Friends and family, Often, it seems the most expensive is what is required by our hobby and posts. For that sake of those just starting (and the archives) please share how you have made premium coffee obsession work on any budget! As always, all input welcome. Respectfully, Eddie South Coast, Mississippi -- My Home Coffee Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/">http://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
Bought a Cory VacPot for $3.62 tonight.... Brett On 1/17/07, Eddie Dove wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
Eddie, Thrift store popcorn popper $5.00. French Press off of Ebay $15.00, Hand Grinder off of Ebay 25.00, 8 pack sampler from Sweet Marias $17.00. So I would say you are in for less than $75.00. Doing it right! Dietrich Home Roaster with options $4,500.00, Olympia Cremina Espresso Machine $3200.00, LM G-3 espresso machine, $4,500.00, Royal Balance Vacuum Brewer, $500.00, Techinvorm Drip Machine, $180.00, 10 pounds of Isle of St. Helena $640.00. $500.00 of assorted greens from Sweet Marias, Mazzer Kony $1,300.00. $2,000.00 for odds and ends. Dedicated addition for a coffee room on the house $60,000.00. Something inbetween may be more realistic, but it is fun to dream. I wasn't sure which budget you might be referring to? Les 00 1/17/07, Eddie Dove wrote: <Snip>
Just bought the last 2 Presto Scandinavian Designs at the Covington K-Mart - $40 total, inc. tax. Mahvelous backups. Larry J (Lilboybrew) On 1/18/07, Brett Mason wrote: <Snip> -- "Having a positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it annoys enough people to make it worth the effort."
--Apple-Mail-1--305823868 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset O-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Started with: Melita cone filter - $4; used pop corn popper (free - hijacked from my family); 1/2lb sampler from SM Moved to: French press ($20); Milwaukee heat gun ($70ish); 20+ lbs greens from SM Wanting to upgrade to Les' dream café ;) On Jan 17, 2007, at 11:53 PM, Les wrote: Eddie, Thrift store popcorn popper $5.00. French Press off of Ebay $15.00, Hand Grinder off of Ebay 25.00, 8 pack sampler from Sweet Marias $17.00. So I would say you are in for less than $75.00. Doing it right! Dietrich Home Roaster with options $4,500.00, Olympia Cremina Espresso Machine $3200.00, LM G-3 espresso machine, $4,500.00, Royal Balance Vacuum Brewer, $500.00, Techinvorm Drip Machine, $180.00, 10 pounds of Isle of St. Helena $640.00. $500.00 of assorted greens from Sweet Marias, Mazzer Kony $1, 300.00. $2,000.00 for odds and ends. Dedicated addition for a coffee room on the house $60,000.00. Something inbetween may be more realistic, but it is fun to dream. I = wasn't sure which budget you might be referring to? Les 00 1/17/07, Eddie Dove wrote: Friends and family, Often, it seems the most expensive is what is required by our hobby and posts. For that sake of those just starting (and the archives) please share how you have made premium coffee obsession work on any budget! As always, all input welcome. Respectfully, Eddie South Coast, Mississippi -- My Home Coffee Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafehttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/--Apple-Mail-1--305823868">http://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/--Apple-Mail-1--305823868 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset O-8859-1 Started with:Melita cone = filter - $4; used pop corn popper (free - hijacked from my family); = 1/2lb sampler from SM
Les, What kind of hand grinders are you referring to? I would like to take a look at some of those for travel. Any suggestions? Thanks, Nate On 1/18/07, Les wrote: <Snip>
Started with a pop corn popper at the thrift store~$5, french press with coupon~$18, whirly blade grinder flee market~$5, SM sample pack. was very very happy! ecstatic! Then I joined this list... Since then, Cory gasketless vac pot (love it!) yard sale~$5, cheap tiny aluminum moka pot~gift from friend, presto scandinavian~$25 (I think I paid more than anyone for this :o( ). Now, drum for BBQ off of ebay~$86, RK motor (priceless!) well~$150, rotisserie kit~$39, brickettes~$15. Soon: Searching ebay for a hand mill (Zass or Trosser) and a good stovetop espresso pot. (can't wait to see what all the "good grinder" hype is about! I have high expectations) Future: *who knows! * ** *And if y'all don't stop with the "must have" beans, I may go BROKE! Ahhhh, stop the insanity!* ** On 1/18/07, Eddie Dove wrote: <Snip> -- Laura Micucci www.freshroastedforyou.com
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I just started at the end of December...so I haven't had a chance to really sink some cash into it. ;) But here's my basic starter kit: Fresh roast plus 8, second hand from friend: $50. Small blade grinder that I've had for years (I know, compared to a burr grinder it's horrible): gift Small 2-cup french press: gift Coffee shared by aforementioned friend: free! Sample pack, pound of coffee, and cotton and valve bags from SM: $27ish, I think. Total: $77ish. Now, payday's tomorrow...so look out. ;) I'm starting to understand the pleasures of having a 'coffee cellar' that I can play with. Cult of Coffee. I like it.
