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Topic: Cotton bags for green coffee (19 msgs / 378 lines)
1) From: Brian Kamnetz
I am going to order greens, and I would like to try the cotton bags Tom
sells for storing greens. Also, I plan to order 12 pounds and "Hold for
Harvey".
So, how does this work? Do I have to order the same size cotton bags as lots
of coffee? E.g., if I were to order 5# of Yellow Bourbon, would I also order
a 5# cotton bag? Does SM then ship the beans in the cotton bag? Or what?
Very specific advice would be much appreciated!
Thanks,
brian

2) From: Paul Martin
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Brian,
 
That's the way I understand it since they say they only ship the bag with
coffee in it.  For instance, I just placed my first time order for 2# each
of two different coffees, so I added 2 of the 2# cotton bags.  At least
that's my understanding, but being about as green as the beans I'm roasting,
YMMV. :^)
 
Paul  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Brian Kamnetz
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:32 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: +Cotton bags for green coffee
I am going to order greens, and I would like to try the cotton bags Tom
sells for storing greens. Also, I plan to order 12 pounds and "Hold for
Harvey". 
So, how does this work? Do I have to order the same size cotton bags as lots
of coffee? E.g., if I were to order 5# of Yellow Bourbon, would I also order
a 5# cotton bag? Does SM then ship the beans in the cotton bag? Or what?
Very specific advice would be much appreciated!
Thanks,
brian 

3) From: Vicki Smith
My beans come in plastic ziplocks, rather than the cotton bags I've 
ordered. I'm not sure though if this is because they are shipping to Canada.
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4) From: Justin Marquez
On 1/19/07, Brian Kamnetz  wrote:
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If you want the cotton bags, order them at the same time and same size
as the coffee.  Mine have arrived with the coffee in the usual plastic
bags with the cotton bags loose or with the plastic bag inserted into
the cotton bag. Once, I received 2 1lb plastic bags with the 2# coffee
order and the cotton bag for the 2#.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)

5) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
This appears to be the standard way of shipping them, beans in the plastic
bags and the cotten bags placed neatly within the box.
TerryT
On 1/19/07, Vicki Smith  wrote:
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6) From: Brian Kamnetz
Hi Jim,
The question I intended to ask goes something like this: If I order a 5# bag
of Yellow Bourbon, and want to store the coffee in SM cotton bags, do I need
to order a 5# cotton bag, or can I order, e.g., five 1# cotton bags? It
seemed like it might be handier to have smaller bags. But maybe the 5#
cotton bag would be just as handy.
I think I will follow Justin's suggestion and order cotton bags that match
the "denomination" of the coffee lots I order.
Thanks all for your insights.
Brian
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7) From: cndlguy
When I have ordered coffee with bags the coffee still came in the plastic b=
ags, the cloth bags were just included in the box.
 
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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:38:37 AM
Subject: RE: +Cotton bags fo=
r green coffee
Brian,
 
That's the way I understand it since th=
ey say they only ship the bag with coffee in it.  For instance, I just plac=
ed my first time order for 2# each of two different coffees, so I added 2 o=
f the 2# cotton bags.  At least that's my understanding, but being about as=
 green as the beans I'm roasting, YMMV. :^)
 
Paul
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homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-admin=
rias.com] On Behalf Of Brian Kamnetz
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:32=
 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: +Cotton bags for green=
 coffee
I am going to order greens, and I would like to try the cot=
ton bags Tom sells for storing greens. Also, I plan to order 12 pounds and =
"Hold for Harvey". 
So, how does this work? Do I have to order the sam=
e size cotton bags as lots of coffee? E.g., if I were to order 5# of Yellow=
 Bourbon, would I also order a 5# cotton bag? Does SM then ship the beans i=
n the cotton bag? Or what?
Very specific advice would be much apprecia=
ted!
Thanks,
brian

8) From: Justin Marquez
On 1/19/07, cndlguy  wrote:
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Since the cotton bags close with a drawstring there would be a
significant chance of leakage and resulting in the dreaded "UPS Brown
Blend".
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)

9) From: Brett Mason
My 20lb order burlap bags from SM have drawstrings too.  SM takes the time
to tape across the opening with shippers tape.  Very helpful.
Still some beans are incessant jumpers - and I find them in the bottom of
the box.  Do I throw out the dreaded UPS Blend beans?  Would you throw them
out?
My Answer to follow later in the day...
Brett
On 1/19/07, Justin Marquez  wrote:
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10) From: Justin Marquez
On 1/19/07, Brett Mason  wrote:
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I would NOT throw out a UPS Blend. I'd roast it, enjoy it, and wonder
what proportions the blend ended up!  (The way "life is", it would
probably be the best cuppa ever with no way to repeat it!)
If it involved decaf and regular, I would separate them.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)

