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Topic: First BM roasting experience (17 msgs / 331 lines)
1) From: Kris McN
Well, I think it's safe to say that my first BM roasting experience was a
bit of a fiasco.   Everything started off fine, beans in, mix on, heat gun
blowing.  Then about 3 minutes in the mix speed suddenly jumped up, the
mixing arm whippin' around, and beans started flying everywhere!!  I gave a
shriek and turned the BM off and then turned it back on to the begining of
the cycle again.  Three minutes later, same thing, 3 minutes again, this
time the BM won't go back on - too hot!  More shrieking and swearing, then I
ran into the house to get a wooden spoon to stir with.  All this commotion
caught the attention of my chickens who came over to investigate.  I'm
stirring and holding the heat gun, trying to figure out what's going on with
the roast, all the while trying to fend off the chickens who are now eating
all the coffee beans all over the ground while flaming bits of chaff float
around my face.  I could hear 1st crack and see 2nd crack going on at the
same time...needless to say, the roast didn't come out so good - very uneven
and a bit burnt.   I'm having a cup as I type this.  Meh.
Oh sure, I guess I should have gone through an entire cycle with the bread
machine sans beans first, to make sure I knew what to expect - yeah well, I
tend to be a leaper not a looker.  Good thing is, now I've got my husband
interested in modding the BM with a simple on/off blade switch.
What did I learn from this experience (other than go through a whole cycle
first)?  Don't caffeinate your chickens!!
Kris

2) From: miKe mcKoffee
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Instant chicken caffeitorie!-)
miKe  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Kris McN
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:04 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: +First BM roasting experience
Well, I think it's safe to say that my first BM roasting experience was a
bit of a fiasco.   Everything started off fine, beans in, mix on, heat gun
blowing.  Then about 3 minutes in the mix speed suddenly jumped up, the
mixing arm whippin' around, and beans started flying everywhere!!  I gave a
shriek and turned the BM off and then turned it back on to the begining of
the cycle again.  Three minutes later, same thing, 3 minutes again, this
time the BM won't go back on - too hot!  More shrieking and swearing, then I
ran into the house to get a wooden spoon to stir with.  All this commotion
caught the attention of my chickens who came over to investigate.  I'm
stirring and holding the heat gun, trying to figure out what's going on with
the roast, all the while trying to fend off the chickens who are now eating
all the coffee beans all over the ground while flaming bits of chaff float
around my face.  I could hear 1st crack and see 2nd crack going on at the
same time...needless to say, the roast didn't come out so good - very uneven
and a bit burnt.   I'm having a cup as I type this.  Meh. 
Oh sure, I guess I should have gone through an entire cycle with the bread
machine sans beans first, to make sure I knew what to expect - yeah well, I
tend to be a leaper not a looker.  Good thing is, now I've got my husband
interested in modding the BM with a simple on/off blade switch. 
What did I learn from this experience (other than go through a whole cycle
first)?  Don't caffeinate your chickens!!
Kris

3) From: Vicki Smith
What bread machine model were you using? Weight of beans? Cycle? How 
close to the beans were you getting with the heat gun?
I use the dough cycle, and it goes at a pretty slow pace for the first 3 
minutes, then steps it up, a whole lot. My Sunbeam has a deep pan, and 
no beans have ever escaped. If I am moving the heat gun around, I keep 
the end about three inches from the bean mass. If I am using something 
that keeps it in one place (like my vertical chicken roaster), I keep 
the heat source further away from the beans so I am not concentrating 
too much heat in a very small area of the bread pan.
vicki
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4) From: Sheila Quinn
ROFLLMAO - thanks for the laughs this morning! I hope you get it figured 
out. :)
Sheila
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5) From: Eddie Dove
LOL ... How you gonna catch dinner now?
Eddie
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6) From: Fancye9876
LOL, I can just picture that as I have chickens too.
 
