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1) From: Lynne
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I've been ready to dump the car - I do have a son who is very good 
w/this kinda stuff - but he's never done this before.
Is this something that can be done w/out a lift? Other son is telling 
me to have it towed to our new address, but the driveway is VERY skinny =
and shared by others, so I'm not sure if I should bother.
What do you think?
Lynne
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I've been ready to dump the car - I do have a son who is very good
w/this kinda stuff - but he's never done this before.
Is this something that can be done w/out a lift? Other son is telling
me to have it towed to our new address, but the driveway is VERY
skinny and shared by others, so I'm not sure if I should bother.
What do you think?
Lynne
On Dec 22, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Eddie Dove wrote:
Lynne,
Depending on model and year of your car, your fuel pump is probably
inside the gas tank which requires removing the gas tank.  It is
important to make sure everything get tightened, but not stripped; you
don't want any leaks.  On older carbureted cars the fuel line ran on
about 6 PSI (pressure) whereas the fuel injected models are about 36
PSI;  that tidbit is just to reinforce the fact that you have to make
sure it doesn't leak especially with fuel pumps on fuel injected cars
because they create a lot more pressure..  All of this is from memory
recall, so the numbers may not be totally accurate, but they are just
FYI anyway.
Now, the best way to figure out if you want to take on this task is to
go spend about $12.00 on a Haynes Manual (any automotive parts store)
that covers the make, model and year of your car.  They are usually
all in one rack.  These manuals are written for the shade tree
mechanic and tell you how to do it step by step (in plain English),
has pictures and references to specifications and tools.  I buy one
for all of my vehicles as soon as they are available so that I can do
much of the work myself. 
Hope this helps ...
Eddie
On 12/22/06, Lynne
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me how to replace a fuel pump on my [now deceased & sitting
in the
repair shop - perhaps forever] Buick.
sigh...
Lynne (off to the stores by the T this morning...)
[doing my part to spread my second generation Sicilian mom's motto:
"When You Feel Bad About Yourself, Just Look At Someone w/a Worst
Situation"]
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2) From: Leo Zick
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You may not need for a lift for this. All cars that ive seen (imports,
sorry) have fuel pumps that are accessible are under the rear seats.  If
not, a jack and some stands may give enough room. 
Any info on the car?  Rather than buy the manual (which is invaluable), try
a library or bookstore too, you may be able to just read up on it rather
than invest the extra $15 if that's a concern.
Also, try these sites:http://www.2carpros.com/makes/buick/index.htmhttp://cartalk.com/board/ubbthreads.php
make sure to disconnect the battery and open the gas cap, itll help relieve
pressure from the lines.  While youre at it, change the fuel filter too,
typically under the hood.
From: Lynne [mailto:lynnebiz] 
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:23 AM
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Subject: Re: +Way OT: Car Repairs, Was:Help me fix my oven for Christmas
I've been ready to dump the car - I do have a son who is very good w/this
kinda stuff - but he's never done this before.
Is this something that can be done w/out a lift? Other son is telling me to
have it towed to our new address, but the driveway is VERY skinny and shared
by others, so I'm not sure if I should bother.
What do you think?
Lynne
On Dec 22, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Eddie Dove wrote:
Lynne,
Depending on model and year of your car, your fuel pump is probably inside
the gas tank which requires removing the gas tank.  It is important to make