11) From: David Schooley
It only matters with the SM logo bags; you can order plain bags up to the
limit stated on the web site. So, in your case, you can order five or
more 1# bags because they do not have the logo, and you can order one 5#
logo bag to go with your 5# order of Yellow Bourbon.
How the bags and beans get packed seems to depend on what was ordered. If
the combination of beans and logo bags is unambiguous, each plastic bag of
greens may end up in a logo bag, and the cloth bags will also have labels
stuck on them. I have also received shipments where the logo bags were
folded neatly in the bottom of the box.
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12) From: MichaelB
Brett,
I have two UPS mugs I got free at our local UPS store. I think you have a
good case for requesting free mugs for your UPS blend. The least they could
do under the circumstances.
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13) From: MichaelB
Brian,
The Sweet Maria's logo bags can only be ordered with corresponding numbers
and weights of matching beans. If you do this, the bill comes artistically
marked up with different color magic marker circles and arrows linking the
bags to the beans. That alone makes it worth doing. And I have always gotten
my orders with the plastic bags inside the cotton bags. Both sets with
labels for the beans I purchased.
On 1/19/07, Brian Kamnetz  wrote:
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14) From: Brett Mason
I wrestle with the demand for mugs, only because they got me my SweetMarias
Beans, without losing a single bean.  They weren't involved in the packing,
and nothing arrived broken...
My answer from before is - Yes I do the UPS blend - it's from the finest
beans!
Brett
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15) From: raymanowen
Order a 20# lot of coffee including two 5# cotton logo bags and ten 1# bags.
What do you think you will receive???
There's a reason coffee is cheaper in the 20# lot than in smaller lots.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
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16) From: Les
Ray,
You get 12 empty bags and a big plastic bag of coffee!
Les
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17) From: raymanowen
I have yet to get a 20. I'd really like to do it. Heck, I'd like to set up =
a
shop and need the 50K bags to feed der Kaffee-Hölle-Röster, or the RayO
Roast, as one fellow suggested.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
"The indisputable truth is that no coffee is fresh if it isn't fresh
roasted." - - Martin Diedrich

18) From: David Morgenlender
A few days ago I ran into this dilemma & played the safe route, I ordered=
 2 lbs.
each of 6 coffees, and 6 2lb SM cotton bags.  Today Harvey arrived.  I =
received
6 plastic bags full of beans, each of which was inserted into an SM =
cotton bag.
All 12 bags had the appropriate label attached.  BTW, most if not all =
plastic
bags were inserted opening down into its cotton bag ... a clever way to =
prevent
the UPS Brown Blend!  Now if I had only realized I could get away with =
including
additional cotton bags for greens & plastic valve bags for roasted, I =
would have
done so!
BTW, here's what I ordered:
 Colombia Cauca Organic -La Esperanza
 Hawaii Kona - Kowali Farm Typica
 Guatemala "Blue Quetzal" Bourbon
 Yemen Mokha Mattari - Full City+
 SM's Moka Kadir Blend
 SM's Decaf Espresso Blend
I really want to roast those SO beans ASAP ... unfortunately I still have=
 plenty
of roasted beans from my session a few days ago.  I've gotta learn to =
handle
more caffeine :) !
Thinking ahead ... does anybody re-use the cotton bags?  Do you wash them=
 first?
Dave
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19) From: raymanowen
It's not as dry here as when we first came out for school, but it's still
nothing like the humidity in Peoria. It's dry. The Ziploc shipping bags from
SM maintain the original moisture level in the beans. Wouldn't you like to
live across the street from SM? Fresh Roast would take on a whole new
significance.
I just roasted the last 462g of the Panama Auction Lot Don Juan?-Don Pacho?
Geisha to C+1/2, 22 hours ago. They arrived 18 months ago in the same ziploc
shipping bag I just emptied. The cup is even more sumptuous than my original
notes. Roast back then was further into Crack 2. This time I just tickled
the start of 2nd. Maybe it's better because I learned new words?
I had been despairing of coffee for almost two weeks - Snow- Cold- X4!) I
had broken two (2) shovels shoveling the white sh__tuff. We're past the
desperation blend stage. I had nothing to even blend. Wala na.
Did I ever cool the roast fast! Two Seconds in the colander in the blower
intake, and I was stirring the previously smoking beans with my bare hands.
In 30 seconds, there was No Heat left in the beans - or me! 20 minutes after
I got set up outside, I had everything wrapped up back inside. BRRR! But
it's Worth It. This is so worth a little discomfort.
If you don't like the way the coffee tastes when you roast immediately upon
receipt from Sweet Maria's- of course, that's the way Tom cupped it- the
moisture content is too high. All is not lost!
Dry Them Out. If they won't dry out fast enough on their own in a woven bag,
build a desiccator. The best way is to avoid heat. Just use vacuum. Try it
with a slice of fresh baked bread if you have doubts. The slice of fresh
bread will dry out on its own, but if you're in a hurry use vacuum. Instant
croutons!
This coffee is just gorgeous.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
"The indisputable truth is that no coffee is fresh if it isn't fresh
roasted." - - Martin Diedrich
On 1/20/07, David Morgenlender  wrote:
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Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976


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