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Topic: Chaff assembly base gets loose on my i-Roast 2 (15 msgs / 498 lines)
1) From: Ton van Rijn
Already a few times and particularly at the end during the cooling 
stage, the whole chaff collector assembly of my i-Roast 2 started to 
turn  loose. I see it little by little turning counter-clockwise and 
have to hold it in place then to prevent that chaff escapes. I read that 
this was a problem with the i-Roast 1 but that it should be solved with 
the version 2. Is this true or do other v.2 users have the same problem 
? And is there a trick to avoid this ? Or should I send it back to my 
supplier ?
I already tried to move the metal band around the pot, but there is no 
room for adjustment as far as I can see.
I am a little reluctant to drill a hole in the handle, as is shown on 
SweetMaria's site.

2) From: Barry Luterman
That's a problem with the I. The rubber gasket gets flattened in the chaff 
collector until it loosens. The way to prevent it from happening is when 
storing the roaster leave the top assembly loose. Only tighten it down while 
roasting. You will eventually have to replace the top assembly for about 
$17. If you take the precaution with the replacement it should last quite a 
while. Of course starting to do it now will extend the life of your present 
one.

3) From: Kris McN
This should not be a problem on the iR2 - call Hearthware and have them send
a replacement under warrenty.
On 12/19/06, Barry Luterman  wrote:
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4) From: Aaron
get some gasket material from an auto store or whatever,  garlock, 
teflon kevlar, etc etc.... cut out a 'ring' of the stuff to fit the size 
of your original gasket .  Ie pull the gasket out and measure it.
Now put this new ring UNDER the existing gasket so it's at the top of 
the I roast and the original is at the bottom still making the seal for you.
This extra 'push' will be enough to make it tight again.
Be warned though you don't want it super stiff on the thing because that 
will put stress on the tits that hold the cover on and it can cause them 
to eventually break off.
Aaron

5) From: Ton van Rijn
Thanks Barry, but that is what I already did from the start. Btw, my 
i-Roast 2 is only 3 weeks old and I did some 25 roasts with it.

6) From: Barry Luterman
Then it has to go back it should not be doing that.

7) From: Aaron
It was said:
Thanks Barry, but that is what I already did from the start. Btw, my 
i-Roast 2 is only 3 weeks old and I did some 25 roasts with it.
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OUCH!!!
Unless they made the II's a bit more robust than the I's  you are not 
supposed to roast more than 7 times a week  * 3 for 21 roasts total in 
that time frame.
Doing so will void your warranty and will most definately burn the unit 
out at an early age.
Might want to slow down a bit on the use of the thing, and if you do 
send in for warranty do NOT tell them you used it that much...
aaron

8) From: Sandy Andina
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Are you talking about the entire lid assembly coming loose from the  
pot, or just the top screened lid insert coming loose from the bottom  
part of the lid (the chaff-collector, that part that I've had to  
replace umpty-million times because the Bakelite cracks)?  I have an  
i-Roast and an i-2 and I have noticed that the top lid clicks like a  
bayonet into the latter's chaff collector and stayes secure, but  
rattles loosely in the former's chaff collector. I have swapped top  
lid inserts and have the same result.  Never noticed this on the  
cracked i-Roast chaff collectors I had to discard because they  
disintegrated. (Now, the replacement i-Roast chaff collector was  
purchased used from Coffee Bean Corral in Toronto because I couldn't  
find one anywhere else--perhaps its gasket failed even though its  
Bakelite remains intact)?
On Dec 19, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Aaron wrote:
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Sandy
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Are you talking about the entire =
lid assembly coming loose from the pot, or just the top screened lid =
insert coming loose from the bottom part of the lid (the =
chaff-collector, that part that I've had to replace umpty-million times =
because the Bakelite cracks)?  I have an i-Roast and an i-2 and I have =
noticed that the top lid clicks like a bayonet into the latter's chaff =
collector and stayes secure, but rattles loosely in the former's chaff =
collector. I have swapped top lid inserts and have the same result.  =
Never noticed this on the cracked i-Roast chaff collectors I had to =
discard because they disintegrated. (Now, the replacement i-Roast chaff =
collector was purchased used from Coffee Bean Corral in Toronto because =
I couldn't find one anywhere else--perhaps its gasket failed even though =
its Bakelite remains intact)?
On Dec 19, 2006, at 2:15 PM, =
Aaron wrote:
get some gasket material from an = auto store or whatever,  = garlock, teflon kevlar, etc etc.... cut out a 'ring' of the stuff = to fit the size of your original gasket .  Ie pull the gasket out and = measure it.Now put this new ring UNDER the = existing gasket so it's at the top of the I roast and the original is at = the bottom still making the seal for you.This = extra 'push' will be enough to make it tight again. Be = warned though you don't want it super stiff on the thing because that = will put stress on the tits that hold the cover on and it can cause them = to eventually break off. Aaronhomeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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9) From: Aaron
Sandy I believe we are talking about the whole top assembly as it was 
mentioned that the gasket gets squished down and that's the only part up 
there that has a gasket on it.   so far in my experiences I have never 
had a problem with just the small chaff lid, although yes as you 
mentioned they can get rattly, no big deal though, i never had one 
'undo' or come off unless it was somehow damaged.
The entire top assembly now, even if we are not talking about the 
'bigger' assembly I will say that yes this part does become a problem 
over time, because of the exact problem mentioned, the gasket gets 
compressed and the thing can wiggle loose.  It doesn't take much to lift 
off, especially if you are a frequent user of your I roast and the slide 
bayonets start to get a bit worn or if you cracked part of one 
off.....in this case yes the gasket thingie can help.... or just pushing 
down on the top a tad but be careful as that thing is hot ... I have 
used my metal colendar to do just that one one machine I have that works 
itself loose as soon as it heats up..... this unit however has a bad 
vibration problem in the base too, and I am suspecting a bushing getting 
ready to wipe totally or a fan blade busted and throwing it off balance.
It's interesting to hear that your bakelite cracks on the top chaff part 
as I have yet to have that problem, and hope I don't now.   Also 
interesting concerning wear is that I have 4 I roasts but only two 
roasting assemblies,  ie pot top lid, chaff collector etc... so the 
parts that take the wear up there get used a lot more for me since I 
will do a batch, clean the collector out and immediately throw the glass 
/ cover onto the next base unit with a charge of beans in it to do the 
next batch.
I probably should order another one... possibly two but well.. so far 
it's worked fine for me so im sticking with it.
Aaron

10) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
On 12/19/06, Aaron  wrote:
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If it is the entire assembly, check under the bottom rim of the chaff
collector where it engages the handle of the roast chamber. There is a wire
clip that can be bent a little to secure the lid in roast position. That
should keep the chaff collector from coming out of position. I have noticed
that even though my collector wants to 'migrate' during the roast, it has
never came out of the locked position.
If this is not the issue.......Never Mind...
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11) From: Vicki Smith
Tom deals with this pretty extensively in his on-line tip sheet, the 
latest version of which may very well be different than the one you got 
with your machine.  I know mine was.http://www.sweetmarias.com/hearthware.iRoasttipsheet.htmlScroll down to the section titled, "My i Roast Chaff Collector Lid is 
Coming Loose!"
vicki
Ton van Rijn wrote:
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12) From: Sandy Andina
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There isn't a wire clip on the original i-Roast lid, which is why Tom  
suggests a little "kludge" using a nail or screw and drilling a hole  
for it.
On Dec 20, 2006, at 7:41 AM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
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Sandy
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There isn't a wire clip on the =
original i-Roast lid, which is why Tom suggests a little "kludge" using =
a nail or screw and drilling a hole for it.
On Dec 20, =
2006, at 7:41 AM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
= On 12/19/06, Aaron <beerbong> = wrote: Sandy I = believe we are talking about the whole top assembly =     If it is the entire assembly, check = under the bottom rim of the chaff collector where it engages the = handle of the roast chamber. There is a wire clip that can be bent a = little to secure the lid in roast position. That should keep the chaff = collector from coming out of position. I have noticed that even though = my collector wants to 'migrate' during the roast, it has never came out = of the locked position. If this is not the issue.......Never = Mind... -- = Start HOT and work your way Down... Peppers AND = Coffee. [|:{O....[|:{U... = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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13) From: Ton van Rijn
Thanks Vicki.
I already saw that but I am a little reluctant to drill in my new 
i-Roast 2. Actually I was anxious to know whether this problem should 
occur with the version 2 of the i-Roast.
Btw, living in Holland, I didn't buy it from SweetMaria.
Ton

14) From: Ton van Rijn
After closely examining the roasting chamber with the chaff collector 
base locked on it, I think I have found where the problem lies, although 
I don't see a solution (apart from getting a new pot and chaff collector 
base).
There are 7 tabs at the top of the metal band. 3 of them support the 
chaff collector base and 4 are slightly rising and slide in the grooves 
of the base. When the base is locked on the pot and when I look at it 
from the bottom, I see that at least 1 of the rising tabs is hardly 
supported by the groove in the base, no matter how I put the base on the 
pot. In other words, the diameter of the metal ring with these tabs is a 
tiny little bit smaller than the base. Now I can see why it gets loose. 
With the vibration, at a certain moment the tab slides off the groove, 
the whole gets more loose and bingo !
I tried to unscrew the small bolt, that holds the band together, so that 
the diameter gets a little bit larger, but then the whole becomes sloppy.
Btw, I also see that these tabs don't disappear completely under the 
grooves. About 1mm (lengthwise) stays visible. It is as if the base has 
to be turned a few degrees further, but that is not possible. However 
this is maybe "normal" ?

15) From: Sandy Andina
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BTW, I went into the chaff collector base on the i-R and pried the  
little clips slightly, and now the lid clicks securely in place.
On Dec 20, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Vicki Smith wrote:
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Sandy
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BTW, I went into the chaff =
collector base on the i-R and pried the little clips slightly, and now =
the lid clicks securely in place.
On Dec 20, 2006, at 12:39 =
PM, Vicki Smith wrote:
Tom deals with this pretty extensively in his = on-line tip sheet, the latest version of which may very well be = different than the one you got with your machine.  I know mine was. http://=www.sweetmarias.com/hearthware.iRoasttipsheet.html Scroll = down to the section titled, "My i Roast Chaff Collector Lid is Coming = Loose!" vicki Ton van Rijn wrote: = Already a few times and = particularly at the end during the cooling stage, the whole chaff = collector assembly of my i-Roast 2 started to turn  loose.  homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandywww.sass-music.com
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