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1) From: Robert D. Crawford
Hi all,
I am in search of the ultimate travel mug.  I have probably six or seven
in the cabinet that I do not like for one reason or another.  As I have
gotten them I have found a flaw that I would prefer to live without, as
you will see by my criteria below:
1.  It needs to be stainless on the inside as well as out.  Plastic
tends, in my experience, to hold smells.
2.  It needs to be a decent size.  Since this will be an insulated mug,
I would expect to be able to drink coffee for a little while.  
3.  It absolutely _must_, with no exceptions, not leak around the lid.
I really don't care whether it is a screw-on or press-on lid, just so
long as it does not leak.  Nothing irks me more than to have coffee drip
down the front of my shirt.  Not that I am terribly concerned about what
other people think about me, but I prefer to not look like a slob.
4.  Dishwasher safe is a plus, but I am not above washing dishes by
hand. 
If there are other criteria you think I might have missed, feel free to
add them to the list.
If anyone knows of such a mug, and knows where I can obtain one, online
is preferable, _please_ let me know.  
Thanks for all your help and comments,
rdc
-- 
Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
Higher education helps your earning capacity.  Ask any college professor.

2) From: Sandra Andina
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Bodum, Nissan or Starbuck's stainless steel combination French Press/ 
travel mug.
On Feb 5, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Robert D. Crawford wrote:
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Bodum, Nissan or Starbuck's =
stainless steel combination French Press/travel mug.
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5, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Robert D. Crawford wrote:
Hi all, I am in search of the ultimate = travel mug.  I have = probably six or sevenin the cabinet that I do = not like for one reason or another. = As I havegotten them I have found a flaw = that I would prefer to live without, asyou will = see by my criteria below: 1.  It needs to be stainless on = the inside as well as out.  = Plastictends, in my experience, to hold = smells. 2.  = It needs to be a decent size.  Since this will be an = insulated mug,I would expect to be able to = drink coffee for a little while.   3.  It absolutely _must_, with no = exceptions, not leak around the lid.I really = don't care whether it is a screw-on or press-on lid, just solong as it does not leak.  Nothing irks me more than to = have coffee dripdown the front of my shirt.  Not that I am terribly = concerned about whatother people think about = me, but I prefer to not look like a slob. 4.  Dishwasher safe is a plus, = but I am not above washing dishes byhand.  If there are = other criteria you think I might have missed, feel free toadd them to the list. If anyone = knows of such a mug, and knows where I can obtain one, onlineis preferable, _please_ let me know.   Thanks for = all your help and comments, rdc-- Robert = D. Crawford             =                         robdcraw Higher = education helps your earning capacity.  Ask any college = professor.homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

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3) From: Brett Mason
Try a company called Sweet Marias...http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.travelmugs-bottles.shtmlBrett
On 2/5/07, Robert D. Crawford  wrote:
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4) From: Aaron
Robert get the nissan mug sm's sells.
the lid screws on and you can literally bounce it down a concrete pier 
(don't ask) and it will be fine.  You can drop it 45 feet (again dont 
ask) and it will be fine, and it won't drip either, unless you are 
stupid (like me) and screw the damned thing on cross threaded, then it 
will pour all over the carpet in your car/
I have filled the thing with hot coffee at 6 am, thrown it into a 40 
degree conex box and come back at 3pm and the coffee is still hot to drink.
I recommend these mugs whole heartedly, SM's sells them and they are not 
that expensive either.
aaron

5) From: Rich M
I like the mugs with holes all along the edge of the top so you can  
drink from any angle. No need to look down while driving.
Rich M
On Feb 5, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Robert D. Crawford wrote:
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6) From: raymanowen
We drove to Red Lodge, Montana from Westminster (Denver) for my son's
wedding last August. We stopped at a new Peet's before we hit I-25. I bought
just such a mug as you desire, steamed hot and full of one of their blends I
sampled.
It absolutely stayed hot all the way through the Hell Hole between Colorado
and Montana- my daughter, Sarah saw to that. We only hit the high spots
through Wyoming. When we checked in to the Yodeler in Red Lodge, it was
fading. With only 2- 3oz left, the heat and flavor were minimal.
But it made it all the way to Montana. We traded off in Billings, and I
could imagine her heel making a dent in the back floor when I'd point out
the abandoned railroad paralleling our route. I dig stuff like that you
can't see from 35,000 feet at 450- 500KIAS.
The $26 mug might have had a carbon fiber top that screwed in and sealed
well. It all worked, along with the spring loaded sipping valve. Sure wish I
could remember where in Blazes I left it. Probably on one of my gigs to
Avaya, Drat!
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Help this hopes-

