Year's ago I made the decision to no longer gift coffees to anyone that didn't already grind there own coffee. If they don't care enough about quality to grind for each brewing they aren't going to appreciate quality coffee anyway so not going to waste it by grinding in advance to go stale. (I have gifted grinders to some who couldn't afford them though.) Sure it could be argued that a week pre-ground home roast still better than a lot of stuff out there, but that's not the point. I'm just not going to cast pearls to swine as the saying goes. Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/ From: homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Eddie Dove Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:42 PM Jason, First of all, Welcome! Second of all, don't make somebody else's problem yours ... unless they are going to pay for it. Are you giving them the coffee or selling it to them? If you are giving it to them, tell them to buy the $20 Bodum C Mill from Sweet Maria's and get yourself the SMP; otherwise, they may not enjoy your coffee as much pre-ground. If you are selling it to them and grinding a lot of coffee, then I would suggest stepping up to the Rancilio Rocky for durability & serviceability. Yet another alternative is to use a cordless drill (at a slow speed) with your Zass. Eddie -- Errare humanun est - sed perseverare diabolicum My Home Coffee Roasting Blog and Profiles for the Gene Cafe http://southcoastcoffeeroaster.blogspot.com/ Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archives http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
miKe, I completely understand you point. However, I gift whole bean coffee even to people I know not to grind their own. This method has actually converted a small percentage of those who didn't grind their own. Not a large percentage of converts mind you but one more into the fold is better than one less. My sister-in-law for example didn't grind fresh until two weeks ago when I brought up some SM beans for the weekend. The following Monday, much to the chagrin of my brother, she bought a grinder and only has whole beans. She doesn't roast her own but keeps asking for me to send her fresh roasted. Change the world one cup at a time... Kevin
I find myself doing the same thing. My aunt likes coffee, and goes out of her way to buy better than grocery store stuff, but then has it ground. I thought of sending her some beans, but until she has a grinder - no. I did, however, gift my old grinder to an Army buddy of mine that has done two combat tours lately & and sent him some beans. He was extremely excited. And I found a home for that cuisinart crappo burr grinder (replaced with a rocky). On Jan 25, 2007, at 10:43 PM, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip>
I have actually just been buying grinders for friends and family. Maybe I am just too generous? But, I tend to think of myself as a missionary... spreading the good news. Michael L. Michael Fraley, MD I find myself doing the same thing. My aunt likes coffee, and goes out of her way to buy better than grocery store stuff, but then has it ground. I thought of sending her some beans, but until she has a grinder - no. I did, however, gift my old grinder to an Army buddy of mine that has done two combat tours lately & and sent him some beans. He was extremely excited. And I found a home for that cuisinart crappo burr grinder (replaced with a rocky).
On 1/26/07, L. Michael Fraley, MD wrote: <Snip> Me, too. There are Krups Moka Brews at my sis-in-law, son, and daughter's house. Since my coffee is usually bagged up when I give it away to others, I ask if they grinder, if not, a blender. If they don't even have a blender, there isn't much point in giving them whole beans. Some who did have blade grinders, have now upgraded to burr grinders. It's a slow process, but more are converted every couple of months. I have converted our former coffee cart owner who now works in our optical dept to roasting her own beans. She just got an actual roaster! Take care, Ann -- Sweet Maria's list searchable archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/index.htm
I too think getting the person you give the coffee to an adequate grinder is a vital part of introduction to good coffee. To date I have given six Zass box type grinders to friends and relatives to go with the home roast. I have quit doing this because they then keep pestering me for more of the coffee, they even offer to pay for it but I don't want to get into the coffee business. I have more than enough to do already. By the way, I kept a knee type Zass for myself because it grinds more evenly than the box types. I think it is because the bottom of the rotating shaft is fixed on the knee type. Pecan Jim On Jan 27, 2007, at 1:54 AM, L. Michael Fraley, MD wrote: <Snip>