I started with just a sampler pack from Sweet Maria's. Roasted in a wok until I decided that the vent hood over the stove was just not going to keep the roast smoke out of the house. But I still haven't had to spend much money: Heat gun------------------$29 Stainless steel bowl----$6 Yama vac' pot-----------$35 French press------------FREE Two steam toys--------FREE (People can't give those things away fast enough when they find out you like coffee.) Armin Trosser grinder-$15 Total cost-----------------$85 ( I don't count the cost of greens because even the most expensive ones I've bought have been cheaper than any of the pre-roasted coffee beans I was buying before) On 1/18/07, Silvia Marsh wrote: <Snip>
I started out very cheaply! Heat gun: would have been $30 or 35 (but I already had one, so ZERO) New Dog bowl: $8 Smaller bowl for small batches $1 (dollar store) Wooden spoon: already had one, so ZERO set of 2 tight mesh colanders: $10 Cheap grinder: $50 French Press: $15 8-lb sampler pack $32 + 8 shipping = $40 Total: $124.00 Upgrades to grinder and addition of an espresso machine came along later, but I still use the same set-up for the actual roasting. I have no need to upgrade to a "real" roaster as I like doing it this way! It's very relaxing. :) Sheila
I started out with an RK Drum and things just got outta hand...which is my usual Modus Operandi. To date, this is where I am Capresso MT500S $150.00 RK Drum $440.00 45K BTU Grill $199.00 Silvia (used) $350.00 PID for Silvia $237.00 Rancilio Rocky Grinder/ accessories $362.95 Macap M4 grinder $385.00 accessories/coffee $299.30 accessories/coffee $129.64 Technivorm KBTS (used)135 $135.00 Air Pots $280.58 Coffee $132.31 Coffee $67.71 Coffee $109.00 Coffee $42.44 Coffee $281.15 Coffee $114.23 Coffee $30.32 Coffee $180.00 $3,925.63
Nate A Zass or a Trosser are the best. Les On 1/18/07, Nate wrote: <Snip>
Eddie Dove wrote: <Snip> I started out with a popper that we already had. I used an extension cord to extend the roast. Which I have now learned could possibly be dangerous to internal wiring of the house. I also tilted, turned off and on, stirred etc to try to control the roast because I couldn't afford dimmers, PID etc. and wouldn't know how to install them. Already had a Bodum Antigua. Bought a Zass on eBay for about $30 for espresso. Turns out it doesn't grind very evenly. These are hit or miss. Already had a Krups Novo pump espresso machine. These can be found for pretty cheap. Got a tamper for my birthday. Got a Swiss Gold One Cup from SM (no longer available) for $10 something. Just recently got a Presto Scandinavian for $20 and found somebody who sold me a used Swiss Gold filter for $10. Partly got that for my wife who drinks more coffee than me but I use it now too. Switched to SC/TO. Already had a stir crazy and got the Turbo Oven on eBay. Started roasting a little for customers and bought an RK drum setup. Took a while to pay for it but I use it exclusively now with very occasional customers too. We now use the popper again for popcorn with no ill effects on taste. JeffO
I started with: Poppery I : $3 @ Thrift Store Whirly Blade grinder: $10 Melita #2 pourover cone: $3 TOTAL: $16 Current setup (5 years later): Poppery I: $3 @ Thrift Store KA Pro Line: $99 Presto Scandinavian: $18 Bodum Chambourd FP: Free (used Amazon.com coupon w/the KA Pro) Melita #2 pourover cone: $3 TOTAL: $123 The Poppery is modded to separare the fan and heater so I have rudimentary profile control and am getting excellent roasts. I need to get a Swissgold for the Presto and I would eventually like to get a Technivorm, but for now I'm pretty pleased.