7) From: Darliene Stanhope
Sweet Maria's has some great travel mugs.  I bought one of the Nissan mugs,
liked it so much I purchased a second one.  I have filled it at 6:15 am and
at noon the coffee was still really hot.  The first time I showed someone it
was leak proof, I thought they were going to have a fit because I turned the
mug upside down over a nice area rug.  They had just watched me fill it with
coffee and put the cap on.
Darliene
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8) From: Kim Belli
Hi Robert - great question!  and one that's been on my mind lately...
I'd like to add something to your list...  Or just to # 4.  The mug should 
be easy to clean.  I like the Good Grips mug but all the small, 
unreachable parts are too hard to get clean... and over time it can lead 
to badness...
I look forward to the responses (and buying a new mug) - thanks for asking 
the question!
Kim.
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9) From: JanoMac
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From: "Robert D. Crawford" 
Reply-To: homeroast
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:48:09 -0600
To: homeroast
Subject: +travel mug?
If there are other criteria you think I might have missed, feel free to
add them to the list.
Yes! It MUST fit your cup holders!
I have purchased/received many travel mugs over the last several years and
only ONE of them fits any of the cup holders in any of my 3 vehicles...and
it only fits in one of the holders! I even have one vehicle with adjustable
holders and those still do not fit most travel mugs ­ doesn¹t open wide
enough for the big ones and holds the slender ones so far down that they ti=
p
over on cornering!
Kirk

10) From: Leo Zick
Im with you. I love my BFH mug.
I think they are sold as leak proof mugs, but I prefer to call it the BFH
mug

11) From: L. Michael Fraley, MD
Hi Robert,
I noticed that our hosts have several nice ones on their site.  One is 
advertised specifically as being leakproof.
Michael
On Feb 5, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Robert D. Crawford wrote:
Hi all,
I am in search of the ultimate travel mug.  I have probably six or seven
in the cabinet that I do not like for one reason or another.  As I have
gotten them I have found a flaw that I would prefer to live without, as
you will see by my criteria below:
1.  It needs to be stainless on the inside as well as out.  Plastic
tends, in my experience, to hold smells.
2.  It needs to be a decent size.  Since this will be an insulated mug,
I would expect to be able to drink coffee for a little while.
3.  It absolutely _must_, with no exceptions, not leak around the lid.
I really don't care whether it is a screw-on or press-on lid, just so
long as it does not leak.  Nothing irks me more than to have coffee drip
down the front of my shirt.  Not that I am terribly concerned about what
other people think about me, but I prefer to not look like a slob.
4.  Dishwasher safe is a plus, but I am not above washing dishes by
hand.
If there are other criteria you think I might have missed, feel free to
add them to the list.
If anyone knows of such a mug, and knows where I can obtain one, online
is preferable, _please_ let me know.
Thanks for all your help and comments,
rdc
-- 
Robert D. Crawford                                     
robdcraw
Higher education helps your earning capacity.  Ask any college 
professor.