sure everything get tightened, but not stripped; you don't want any leaks.
On older carbureted cars the fuel line ran on about 6 PSI (pressure) whereas
the fuel injected models are about 36 PSI;  that tidbit is just to reinforce
the fact that you have to make sure it doesn't leak especially with fuel
pumps on fuel injected cars because they create a lot more pressure..  All
of this is from memory recall, so the numbers may not be totally accurate,
but they are just FYI anyway.
Now, the best way to figure out if you want to take on this task is to go
spend about $12.00 on a Haynes Manual (any automotive parts store) that
covers the make, model and year of your car.  They are usually all in one
rack.  These manuals are written for the shade tree mechanic and tell you
how to do it step by step (in plain English), has pictures and references to
specifications and tools.  I buy one for all of my vehicles as soon as they
are available so that I can do much of the work myself. 
Hope this helps ...
Eddie
On 12/22/06, Lynne  wrote:
me how to replace a fuel pump on my [now deceased & sitting in the
repair shop - perhaps forever] Buick.
sigh...
Lynne (off to the stores by the T this morning...)
[doing my part to spread my second generation Sicilian mom's motto:
"When You Feel Bad About Yourself, Just Look At Someone w/a Worst
Situation"]
On Dec 21, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Derek Bradford wrote: 
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3) From: Eddie Dove
Lynne,
Just making sure, we are talking about the fuel pump and not the fuel filter
... however, if the fuel filter (should be relatively inexpensive) has not
been replaced in a long time, it should be replaced too.  It is usually
either in the wheel well or along the frame rail on older American cars,
again depending on the year, make and model of the car.  When you put the
key in the ignition and turn the key to run, not start, when everything on
the dash lights up, if you listen, there will be a short, muffled hum, maybe
1-2 seconds coming from the rear of the car, this is the fuel pump
pressurizing the fuel lines.  Sometimes you have to have the door open and
lean out to hear it.  I don't know if the shop has already checked this for
you, but make sure the fuse is not blown.
A jack and jackstands should be sufficient (exercise safety) because most of
the work will probably be done from under the rear of the car and then in
the driveway for replacement.
Should you bother?  I don't know much the intimate details of your finances,
but in the past when money was tight I did all of this kind of work to my
cars because I couldn't afford to have others do it; whether or not I had
done it before was irrelevant because I couldn't afford it otherwise.
Nowadays, it is a little different, but since I learned so much from
necessity, I do a lot of things as preventative because I drive so many
miles.  My last car that I replaced had 265,000 miles on it and it still
ran, looked and drove like the day I bought it, but it was getting ready to
need some automatic transmission work and I just didn't feel like doing it
and risking my transmission repair failing on the interstate; my new car is
a standard.  The measure I use for "Is it worth it?" is, are your repair
bills adding up to the extent that you could replace the car with something
newer / more reliable having the trade off of a car payment.  Weighing all
the factors, constant car repairs are a huge drain on finances, time,
energy, contribute to higher stress and can interfere with your manner of
making a living.  I would weigh all of that and see what fits for you.
I do hope this is helpful to some extent.
Eddie
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4) From: Tom Ulmer
I have taken to negotiating the manufacturer's service manual with the
purchase after learning the value of them through the years of being a
necessity mechanic. The amount of information generated by the on-board
diagnostic systems amazes me.
On Dec 22, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Eddie Dove wrote:
	Lynne,
	