My investment: Whirly-Pop: (yard sale) $1 Cooper Thermometor: ~$20 SM sample packs & one or two 'large' (to me) shipments: somewhere between $100 - $150 Circulon Pot (to replace broken Whirly-Pop), purchased marked down at T.J.Maxx: $9.99 Heat resistant spatula (to stir the beans), (T.J.Maxx): ~$8.99 tiny Moka Pot (also a T.J.Maxx mark down): $9.99 larger Moka Pot (T.J. Maxx credit, so sort of free): $12.99 Asparagus Pot & Wire Basket insert (for cooling beans, pot used for cooking, blending): $12.99 Gaggia Espresso (not working yet): $5.00 (yard sale) KMB, French Press, & lots & lots of free SM's green beans to last seemingly forever: Free (tradition winnings)
I'm just starting, so... Poppery II: already had Mesh basket: $3 *$ Bodum Chambourd French Press: $28 but used a *$ gift card, so no cost to me Armin Trosser hand mill - $15 from ebay Total: $18 I just paid $48 or so for an order of beans from SM. My first order and boy, I've never paid this much for coffee before at one time. A little pricier up front than the 8 oclock I was used to drinking. :^) Honestly, I've just tried roasting some beans from a local coffee shop. They sell roasted beans online but will sell me some greens in the shop. First I tried Costa Rica and then secondly some Peru La Florida. Frankly, it was OK. Not bad, but not the coffee nirvana I was expecting. Hopefully my order from SM will be better. I got 2# of Misti, 2# of another, and then the 4# sampler. Last night was the first time to try a thermometer. I borrowed one from work were we have some turkey deep fryers. Does add an interesting dimension. Paul
Thrift stores - Goodwill and Salvation Army - nothing is more than $5: Two Bunn Brewers (1 thermal & 1 1980s pouromatic); 3 original Popperys; 9 Poppery 2s; about 10 Bodum French Presses; a 1980s Krups pump espresso machine; a 1980s Delonghi pump espresso machine; and a Zessenhaus hand mill. The thermometer ($15) from SMs and Rocky grinder are the only new things I have ever bought for this hobby. You just can't find good used electronic grinders at the thrift store.
man some of you all are doing this on the serious down low. I thought I was good at under 500 guess there is s lesson to be learned. David
"...stop the insanity!" Why? I (re)started out about 3 years ago. With three grown children, my Melitta AromaRoast was somewhere, but we have several air poppers. "Why not-" I thought. I knew what roasted coffee looks like. It doesn't puff up like popcorn, and I had read about brewing temperatures and listening for the Cracks. I knew neither before. I figured I could do no worse than chase a few beans from the popper so I set it over a bowl and cookie sheet. I couldn't recalled the roasting of a quarter century earlier, just that I was non-plussed by it. This time I had learned something new and I heard the cracks. After Second Crack started rolling, the beans were starting to look a little oily and the smoke smelled terriffic. I did let them age for the time it took to break out the Grindmaster mill. That thing has run for thirty years. All this after cooling on a cold cookie sheet kept for an hour in the freezer to sink the bean heat.. Sooo- my equipment expenditure was zero, except that we already had the two Grindmaster mills. Boyer sold me the second one cheap. Couldn't pass it up. You can find all this stuff for pennies at a thrift store or maybe a "Blue light special." Fresh roasted coffee will taste incomparably better than whatever Gunk you buy or brew now. You'll experience unimaginable flavors when you "Roll your own." Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! "The indisputable truth is that no coffee is fresh if it isn't fresh roasted." - - Martin Diedrich
David F Iseminger wrote: <Snip> Part of the reason I do it on the cheap is because we don't make much money. Part of it is because I want home roasting to truly be less expensive than buying roasted coffee. That way we actually save money but get MUCH better coffee. And because of this I let myself splurge on a $6+ pound of Brazil or $7.20 pound of Yemen. Thankfully I'm not into Guats or Panama and am not tempted to buy $15 per pound beans although I did try the Geisha at a friends and it was spectacular even if not my preference. JeffO
Hi Jeff, I'm kind of in the middle group on watching the $$$ - but raising 7 kids puts my family in the "watch every nickel" role... Here's one method for success: I found certain coffees I really like, and then purchased three 20lb bags from Sweet Maria's. This drops the price to under $4 per pound including shipping. I consider these our staple coffee. THen I use "Harvey Twelves" to taste test the occasional beans I don't want to miss, usually with two 5 pounders and a 2 pound chaser... Arguably this attention can deliver incredible coffee, wonderful variety, and still feel like I am managing my checkbook reasonably... Cheers, Brett On 1/18/07, Jeff Oien wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
Well, I don't see the need to spend a whole lot for good coffee. I also enjoy the process of roasting by hand with the HG/DB method and see no need to "waste" money on a roaster. However, I do now own a Gaggia Baby, better grinder, and other accessories which I've bought through sacrificing on my other hobby which is collecting fountain pens. I sold a few pens to pay for the espresso machine, grinder, and many other coffee-related expenses. So none of that has come from the household budget, other than the beans themselves. Really, my pen habit has helped me support my coffee habit! If you think being obsessed with coffee is expensive, you ought to start a pen collection. Now THAT is expensive! ;) Sheila Jeff Oien wrote: <Snip>