12) From: Brian Kamnetz
I'm wondering about the stainless steel. A couple years ago there was a
discussion similar to this one, and there were complaints that stainless
steel added "brightness" to the coffee flavor.
Brian
On 2/5/07, Robert D. Crawford  wrote:
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13) From: Brian Kamnetz
I hasten to say that stainless steel is "very good", but the stipulation was
"the ultimate"....
Brian
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14) From: Floyd Lozano
i think stainless steel is pretty non-reactive (one of the reasons it
doesn't rust!) so i am not sure how it could make coffee any brighter than
porcelain or glass, two other non-reactive surfaces off which people tend to
eat and drink ;)  Maybe they thought they were using SS and were instead
using aluminum, which i could easily believe changed the flavor of the
coffee (since the acids in the coffee would strip aluminum off the
container).  i'm no chemist, but i married one!
-Floyd
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15) From: Demian Ebert
Aaron's got this one pegged. I own two Nissans tumblers and don't use any
other travel mugs (I've also got a pair of their thermoses). We moved in the
beginning of January and in the process did a purge of the travel mugs.
Filled with equally hot water with the Nissan as the benchmark we took
temperatures every 5 minutes. There was only one model that was comparable
to the nissan and even it didn't do quite as well. Now if I could only find
that sheet of paper, I'd give you the numbers...
Demian
On 2/5/07, Aaron  wrote:
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16) From: Robert D. Crawford
Thanks to all who replied.  See below for more comments...
"Brett Mason"  writes:
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They just have everything!  I have sent the order to my SO for a mug but
told her to hold it until tomorrow when I can choose a couple of pounds
of beans... no use in not ordering once instead of twice...
Aaron  writes:
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That is the one I have decided on.
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Reminds me of my Zippo.  I did heavy construction for a while about 13
years ago.  One day I was walking a concrete wall and dropped the
lighter 30+ feet on to more concrete.  I picked up the lighter and it
kept on lighting.  Then on another day I dropped it into wet concrete.
Took it apart, washed it, dried it in the sun and refilled it that
night.  I have been using the lighter since that time and finally had to
send it in this last year to have the hinge repaired.
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Once I saw them I knew I was ordering one from SM.  Having a little of
that stuff that killed the cat, I did comparison shop and found the
price to be lower at SM than the other places I saw.  Right on!
Rich M  writes:
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I haven't driven in several years so I just stick my fingers around the
lid to "see" where the hole is.  I figure I have to open the thing up
anyway... I do see your point, though.
JanoMac  writes:
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Since I am not the driver, I am not allowed to use the cupholder.
That's fine, it is shallow and I didn't want to use that old thing
anyway. 
Again, thanks for all the help,
rdc
-- 
Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
When a lot of remedies are suggested for a disease, that means it can't
be cured.
		-- Anton Chekhov, "The Cherry Orchard"

17) From: Scott Marquardt
On 2/5/07, Floyd Lozano  wrote:
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Believe it or not, it's true. Demonstrably. You can do a couple
triangle cuppings to prove it.
For a travel mug, I heartily recommend an open cup of any material
that fits your dash cup holder.
Might sound crazy, but whenever I use a mug that denies me a full wave
of aromatics, I realize I'm back in my pre-caring [about coffee] days.
It's become such a substantial part of what I expect in my coffee that
I just can't do with a closed cup.
Not for everyone, I know.
Hey, I have an idea! How about a Bodum Pavina!    ;-)

18) From: Walter R. Basil
I have found my perfect travel mug. Considering my "travel" is from  
my house to my work, an entire 1.6 miles, my needs aren't that  
specific. My morning drink has been a mocha every day for the last  
month or so. I was using a stainless steel vacuum type thermal mug  
with plastic lid w/gasket. Problem was, I would forget it at work. Or  
if I didn't, I would either leave it in the car or on the shelf  
without cleaning it. The next morning I would have to clean it while  
making my mocha.
Then I was at Costco and thought I would check out the cups like  
cafes would have. Dixie sells a nice set that is paper with like a  
styrofoam spray on it (although it says it's not... claims it's all  
paper for those who care). A pack of 500 lids was around $12, and a  
pack of 160 cups (16 oz) were around $11. Problem solved. I've got an  
attractive cup with a lid that seals enough to create a vacuum when I  
pull enough mocha out, and I just toss it out when I'm done.  
Considering I'll only use it on business days, $34 will last me over  
a year (one box of lids and two of the cups). The lids are cappuccino  
type lids you get at Starbucks.
I highly recommend these. Extremely sturdy, lid fits tight - won't  
just pop off, keeps drink warm long enough to drink it, and all  
without burning your hands.
The exact name is Dixie Perfect Touch 16 oz. Here's a link if you're  
able to get it all. You may have to copy and paste the entire link,  
or someone can put into one of those tiny urls:
The link is to the manufacturer, not a sales site - you can't buy it  
from them.
Walt
--
Walter R Basil
www.basilweb.net