Susan

7) From: Sandy Andina
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Do you realize that you have the makings of a terrific invention:   
the compact all-in-one coffee-and-eggs breakfast? One egg will give  
you all the caffeine you need in a day, without the danger of third  
degree burns from those accidental hot coffee spills. Suggest you  
diagram what you did and seek out a patent lawyer pronto!
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Sandy
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coffee-and-eggs breakfast? One egg will give you all the caffeine you =
need in a day, without the danger of third degree burns from those =
accidental hot coffee spills. Suggest you diagram what you did and seek =
out a patent lawyer pronto!
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Kris McN wrote:
All this commotion = caught the attention of my chickens who came over to investigate.  I'm = stirring and holding the heat gun, trying to figure out what's going on = with the roast, all the while trying to fend off the chickens who are = now eating all the coffee beans all over the = ground Sandywww.sass-music.com
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8) From: Lynne
Double ROFLLMAO!
Thanks. I needed this good read.
Hey - every roast from now on (should) get better. (Only maybe not as 
funny)
Lynne
On Dec 9, 2006, at 1:37 PM, Sheila Quinn wrote:
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9) From: Kris McN
Come to think of it,I think I did notice a extra bit of zing in my scrambled
eggs this morning!  Maybe I am onto something, though it may not be worth it
given how long it took me to get the chickens back into their run yesterday.
Vicki - I think I didn't have enough beans in there - I had about 2 cups.  I
just did a dry run with enough beans to cover the mixing blade and didn't
have the flying bean problem.  I'm going to give it a go again using more
beans and hopefully this time I can pay closer attention to the roast for
better results.  Onward!

10) From: Vicki Smith
I thought that might be the deal. I routinely roast 3/4-1.25 pounds in 
my bread machine. Nothing flies out ;).
v
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11) From: Kris McN
Just made a second attempt - so. much. better!  In fact, I couldn't wait, so
I brewed up a cup.  Delish!  I'm looking forward to how good it will taste
in a couple of days.  I did about 3 cups this time, but will do more next
time, at least a pound.  That's why I wanted to try this method.  I love my
iR2, but we drink an entire batch in one sitting and never get to taste the
changes over a week of rest.
Since I was able to pay better attention this time I was able to control the
roast.  I did get another over-heat error and the machine shut down, but I
was alread to City+ and just about to pull it anyway.  Has anyone else had
this problem?
So all in all, not nearly as funny but much more satisfying.  I think the
chickens were a little disappointed though.  They hung around my feet
waiting for it to rain beans.  You can kinda feel for 'em...

12) From: Brian Kamnetz
Kris,
Just to be sure that I am understanding, did the beans stay in the bowl this
time because you used substantially more beans?
Thanks,
Brian
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13) From: Sheila Quinn
Awww... poor chickens. They're going through caffeine withdrawal! :)
Sheila
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14) From: Kris McN
Yes, exactly.  I had enough in there to cover the mixing blade at least,
which made all the difference.
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15) From: Vicki Smith
There are two separate, but related, issues. The bean mass has to get 
hot enough for the beans to move through the roast, and you are probably 
using a tool  (the heat gun) that works for roasting coffee, but puts 
out air that is waaaaay hotter than one needs in order to get there.
When I was at the playing with it stage of roasting this way, I once 
held the heat gun close enough to the beans that I reached first crack 
in about 5 minutes. It stopped the bread machine. When I modified my 
technique, and started reaching 1st at around 9 minutes, this was no 
longer a problem.
Roasting with a BM/HG isn't rocket science, but it is a learning 
process, none the less. Figuring out when to have the HG on a higher 
temp, how far from the beans the HG should be, and when to use the lower 
setting just takes a bit of practise.
If this continues to be an issue with your bread machine, and it is not 
something that a change in technique (whilst still getting great coffee) 
fixes, then you might want to head for the thrift store, and try another 
model.
vicki
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16) From: Peter Zulkowski
Yes!
My machine would shut off until I moved the electronics away from the 
heat. Geesh, it took me over a year before I was satisfied enough with 
the thing to simply put it on a toggle switch. My BM ran the same speed, 
fast (a bit over 700 rpm) from the get go; for 15 minutes until it 
needed to be reset. Sure mixes the beans!
Also, it goes wacky if you leave it out in the rain, he he.
But it dries out and then works okay. Did ruin a digital thermometer 
that way though.
PeterZ
Some days it is fun being me, here in LHC.
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17) From: Kris McN
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batch, so I ramped it up very slowly - and I got the heat error at around 14
minutes.  My husband took the BM (a "Breadman", btw) apart and disconnected
the thermostat.  Worked like a voodoo charm in a test, so hopefully this
won't happen again.  I will want to get into FC or FC+ on some beans after
all.
Thanks for all the advice!
Kris


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