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Topic: and then a miracle occurred (maybe)... (7 msgs / 226 lines)
1) From: Roy Gordon
My boss has agreed to purchase an espresso machine for our group. Not 
for the company.
Requirements: superauto,  can be plumbed in (without modification)
Any suggestions? Don't know how much he (the company) is willing to 
spend. I think it's likely that he'll take any reasonable suggestion 
from me and see if he can get it approved.
This is the corporate headquarters, located in downtown San Francisco, 
of a Serious Business Company. I told my boss that if it were discovered 
that a San Francisco company didn't have an espresso machine--especially 
a company with so many expensively suited visitors--we'd probably be 
fined an inordinate amount of money and forced to move from the City.
I did mention the 3 group Faema (yes, I know it's not an auto). I told 
him we might be able to score a used one for about $10K. Somehow I got 
the impression this wasn't quite what he had in mind. Perhaps it also 
didn't help when I suggested acquiring a job req for a barrista.
TIA.
Roy

2) From: James
I can't speak for the superautos, but one thing to consider is that unless =
you have exemplary water coming out of the pipes, _don't_ directly plumb th=
e unit. Here in Southern CA. the water is not sufficient out of the pipes a=
nd must be filtered and it makes a huge difference in the end product.
  =
James in Southern CA.
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From: Roy Gordo=
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To: homeroast
Sent: Tuesday=
, January 23, 2007 4:17:08 PM
Subject: +and then a miracle occurred (mayb=
e)...
My boss has agreed to purchase an espresso machine for our group=
. Not 
for the company.
Requirements: superauto,  can be plumbed in =
(without modification)
Any suggestions? Don't know how much he (the co=
mpany) is willing to 
spend. I think it's likely that he'll take any reas=
onable suggestion 
from me and see if he can get it approved.
This i=
s the corporate headquarters, located in downtown San Francisco, 
of a Se=
rious Business Company. I told my boss that if it were discovered 
that a=
 San Francisco company didn't have an espresso machine--especially 
a com=
pany with so many expensively suited visitors--we'd probably be 
fined an=
 inordinate amount of money and forced to move from the City.
I did me=
ntion the 3 group Faema (yes, I know it's not an auto). I told 
him we mi=
ght be able to score a used one for about $10K. Somehow I got 
the impres=
sion this wasn't quite what he had in mind. Perhaps it also 
didn't help =
when I suggested acquiring a job req for a barrista.
TIA.
Roy
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3) From: Michael Dhabolt
Wait for the (not superauto) LM GS3, will probably be $5K or slightly less
(get your order in now...the list is growing).  Doesn't require flushes or
temp surfing of any sort....walk up - grind, tamp and pull shot...real,
serious, no compromises espresso.  A class act in any environment - even
SF.  Best beans/roasts on the planet----right across the Bay. Play your
cards right and you could become the coffee king, and visit Tom, Marie and
progeny (name yet?) every week.
Mike (just plain)

4) From: Michael Dhabolt
Sorry about the follow up, but.......why would a "Serious Business Company"
want to present itself with a machine whose purpose in life is to satisfy a
compromise......if you can't talk em out of a superauto, Franke makes some
pretty good machines......if you want espresso - go Italian.....if you want
a superauto - go Swiss.
Mike (just plain)

5) From: derbyrm
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I wonder how many times a certified espresso brewing maestro would be =
willing to visit your office for a flat rate of $10,000.
Roger
derbyrm http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm

6) From: Leo Zick
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Interesting advice. From what ive seen, I think its sound. Spanish machines
seem good, solid, but lack consistency or quality control, so its hit or
miss. American machines are ok, but lack the luster of Italian.  A lot of
Italians like krups, but most will recommend gaggia just as fast as lavazza,
so I think that's more tradition based then performance.  Also, most
Italians, surprisingly, don't have a machine in their home, when it costs
$0.60 to buy an espresso better than most can make, I guess its hard to
justify. Lol. Or, maybe I just only know poor Italians :p
Re: superauto, it seems there isn't much choice other than swiss, though,
guess who now owns jura?  Gaggia.  :p
From: Michael Dhabolt [mailto:michael.dhabolt] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:51 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +and then a miracle occurred (maybe)...
Sorry about the follow up, but.......why would a "Serious Business Company"
want to present itself with a machine whose purpose in life is to satisfy a
compromise......if you can't talk em out of a superauto, Franke makes some
pretty good machines......if you want espresso - go Italian.....if you want
a superauto - go Swiss. 
Mike (just plain)

7) From: Paul Martin
Being a fairly newbie at this, we have an Astoria Argenta SAE1 J on
semi-permanent loan (long story) at work.  By default, I've become the
keeper of the machine.  I don't know how to program it with no manual, =
so
I've just been using the preset.  I just did a descaling but water =
pressure
still seems a little low.  Still, it looks very classy to me and most =
seem
happy with the shots I pull.  In the year and a half we've had it, I've =
only
replaced the grouphead gasket and of course occasional cleaning.  It can =
be
plumbed in, but I just drop the line into a jug and refresh it with =
filtered
water.
Here's the description:
Electronic version equipped with a built-in microcomputer which overseas =
all
operations and provides volumetric dosage of coffee. The touch pad =
control
can program 4 different coffee dosages and select them automatically and
independently for each group. Manual push button for semi automatic =
brewing.
Boiler and pipes made of copper. Body made of steel, stainless steel and
plastic agglomerate. Double gauge for boiler and pump pressure control.
Warning light indicating the machine is turned on. Electric cup warmer.
Automatic water entry and water purifier. One additional filter handle =
(eg:
2gr. = 3 handles). 2 Cappuccino milk frothers. Procon water pressure =
pump.
5L Boiler. Electrical: 220V 2000W Delivery, installation and training.
Astoria lists it at $4100 or so, but I'm sure it can be found for less.
Paul


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