19) From: Ed Needham
I am a total fanatic about stainless metalworking, but I really have a 
problem with the 'smell' of stainless when used as a drinking mug.  I like 
to smell coffee, not metal.  Some plastic travel mugs are OK, but they do 
hold a coffee odor that doesn't seem to want to come out.
My preferred travel mug is a ceramic one with a silicone rubber lid.  It 
doesn't keep the coffee that hot for hours and hours, but long enough to 
drink the coffee on my way to work.  I sometimes carry a small glass lined 
thermos if I need coffee to stay hot a long time.
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20) From: Ed Needham
http://www.gp.com/dixiefs/dixieproductdisplay.asp?CategoryId3&ProductId3&CId3&TitleS56CD&DescP%2CPT%2016OZ%20CO%201000
Here's a better link to what Walter posted.
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21) From: Aaron
If you are poking your fingers around to find where the hole is  (on 
your coffee cup silly!! )..
when you put the lid on, hold the glass like you would be when drinking 
it, then snap the lid on so the hole is in the right place.  That way 
you can just pick it up like you would a regular cup and know the hole 
is right where you want it, and go from there.
Aaron

22) From: Aaron
It was written:
For a travel mug, I heartily recommend an open cup of any material
that fits your dash cup holder.
========
I have to disagree on this one.  True the smell helps, but when you 
crack the cap on your cup you can still smell the coffee.  Also, the 
whole purpose of the sealable mug or capped mug for travelling is so 
that when you have to slam on the brakes suddenly because the oblivious 
idiot in front of you on the cell phone just cut you off, you don't end 
up spilling that fresh cup of perfect coffee all over the dashboard, or 
armrest, or your lap, or wheverever you currently have your cup.  If you 
are one of those who like a lot of sugar or other additives in your 
coffee, not only will it make a nasty sticky mess when it dries, if it 
gets into any buttons or switches, it is going to raise total hell 
eventually down there too.  Bumpy roads don't help either, as anyone who 
lives / lived in Illinois and has had the misfortunine of going down 294 
can attest to.
Ill keep mine capped up thank you.
Aaron

23) From: Aaron
Ed I like your idea about the ceramic sealable glass / cup ... any idea 
where to get one at, I don't recall any at SM's..  that would be great 
for the 'to work' drive and the sealable steel one when at work so I 
dont have to worry about it breaking.
The other day it was rather cold out and I was on the beach metal 
detecting with a big leather jacket on and my Nissan mug hanging out by 
the handle from one of the pockets.... Perfect companion, coffee at my 
beckon and didn't have to worry about it spilling when I had to bend 
over to pick something up I found and it kept hot the entire 3 hours I 
was out.
Aaron

24) From: Robert D. Crawford
Aaron  writes:
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This idea works great if you are using a mug with a snap-on lid, but
with screw-on lids... not so much.  This also assumes that you are using
a mug and not a tumbler, of which I have one... or two.  I can't
remember anymore.
rdc
-- 
Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
		-- Aldous Huxley

25) From: Larry Johnson
A couple of years ago (pre-roasting days) I was in Miami for a job that
lasted a couple of months. While there, I found a 16 oz. SS travel mug at
Publix that had a handy feature: The lid was threaded in such a way that,
according to where the mouth-hole was when you started screwing it down, it
(the mouth-hole) would wind up in exactly the right place for either a
right-handed or left-handed drinker. I don't know if I'm describing this
well, but no matter what you did (other than cross-threading it) the hole
would be 90 degrees from the handle every time. From one starting point, it
would be in the position for a right-hander. From the other starting point,
it would be left-handed. It didn't take but a couple of tries to see how to
get it right every time.
The mug has a handle, a sliding cover for the drinking-hole, and is almost
(not perfectly) spill-proof. I'm at work, drinking Kona from it as I type
this.
Larry J (Lilboybrew)
-- 
"I hear, and I forget.  I see, and I remember.  I do, and I
understand."    -- Confucius
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26) From: Marc
Robert,
I'm using the *"Nissan Leak-Proof BackPack Bottle"* from SM and have been
very happy with it, a little harder to clean but otherwise works very well.
A mug I've used in the past is the "Avantro One Mug 4.0". It seals very
well, fits car cup holders, easy to drink from, and easy to clean.
-Marc
On 2/5/07, Robert D. Crawford  wrote:
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27) From: raymanowen
"...only ONE of them fits any of the cup holders in any of my 3
vehicles...and
it only fits in one of the holders! I even have one vehicle with adjustable
holders and those still do not fit most travel mugs – doesn't open wide
enough for the big ones and holds the slender ones so far down that they ti=
p
over on cornering!"
Well- there you have it, Robert. The problem is Not the travel mugs. You
have chosen your vehicles based on a certain erroneous requirement. Detroit=
,
et al. could care less about accommodating coffee cups. Plus, keep all four
on the ground when you corner and you won't overtax the Detroit suspensions=
.
If you're used to a four wheel drift in the turns, Detroit is the wrong
answer.
On your next vehicle acquisition mission, take with you a Go/ No go Gauge,
about the size and shape of your favorite travel mug.
You can modifile your current cup holders. Just chuck up a rotary rasp in
your drill and make the holder fit your favorite mug.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Illegitimus non Carborundum-