	Depending on model and year of your car, your fuel pump is probably
inside the gas tank which requires removing the gas tank.  It is important
to make sure everything get tightened, but not stripped; you don't want any
leaks.  On older carbureted cars the fuel line ran on about 6 PSI (pressure)
whereas the fuel injected models are about 36 PSI;  that tidbit is just to
reinforce the fact that you have to make sure it doesn't leak especially
with fuel pumps on fuel injected cars because they create a lot more
pressure..  All of this is from memory recall, so the numbers may not be
totally accurate, but they are just FYI anyway.
	
	Now, the best way to figure out if you want to take on this task is
to go spend about $12.00 on a Haynes Manual (any automotive parts store)
that covers the make, model and year of your car.  They are usually all in
one rack.  These manuals are written for the shade tree mechanic and tell
you how to do it step by step (in plain English), has pictures and
references to specifications and tools.  I buy one for all of my vehicles as
soon as they are available so that I can do much of the work myself. 
	
	Hope this helps ...
	
	Eddie
	
	On 12/22/06, Lynne  wrote:
	
		me how to replace a fuel pump on my [now deceased & sitting
in the
		repair shop - perhaps forever] Buick.
		
		sigh...
		
		Lynne (off to the stores by the T this morning...)
		
		[doing my part to spread my second generation Sicilian mom's
motto:
		"When You Feel Bad About Yourself, Just Look At Someone w/a
Worst
		Situation"]
		
		On Dec 21, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Derek Bradford wrote: 
		
		> Hi All,
		>
		> My oven has decided to act up, just before Christmas.  I
don't
		> particularly want to buy a new one, and I'm sure this can
be coaxed
		> into a little longer life.  Here's the background:
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		> It's a glorified toaster oven.  It calls itself a
convection oven
		> (it's the 6-slice on this page:
		>http://www.rivalproducts.com/productcat.aspx?cid7),
and I've been
		> using it daily for bread and pizza and everything else for
about 18
		> months.
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normal bake
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bottom element
		> for baking.  Ideally, I'd like to put the top element on a
toggle
		> switch so I can use it when I need it (preheating,
broiling, etc). 
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		> Please...my Christmas chicken (no turkeys in Korea) rather
depends on 
		> this oven.  Without it, I'm making fresh ravioli, but I'd
rather have
		> the chicken.  Any suggestions/guidance?  Feel free to
email me offlist
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I'm not sure 
		> what role the elements play in the circuitry.
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5) From: Eddie Dove
Yup and a paper clip became an accessory to the car as well to get that
computer to talk to me (prior to version II)!  Often saved a lot of time by
way of trial and error.
Eddie
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6) From: Leo Zick
and its getting worse and worse.  Nearly impossible to even read codes
without a hack or the proper tools.  Forget about troubleshooting and the
such.

7) From: Lynne
I just want to thank you, Eddie, and also everyone else here (Tom, Leo 
& Gary - don't know if I forgot anyone) for help regarding my car.
Got a recommendation for a place that is charging me $300 instead of 
the $900 Pep Boys tried to charge me. The tow truck drive also tried 
the reset button & hit the tank for me.  The battery was under 
warranty, so I got that replaced for free - and it almost starts, but 
doesn't turn over. (This guy also told me that he HATES this Pep Boys 
in Salem, MA - he was away when his wife had trouble w/her brakes, 
didn't know her husband is a mechanic... and tried to charge over 
charge her - til he found out. They have a really, really bad 
reputation for over charging people. Fortunately, they didn't get that 
$900 from me!)
My non-mechanical son said he wouldn't trust our attempt at fixing it 
ourselves; the mechanical son doesn't live w/us yet, and frankly, with 
all I have to do to move, I don't need another project! I am going to 
have them change the fuel filter, and ask them to check the fuse, too, 
while they are at it.)
Thanks for the advice.
(Now back to [ugh] packing!!)
Lynne

8) From: Eddie Dove
Lynne,
Glad to hear it.  $300 is much more reasonable; it should cover the parts
and a couple of hours of labor.
Eddie
On 12/26/06, Lynne  wrote:
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9) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Lynn,
Just a heads up on the Fuel Pump issue. I have just finished changing my
sons 1996 Plym. Neon's fuel pump out. The old one pumped but did not produce
enough pressure for the injection system. The cost of the new fuel pump was
$185.00 but would have been $215.00 if his tank had been a plastic tank
instead of a metal tank. So if you can get your replaced by someone for
$300.00 TOTAL price that's a good deal. If they are going to charge you
$300.00 JUST FOR LABOR, you might keep looking until you find someone more
reasonable.
Good luck to you and a Happy New Year also...
Terry T
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Thanks, Terry. THis was a total price. They have the car, & I'm kinda 
holding my breath til we actually get the car back - we'll see.
Lynne
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Thanks, Terry. THis was a total price. They have the car, & I'm kinda
holding my breath til we actually get the car back - we'll see. 
Lynne
On Dec 28, 2006, at 7:59 AM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
Lynn,
Just a heads up on the Fuel Pump issue. I have just finished changing
my sons 1996 Plym. Neon's fuel pump out. The old one pumped but did
not produce enough pressure for the injection system. The cost of the
new fuel pump was $185.00 but would have been $215.00 if his tank =
had
been a plastic tank instead of a metal tank. So if you can get your
replaced by someone for $300.00 TOTAL price that's a good deal. If
they are going to charge you $300.00 JUST FOR LABOR, you might keep
looking until you find someone more reasonable.
Good luck to you and a Happy New Year also...
Terry T
 
