, you wrote:
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I finally got my Thor Tamper this year as a Christmas present from my 
wife.  I got to order it, too, but she put it away until Christmas.
I got the African Rosewood model that Sweet Maria's sells.  LOVE IT!
By the way, if you have a Silvia, get one of the 58mm Triple 
Baskets.  I bought one several years ago before SM started carrying 
them.  It made a significant difference in extracted flavor.  My 
regular single and double baskets are languishing in the drawer.
Terry
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