28) From: Brian Kamnetz
Speaking of car builders and cup holders, I can't remember where, but a
number of years ago I somewhere saw a fairly extensive story on this topic.
According to the story, car designers HATE the whole cupholder issue becaus=
e
it is so difficult to fit the cupholders into the cabin, and also, so
difficult to design cupholders with the strength and flexibility to do
everything various people want cupholders to do.
Brian
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29) From: Ed Needham
The one I have is not sealable.  It has a permanent little pour hole in on 
the edge of the silicone rubbery top.  It keeps coffee from sloshing out but 
doesn't close.  It also has a non-skid piece on the bottom and it is narrow 
enough in diameter that it fits in my cupholder.  That's about half the 
reason I like it.
I have no idea where I got it.
*********************
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30) From: Robert D. Crawford
"Brian Kamnetz"  writes:
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Hold cups?
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
BOFH excuse #134:
because of network lag due to too many people playing deathmatch

31) From: Brian Kamnetz
On 2/6/07, Robert D. Crawford  wrote:
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I agree, sounds simple enough on the surface, but the follwoing response,
previously posted in this thread, illustrates the complexity of putting thi=
s
"simple" idea into practice:
Yes! It MUST fit your cup holders!
I have purchased/received many travel mugs over the last several years and
only ONE of them fits any of the cup holders in any of my 3 vehicles...and
it only fits in one of the holders! I even have one vehicle with adjustable
holders and those still do not fit most travel mugs – doesn't open wide
enough for the big ones and holds the slender ones so far down that they ti=
p
over on cornering!
Kirk

32) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
I can understand their concern about the cup holder. They are still
attempting to get a handle on the engine and assorted attachments (fuel
pumps, transmissions/transaxles, brakes etc. One more variable in the
program. Sort of like us narrowing down the sweet spot for Costa Rican or
Harar...
But since the thread is about coffee mugs, here is my solution to date....M=
y
Air Force son buys my travel mugs when he sees something he thinks will hol=
d
coffee, release tastes (when washed) and keep coffee out of his vehicle whe=
n
he comes to visit. And since he travels all over the world, he has a fair
lot to select from.
But most of his selections have been SS so far.
TerryT
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33) From: derbyrm
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
My Toyota Camry has two fine holders for cups.  When they're bigger than =
the cup being used, I just stuff in some paper napkins.
Metal has taste!  The easy way to  tell brass from bronze is to sniff.  =
I don't like adding any metallic taste to my drink.
Plastic is an undefined term.  Glass is a plastic.  Foam is a plastic.  =
Some plastics do not hold bad flavors and others smell like vomit.  (OK, =
I'm thinking of 1950 stuff now.)
Roger
derbyrm http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm

34) From: Sandra Andina
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How about a safety sheath (stainless, neoprene, even straw) for it?  
I'd take mine on the road if I could get one! (Anyone wanna crochet a  
Pavina-cozy?)
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How about a safety sheath =
(stainless, neoprene, even straw) for it? I'd take mine on the road if I =
could get one! (Anyone wanna crochet a Pavina-cozy?)
On Feb =
5, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Scott Marquardt wrote:
Hey, I have an idea! How about a Bodum Pavina!    ;-) = Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