On 12/26/06, Lynne
<<0000,0000,EEEElynnebiz>
wrote: I just want to thank you, Eddie, and also everyone else here
(Tom, Leo
& Gary - don't know if I forgot anyone) for help regarding my
car. 
Got a recommendation for a place that is charging me $300 instead of
the $900 Pep Boys tried to charge me. The tow truck drive also tried
the reset button & hit the tank for me.  The battery was under
 warranty, so I got that replaced for free - and it almost starts, but
doesn't turn over. (This guy also told me that he HATES this Pep Boys
in Salem, MA - he was away when his wife had trouble w/her brakes,
didn't know her husband is a mechanic... and tried to charge over 
charge her - til he found out. They have a really, really bad
reputation for over charging people. Fortunately, they didn't get that
$900 from me!)
My non-mechanical son said he wouldn't trust our attempt at fixing it 
ourselves; the mechanical son doesn't live w/us yet, and frankly, with
all I have to do to move, I don't need another project! I am going to
have them change the fuel filter, and ask them to check the fuse, too, =
while they are at it.)
Thanks for the advice.
(Now back to [ugh] packing!!)
Lynne
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11) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Well you can't complain about the price if that is all they end up charging
you.
After having been under my sons car for the last month and a half (Just on
week-ends) and replacing parts I suspect are designed for nothing more than
generating revenue, I finally turned the car back over to the possession of
my son. His Christmas was his car back, mine was my life back.
Oh, by way of explanation, we had to do a complete engine rebuild which
included sending the engine to a machinist for a complete tear down. The
last month was spent finding all the items that required replacement to get
the thing up to snuff....
Here's hoping that the fuel pump was your only issue...and again, Happy New
Year...
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I'm so angry right now I could scream.
Of course. Why did I think the ex boyfriend (who cost me so much money =
in the past) could come thru for me!?
The car repair place said it'd be done by 3 or 3:30. Son was on his way =
by the T. I called for clearer directions - "Oh, we're having a problem =
w/the car... "
Turns out the part THEY ordered was wrong... in short, it'll cost lots =
more.
It cost me $54 to have it towed there. Now they are saying something 
like $450 or $500, because the part costs so much, and he said there 
are no rebuilt ones to be had for my model car. The junkbox that should =
be pushed off a cliff.
Like I NEED this now (no car, too few boxes, can't do the packing I 
need... )
Well, I don't think I have ANY solution right now. This is so 
ridiculous.
Lynne
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I'm so angry right now I could scream.
Of course. Why did I think the ex boyfriend (who cost me so much money
in the past) could come thru for me!?
The car repair place said it'd be done by 3 or 3:30. Son was on his
way by the T. I called for clearer directions - "Oh, we're having a
problem w/the car... "
Turns out the part THEY ordered was wrong... in short, it'll cost lots
more.
It cost me $54 to have it towed there. Now they are saying something
like $450 or $500, because the part costs so much, and he said there
are no rebuilt ones to be had for my model car. The junkbox that
should be pushed off a cliff.
Like I NEED this now (no car, too few boxes, can't do the packing I
need... )
Well, I don't think I have ANY solution right now. This is so
ridiculous.
Lynne
On Dec 26, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Eddie Dove wrote:
Lynne,
Glad to hear it.  $300 is much more reasonable; it should cover the
parts and a couple of hours of labor.
Eddie
On 12/26/06, Lynne <<
0000,0000,EEEElynnebiz>
wrote:I just want to thank you, Eddie, and also everyone else here
(Tom, Leo 
& Gary - don't know if I forgot anyone) for help regarding my
car.
Got a recommendation for a place that is charging me $300 instead of
the $900 Pep Boys tried to charge me. The tow truck drive also tried 
the reset button & hit the tank for me.  The battery was under
warranty, so I got that replaced for free - and it almost starts, but
doesn't turn over. (This guy also told me that he HATES this Pep Boys
 in Salem, MA - he was away when his wife had trouble w/her brakes,
didn't know her husband is a mechanic... and tried to charge over
charge her - til he found out. They have a really, really bad
reputation for over charging people. Fortunately, they didn't get that =
$900 from me!)
My non-mechanical son said he wouldn't trust our attempt at fixing it
