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Topic: OT: Black Ice .. was: +Zass vs electric grinder (7 msgs / 277 lines)
1) From: Justin Marquez
On 1/15/07, Sandy Andina  wrote:
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How do you drive safely on black ice? Tire chains?
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)

2) From: Sandy Andina
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No guarantees, but safest--if you must drive at all--is to be in the  
right hand lane and go slowly and steadily with no sudden moves (like  
you have an egg under the gas pedal), and if you skid you should  
steer in whatever direction recommended for your drive-wheel system  
(front, rear, all).
On Jan 15, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Justin Marquez wrote:
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Sandy
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No guarantees, but safest--if =
you must drive at all--is to be in the right hand lane and go slowly and =
steadily with no sudden moves (like you have an egg under the gas =
pedal), and if you skid you should steer in whatever direction =
recommended for your drive-wheel system (front, rear, =
all).
On Jan 15, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Justin Marquez =
wrote:

How do = you drive safely on black ice? Tire chains?

= Sandywww.sass-music.com
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3) From: Aaron
Are tire chains legal in all states?  I know studs have been outlawed in 
many states several years ago, I was just curious if chains are still 
allowed?
Aaron

4) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
The driving isn't really that hard, just keep a steady speed and very slow
maneuvers, nothing quick. Now the hard part...Stopping...It can't be done
quickly...Always a slow gradual slowdown. One of the main problems most
people have is their driving vision. Be it tunnel vision or short vision.
You have to drive 1/4 to 1/2 mile down the road, know whats ahead and slow
or maneuver accordingly. I swear, a lot of people don't see past their hood
ornament or past the lane they are in. Move your head around, check
everything around you and be aware....Sometimes you cannot avoid a problem,
such as someone else careening down the road or across lanes, but you should
always be looking for the other guy. When I took Drivers Ed.....years ago,
it was called Defensive driving.
Another problem people are having is trusting their anti-lock braking
systems. If your not use to the feel of the pedal when the system takes
over, many people have a tendency to let off the brake thinking something is
wrong. A study of several Police officers killed in auto accidents indicate
that they had failed to understand their braking system and lost control of
their vehicle at a crucial time in a pursuit or highspeed response. If I
recall correctly these studies also indicated that the officers involved
were driving vehicles not their primary vehicle (I.E. family car), not
officers who are assigned a vehicle like our Highway Patrolmen here in Okla.
or from agencies that allow the officer to mantain control of a specific
vehicle....
With that said, I drove 80 miles yesterday on 2" thick ice. most of the way
was 50MPH because the surface was smooth and the traffic was lite to
non-existant, oh, and straight stretches of roadway helped. My worst moment
was traveling at about 20MPH and didn't see the thrown up 4 way stop sign
under the disabled traffic lights.
Too Long? Too Much Info???
O.K. I'm gone...
Terryt
On 1/15/07, Justin Marquez  wrote:
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5) From: Justin Marquez
On 1/15/07, TERRY TITSWORTH  wrote:
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This sounds just like what I have to do when towing that 14,700# 5th
wheel in good weather!
thanks,
and be safe!
Justin

6) From: Eddie Dove
Sandy wrote, "No guarantees", which is correct because sometimes its gets
you and there is nothing you can do about it.
Once upon a time, my younger brother was driving his car and I was driving
my father's loaded Thunderbird that he really liked, with brand new, nice
and fat Goodyears.  I was returning the car because I had borrowed it while
I was getting parts for my car and fixing it.  It was about 11:00 PM, rainy
and about 40 F.  There is a nicely curved bridge that takes one from route
40 to interstate 70; speed limit was 70 mph.  My brother was just a bit
ahead of me in the left land (I was in the right) and when he got on to the
bridge I saw his car get squirrelly, so I lifted to let it glide before I
got to the bridge.  When the Thunderbird hit the bridge, it totally lost it
and it took all of the driving skill and reflexes I had to keep from hitting
my brother; I missed him by about a quarter of an inch and got the car
straightened out and now my brother was off the bridge.  At the very moment
I relaxed, the car started to flat spin and I know, 'This is gonna hurt."  I
continued to try to drive, but there was nothing, and at the same time I put
my head back and relaxed.  As soon as it grabbed pavement, it went full tilt
head-on into the guard rail, then passenger side into the guard rail then
rear end into the guard rail;  It's 11:00 PM in the country, every light the
car has is out, the front wheels are pushed into the wheel wells and the
engine is just about under the car.  The only way I figured out which
direction I was facing is because several other vehicles finally came off
the bridge sideways ... headlights pointed at me but traveling from my right
to left.  My brother backs up and around the car so that it is now in his
headlights and when he sees the car, he wouldn't even get out.  Then I come
walking quickly back to his car get in and tell him to get us out of here
before we get killed ... he just looked at me.  Went to the house, called
the police, told Dad (he thought we were kidding), went back to meet the
police, and the officer asks ...
"Was that you driving that rocket?"
"Yup."
"Were you wearing your seat belt?"
"What do you think?"
"Yup ... I already called the salt trucks ... I'm filling out a report for
your insurance ... this is weather, not your fault ..."
By the way, the vanilla McDonald's milkshake ... EVERYWHERE ... and not a
drop on me.
On 1/15/07, Sandy Andina  wrote:
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7) From: Tom Ulmer
This story reminded me of a Marc Cohn song called "Silver Thunderbird".


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