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35) From: Sandra Andina
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Tar-zhay makes an 8-pack with lids. Not very ecological or coast- 
effective, but solves having to go out to the (detached) garage to  
scoop up  a dozen travel mugs (often with grossly moldy remnants of  
unfinished  Joe) from my husband's car.
On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:08 PM, Walter R. Basil wrote:
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Sandra Andina
www.sandyandina.com
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Tar-zhay makes an 8-pack with =
lids. Not very ecological or coast-effective, but solves having to go =
out to the (detached) garage to scoop up  a dozen travel mugs (often =
with grossly moldy remnants of unfinished  Joe) from my husband's =
car.
On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:08 PM, Walter R. Basil =
wrote:

Then I = was at Costco and thought I would check out the cups like cafes would = have. Dixie sells a nice set that is paper with like a styrofoam spray = on it (although it says it's not... claims it's all paper for those who = care)

Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

= = --Apple-Mail-68--785216737--

36) From: Tim TenClay
I don't know what a pavina is...but cozies are REALLY easy to knit/etc.  As
a matter of fact, there's a pattern for cup cozies (like the paper ones you
get at coffee shops) and bottle/can cozies (which would probably be a better
fit) in the book Knitting with Balls: A hands-on guide to knitting for the
Modern Man.... check it out :-)
Grace and Peace,
  `tim
On 2/6/07, Sandra Andina  wrote:
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37) From: Sandra Andina
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Ford 500s/Mercury Montegos have cupholders built into the side-door  
map pockets as well as the center consoles.
On Feb 6, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Brian Kamnetz wrote:
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Sandra Andina
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Ford 500s/Mercury Montegos have =
cupholders built into the side-door map pockets as well as the center =
consoles.
On Feb 6, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Brian Kamnetz =
wrote:
Speaking of car builders and cup holders, I can't remember = where, but a number of years ago I somewhere saw a fairly extensive = story on this topic. According to the story, car designers HATE the = whole cupholder issue because it is so difficult to fit the cupholders = into the cabin, and also, so difficult to design cupholders with the = strength and flexibility to do everything various people want cupholders = to do. Brian On 2/6/07, = raymanowen <raymanowen > = wrote:"... only ONE of them fits any of the cup holders = in any of my 3 vehicles...and it only fits in one = of the holders! I even have one vehicle with adjustable holders and = those still do not fit most travel mugs – doesn't open wide enough for = the big ones and holds the slender ones so far down that they tip over = on cornering!"
Well- there you have it, Robert. The problem is Not = the travel mugs. You have chosen your vehicles based on a certain = erroneous requirement. Detroit, et al. could care less about = accommodating coffee cups. Plus, keep all four on the ground when you = corner and you won't overtax the Detroit suspensions. If you're = used to a four wheel drift in the turns, Detroit is the wrong = answer. On your next vehicle acquisition mission, take with you a = Go/ No go Gauge, about the size and shape of your favorite travel mug. = You can modifile your current cup holders. Just chuck up a = rotary rasp in your drill and make the holder fit your favorite = mug. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! Illegitimus non = Carborundum- = Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

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38) From: Laura Micucci
Pontiacs (1996 & 2000) burry theirs under the dash board so that you cannot
use them.  :o(
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Laura Micucci
www.freshroastedforyou.com

39) From: Lynne Biziewski
And used '97 Buick Park Ave's have the kind that eventually break off (like
everything else in the interior... not to mention other little things like
the engine, etc.)
Lynne
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40) From: Aaron
Well my computer has a 32X cup holder that comes out to hold my large 
coffee mug at the push of a button so PPpppPPp   :)

41) From: Robert D. Crawford
"Brian Kamnetz"  writes:
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I wouldn't buy a pair of shoes without knowing they would fit.  Although
gifts may be another story, if I was given a gift that didn't fit, no
matter the product, I would not hesitate about returning it.
But I do see your point.
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
I'm free -- and freedom tastes of reality.
		-- The Who