ourselves; the mechanical son doesn't live w/us yet, and frankly, with
all I have to do to move, I don't need another project! I am going to 
have them change the fuel filter, and ask them to check the fuse, too,
while they are at it.)
Thanks for the advice.
(Now back to [ugh] packing!!)
Lynne
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So sorry - I thought I sent this off list!!
Lynne
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So sorry - I thought I sent this off list!!
Lynne
On Dec 28, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Lynne wrote:
I'm so angry right now I could scream.
Of course. Why did I think the ex boyfriend (who cost me so much money
in the past) could come thru for me!?
The car repair place said it'd be done by 3 or 3:30. Son was on his
way by the T. I called for clearer directions - "Oh, we're having a
problem w/the car... "
Turns out the part THEY ordered was wrong... in short, it'll cost lots
more.
It cost me $54 to have it towed there. Now they are saying something
like $450 or $500, because the part costs so much, and he said there
are no rebuilt ones to be had for my model car. The junkbox that
should be pushed off a cliff.
Like I NEED this now (no car, too few boxes, can't do the packing I
need... )
Well, I don't think I have ANY solution right now. This is so
ridiculous.
Lynne
On Dec 26, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Eddie Dove wrote:
Lynne,
Glad to hear it.  $300 is much more reasonable; it should cover the
parts and a couple of hours of labor.
Eddie
On 12/26/06, Lynne <<
0000,0000,EEEDlynnebiz>
wrote:I just want to thank you, Eddie, and also everyone else here
(Tom, Leo 
& Gary - don't know if I forgot anyone) for help regarding my
car.
Got a recommendation for a place that is charging me $300 instead of
the $900 Pep Boys tried to charge me. The tow truck drive also tried 
the reset button & hit the tank for me.  The battery was under
warranty, so I got that replaced for free - and it almost starts, but
doesn't turn over. (This guy also told me that he HATES this Pep Boys
 in Salem, MA - he was away when his wife had trouble w/her brakes,
didn't know her husband is a mechanic... and tried to charge over
charge her - til he found out. They have a really, really bad
reputation for over charging people. Fortunately, they didn't get that =
$900 from me!)
My non-mechanical son said he wouldn't trust our attempt at fixing it
ourselves; the mechanical son doesn't live w/us yet, and frankly, with
all I have to do to move, I don't need another project! I am going to 
have them change the fuel filter, and ask them to check the fuse, too,
while they are at it.)
Thanks for the advice.
(Now back to [ugh] packing!!)
Lynne
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14) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Exactly What year make and model is the car in question?
I thought $215 was steep for a fuel pump.
You might try a search of your regional Auto Part stores because most of
them now have on line access and you can check for the part you need just to
keep these guys honest. If the part is a lot different than what you find, I
would suggest to the mechanics that they use the less expensive one.
Why do I always suspect 'Bait and Switch' tactics when the price takes a
sudden steep hike? Plus, most shop figure they can pull one over on a woman
because they THINK that women can't figure out cars and parts prices....Use
the WEB to check on the stuff...
Sorry for the bad news...
TerryT
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It's a 1997 Buick Park Ave. Don't know if it's an Ultra - have no way 
of knowing, unless I find out fr. the repair shop (no info here, of 
course).
Trying to find the info online...
Lynne
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It's a 1997 Buick Park Ave. Don't know if it's an Ultra - have no way
of knowing, unless I find out fr. the repair shop (no info here, of
course).
Trying to find the info online...
Lynne
On Dec 28, 2006, at 4:13 PM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
Exactly What year make and model is the car in question?
I thought $215 was steep for a fuel pump.
You might try a search of your regional Auto Part stores because most
of them now have on line access and you can check for the part you
need just to keep these guys honest. If the part is a lot different
than what you find, I would suggest to the mechanics that they use the
less expensive one.
Why do I always suspect 'Bait and Switch' tactics when the price takes
a sudden steep hike? Plus, most shop figure they can pull one over on
a woman because they THINK that women can't figure out cars and parts
prices....Use the WEB to check on the stuff...
Sorry for the bad news...
 