Hi, I do the same thing except I'm roasting less for customers now so I don't buy 3 20 pounders anymore. But I have a friend who does and I can mooch some off him. I forgot to mention that I realize costs of electricity, propane etc also factor in, but with what you said below it can still save a good amount of money. It's amazing how little that great coffee can cost when buying those 20s. And Tom is providing the service of cupping for us. I still have some Java Prince and Sulawesi from a couple 20s. I hope the Prince comes back. JeffO Brett Mason wrote: <Snip>
I *never* find any brewing or grinding (except whirly blade) equiptment at thrift stores around here. People must hold on to their coffee stuff in NE PA. good for you! On 1/18/07, SamToren wrote: <Snip> -- Laura Micucci www.freshroastedforyou.com
Laura, for the last yeqar and a half, I've found nothing interesting in the stores in Cedar Rapids. Then last night, a Cory Vac-Pot minus filter rod. But I have several extras of those, so I made a complete vacpot. Of course someone will be buying new seals, but that's standard with these... Hang in there, come back every so often, and eventually... Brett On 1/18/07, Laura Micucci wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
had i started @ thrift stores, i'd have been in it really cheap: i bought my first popper (white poppery ii) for $40 cost+ship (i didn't know any better, i hadn't joined this list yet!) and my second (salton (pii clone)) for $4 plus $9 ship off ebay. my third (1400w popcorn pumper (poppery i clone), the one i use now) cost me a whopping $1.99 (no ship) at the thrift store, and has a 120v fan, so i wouldn't have had to shell out $10.49 for the 25.2v 2a transformer to split wire the salton's fan and heater (still haven't been able to open the pii-i got the model w/ hex screws, really hard to reach w/ a socket), unless i wanted to do miKe's frankenformer fan mod (even w/o, i can do 6oz batches in the pumper). grinder: well, still working on that... using my girlfriend's cuisinart coffee bar blade grinder (free, read girlfriend's, with the pulse and shake method it actually works pretty well... at least for paper drip). got the *$ barista burr grinder (solis maestro burrs) for $2 at thrift store but the motor's dead, haven't replaced it yet. methods of brewing: proctor silex drip pot (free, handed down from parents) works great if water is run through twice and i wait about 2 min to put carafe in place, *$ barista solo (free, great b-day gift from girlfriend) gets water nice and hot (not sure what temp, but @least 195), melitta #2 pour-over drip ($3). so, had i hit the thrift store first, i could have had a great air roaster setup for $1.99 (about $15 when you include mods-switch, dimmer, ext. cords, project box (i used a $1 store plastic sterilite box). i won't go into what the SC/CO (now e(lectric)WOK/CO, details coming soon @ homeroasters.org) setup has cost me, as i have spent WAY too much on various parts that ended up not working out for me. southcoastcoffeeroaster wrote: <Snip>
okay, so i forgot about the soup can chimney(s) (now using 3, long, actual roast chamber from a can of scrubbing bubbles (washed thoroughly), can of asparagus around that, progresso soup can around that for insulation and better fit), wire mesh cut from $1 store splatter screen (since i broke some of the pumper's air fins trying to widen them, chaff and even beans were falling in, yikes!), and cooper thermometer. the first two might actually fit into my previous $15 estimate (i think i overshot), and as mike mentioned, cooper therm is $18.90, so approx $33.90 plus sampler pack plus any brewing equipment you might already have can get you started better coffee than you will probably ever buy using my current air roaster setup. note, i'm still not using a variac, just a switch (another revision, my pumper already has a switch, so that's an extra $.50-$1 you don't have to spend on that mod) to control heat. stereoplegic wrote: <Snip>
re: the " *$ barista burr grinder (solis maestro burrs) for $2 at thrift store but the motor's dead. " Don't replace the motor, man- I'll almost guarantee the motor itself is fine. Two things can stop it: 1. There's a thermal fuse strapped to the field winding of the motor (My $0.99 thriftie's was open) 2. The bean hopper has to be set in place and turned clockwise to a grind setting, or it won't run. On mine, the mounting ears were all broken off the gearmotor and it rattled around inside the housing. Not the last Solis Maestro on earth, so I didn't fix it other than bypassing the Fth. Motor ran fine. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! -- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
This has been a GREAT thread! I've appreciated seeing what everyone considers 'essential' and that it is possible to do this on the cheap. Thanks to everyone who commented. Reading and learning, Marci in Illinios --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
I'd say Martin sums up what is essential to roasting quite succinctly: "Heat + Beans, all the rest is commentary". Then just add "fresh ground coffee + hot water = coffee". Roasting on the cheap can be as simple as using a wooden spoon and frying pan on the stovetop or cookie sheet in the oven. Grinding as cheap as a mortar and pestle. Brewing as cheap as a pot to heat water and a clean sock. Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/ From: homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Marci Morey Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:28 AM This has been a GREAT thread! I've appreciated seeing what everyone considers 'essential' and that it is possible to do this on the cheap. Thanks to everyone who commented. Reading and learning, Marci in Illinios