42) From: Robert D. Crawford
"derbyrm"  writes:
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The cupholder in our Pontiac Sunfire has a rubber insert, presumably so
that you can take it out to clean it, but it seems to work well for
those cups that might be a little large.  On the rare occasion that I do
get to use it, I find that it is a little shallow, though.
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I have never been able to tell the difference between drinks that have
been stored in a thermos and those that have not.  I have started using
a SS thermos when I make coffee so that it does not sit on the warmer
and get burnt.  It also saves a lot of electricity not keeping that
thing on for 4.5-6hr per day.
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1.|Often, plastics. any of a group of synthetic or natural organic
materials that may be shaped when soft and then hardened, including many
types of resins, resinoids, polymers, cellulose derivatives, casein
materials, and proteins: used in place of other materials, as glass,
wood, and metals, in construction and decoration, for making many
articles, as coatings, and, drawn into filaments, for weaving. They are
often known by trademark names, as Bakelite, Vinylite, or Lucite.
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
Q:	What's the difference betweeen USL and the Graf Zeppelin?
A:	The Graf Zeppelin represented cutting edge technology for its time.

43) From: Leo Zick
This is a multipart message in MIME format.
Errr.. mans knitting?!  And.. another email from another man on this list
describing a male co-worker as a 30 year old single?!
Whats going on in the coffee world!?
From: Tim TenClay [mailto:teejtc] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:05 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +travel mug?
I don't know what a pavina is...but cozies are REALLY easy to knit/etc.  As
a matter of fact, there's a pattern for cup cozies (like the paper ones you
get at coffee shops) and bottle/can cozies (which would probably be a better
fit) in the book Knitting with Balls: A hands-on guide to knitting for the
Modern Man.... check it out :-) 
Grace and Peace,
  `tim
On 2/6/07, Sandra Andina  wrote:
How about a safety sheath (stainless, neoprene, even straw) for it? I'd take
mine on the road if I could get one! (Anyone wanna crochet a Pavina-cozy?)
On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Scott Marquardt wrote: 
Hey, I have an idea! How about a Bodum Pavina!    ;-)
Sandra Andina
www.sandyandina.com
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44) From: Walter R. Basil
On Feb 6, 2007, at 4:37 PM, "Laura Micucci"  wrote:
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My 02 Firebird has one of those that are under the dash and folds  
out, but I also have one in my middle console, one in the passenger  
door, and two at the rear of my middle console (for the poor folks  
trapped in my rear buckets). Those two get used as air freshener  
holders - California Scents - that fit perfectly.
Walt
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Walter R Basil
www.basilweb.net

45) From: Howell Ite
I only use travel mugs with stainless steel interiors.  But why do they make them with plastic lids?  The ultimate would be an ALL stainless steel mug including the lid and handle.
   
  Paul
"Robert D. Crawford"  wrote:
  Hi all,
I am in search of the ultimate travel mug. I have probably six or seven
in the cabinet that I do not like for one reason or another. As I have
gotten them I have found a flaw that I would prefer to live without, as
you will see by my criteria below:
1. It needs to be stainless on the inside as well as out. Plastic
tends, in my experience, to hold smells.
2. It needs to be a decent size. Since this will be an insulated mug,
I would expect to be able to drink coffee for a little while. 
3. It absolutely _must_, with no exceptions, not leak around the lid.
I really don't care whether it is a screw-on or press-on lid, just so
long as it does not leak. Nothing irks me more than to have coffee drip
down the front of my shirt. Not that I am terribly concerned about what
other people think about me, but I prefer to not look like a slob.
4. Dishwasher safe is a plus, but I am not above washing dishes by
hand. 
If there are other criteria you think I might have missed, feel free to
add them to the list.
If anyone knows of such a mug, and knows where I can obtain one, online
is preferable, _please_ let me know. 
Thanks for all your help and comments,
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford robdcraw
Higher education helps your earning capacity. Ask any college professor.

46) From: Lynne Biziewski
Ugh - probably because people like me would HATE the feel of stainless on my
hands & lips - and have a better chance of burning the lips!
Lynne
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47) From: Kris McN
I'm with you, Paul!  I hate having a plastic lid on my otherwise stainless
travel mug!
Kris McN

48) From: Tim Smith
I don't think I could deal with an all-stainless mug.  I've tried using my
stainless mugs at work without the lid and I burn myself every time.  You
need something less conductive.  Some kind of ceramic might work.  If they
can make something for the Shuttle that withstands the heat of re-entry then
there ought to be something that easily resists 160F coffee.
Tim


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