TerryT
 
On 12/28/06, Lynne
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wrote: I'm so angry right now I could scream.
Of course. Why did I think the ex boyfriend (who cost me so much money =
in the past) could come thru for me!?
The car repair place said it'd be done by 3 or 3:30. Son was on his way
by the T. I called for clearer directions - "Oh, we're having a problem
w/the car... " 
Turns out the part THEY ordered was wrong... in short, it'll cost lots
more.
It cost me $54 to have it towed there. Now they are saying something
like $450 or $500, because the part costs so much, and he said there 
are no rebuilt ones to be had for my model car. The junkbox that should
be pushed off a cliff.
Like I NEED this now (no car, too few boxes, can't do the packing I
need... )
Well, I don't think I have ANY solution right now. This is so 
ridiculous.
Lynne
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16) From: Leo Zick
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So, they are sure it's the fuel pump?http://www.partstrain.com/products/Engine/Fuel_Delivery/Fuel_Pump/1997~BUICK~PARK_AVENUE~6~3.8~PARK--001.html
this seems to be the typical price, unless you can find a rebuilt one.
PS- it is a junkbox. get a Honda or Toyota instead :o
From: Lynne [mailto:lynnebiz] 
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:42 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Way OT: Car Repairs, Was:Help me fix my oven for Christmas
It's a 1997 Buick Park Ave. Don't know if it's an Ultra - have no way of
knowing, unless I find out fr. the repair shop (no info here, of course).
Trying to find the info online...
Lynne
On Dec 28, 2006, at 4:13 PM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
Exactly What year make and model is the car in question?
I thought $215 was steep for a fuel pump.
You might try a search of your regional Auto Part stores because most of
them now have on line access and you can check for the part you need just to
keep these guys honest. If the part is a lot different than what you find, I
would suggest to the mechanics that they use the less expensive one.
Why do I always suspect 'Bait and Switch' tactics when the price takes a
sudden steep hike? Plus, most shop figure they can pull one over on a woman
because they THINK that women can't figure out cars and parts prices....Use
the WEB to check on the stuff...
Sorry for the bad news...
 
TerryT
On 12/28/06, Lynne  wrote: I'm so angry right now I
could scream.
Of course. Why did I think the ex boyfriend (who cost me so much money 
in the past) could come thru for me!?
The car repair place said it'd be done by 3 or 3:30. Son was on his way
by the T. I called for clearer directions - "Oh, we're having a problem
w/the car... " 
Turns out the part THEY ordered was wrong... in short, it'll cost lots
more.
It cost me $54 to have it towed there. Now they are saying something
like $450 or $500, because the part costs so much, and he said there 
are no rebuilt ones to be had for my model car. The junkbox that should
be pushed off a cliff.
Like I NEED this now (no car, too few boxes, can't do the packing I
need... )
Well, I don't think I have ANY solution right now. This is so 
ridiculous.
Lynne
On Dec 26, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Eddie Dove wrote:
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17) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
I guess I should concider myself lucky to have gotten away with a $185.00
P.O.C. fuel pump...
Sorry about the price Lynn...
Concern yourself with your move for now, worry about the car AFTER...
TerryT
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Yes. (In the words of Scarlet O'Hara - "I'll worry about that  
tomorrow...") Problem is, I have too many tomorrows! ; > )
In the meantime -
Making good progress packing. The good part about moving right after  
Christmas - neighbors throw out boxes! Yippee!
And, despite the fact that I was foolish to pack away too many of my  
roasted beans - I dug them out & am enjoying a smooth cup of Sumatra  
Mandeling - mmm. Gives me plenty of inspiration to pack..
(now if only someone would come today & buy the rest of the furniture I  =
advertised!)
Lynne
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Yes. (In the words of Scarlet O'Hara - "I'll worry about that
tomorrow...") Problem is, I have too many tomorrows! ; > )
In the meantime -
Making good progress packing. The good part about moving right after
Christmas - neighbors throw out boxes! Yippee!
And, despite the fact that I was foolish to pack away too many of my
roasted beans - I dug them out & am enjoying a smooth cup of Sumatra
Mandeling - mmm. Gives me plenty of inspiration to pack..
(now if only someone would come today & buy the rest of the furniture
I advertised!)
Lynne
On Dec 29, 2006, at 7:30 AM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
I guess I should concider myself lucky to have gotten away
with a $185.00 P.O.C. fuel pump...
 
Sorry about the price Lynn...
Concern yourself with your move for now, worry about the car AFTER...
 
TerryT
 
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It's a 1997 Buick Park Ave. Don't know if it's an Ultra - have no way
of knowing, unless I find out fr. the repair shop (no info here, of
course).
Trying to find the info online... 
Lynne
On Dec 28, 2006, at 4:13 PM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
Exactly What year make and model is the car in question?
I thought $215 was steep for a fuel pump.
You might try a search of your regional Auto Part stores because most
of them now have on line access and you can check for the part you
need just to keep these guys honest. If the part is a lot different
than what you find, I would suggest to the mechanics that they use the
less expensive one. 
Why do I always suspect 'Bait and Switch' tactics when the price takes
a sudden steep hike? Plus, most shop figure they can pull one over on
a woman because they THINK that women can't figure out cars and parts
prices....Use the WEB to check on the stuff... 
Sorry for the bad news...
 
TerryT
 
On 12/28/06, Lynne
<<0000,0000,EEEElynnebiz>
wrote: I'm so angry right now I could scream.
Of course. Why did I think the ex boyfriend (who cost me so much money =
in the past) could come thru for me!?
The car repair place said it'd be done by 3 or 3:30. Son was on his way
by the T. I called for clearer directions - "Oh, we're having a
problem 
w/the car... " 
Turns out the part THEY ordered was wrong... in short, it'll cost lots
more.
It cost me $54 to have it towed there. Now they are saying something
like $450 or $500, because the part costs so much, and he said there 
are no rebuilt ones to be had for my model car. The junkbox that should
be pushed off a cliff.
Like I NEED this now (no car, too few boxes, can't do the packing I
need... )
Well, I don't think I have ANY solution right now. This is so 
ridiculous.
Lynne
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19) From: Lynne
Yes. (In the words of Scarlet O'Hara - "I'll worry about that 
tomorrow...") Problem is, I have too many tomorrows! ; > )
In the meantime -
Making good progress packing. The good part about moving right after 
Christmas - neighbors throw out boxes! Yippee!
And, despite the fact that I was foolish to pack away too many of my 
roasted beans - I dug them out & am enjoying a smooth cup of Sumatra 
Mandeling - mmm. Gives me plenty of inspiration to pack..
(now if only someone would come today & buy the rest of the furniture I =
advertised!)
Lynne
On Dec 29, 2006, at 7:30 AM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
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