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Topic: Co-worker advice (12 msgs / 265 lines)
1) From: Michael Rasmussen
Walking up to the cafeteria this morning a co-worker, early 30s, single, asked
what kind of coffee maker I have.  "Which one do you want to know about?" was the
start of my reply before I quickly described the French Press, moka pots, and
filter cones.
"Why?" I asked and the end of the description.  He replied, "I bought a new coffee
maker, a Cuisinart."  My reaction was swift "Return it!"
While picking up our morning goodies I explained how the using the Cuisinart would
"piss away the money you spend for good coffee."  I pointed out how for under $5 a
cone and filter would provide him with better coffee that was easier to clean up
after. If he wanted some automatic kind of machine he should get a Technivorm.
Later on we had an instant messaging exchange:
Michael R	Wrong price I told you but: http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.frenchpress.shtmlfor under $5 and the easiest to clean and use:http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.shtml#filterconesclosest thing possible to espresso at home without spending several thousand dollars">http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.technivorm.shtmlMichael R	My recommended set of coffee brewing supplies:http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.frenchpress.shtmlfor under $5 and the easiest to clean and use:http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.shtml#filterconesclosest thing possible to espresso at home without spending several thousand dollars
Michael Rhttp://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.mokapot.shtmlMichael R
Again, all this is for flavorful coffee.   OTOH - the filter and cone is easier to
use and clean than the Cuisinart.  With a grinder it's 1/4 the cost.
Steve	what abouthttp://www.amazon.com/Presto-Scandinavian-Design-Coffee-Maker/dp/B00066XRNUMichael R	If Sweet Marias doesn't recommend it neither do I.  Bear in mind, if it
weren't for Jennifer I would be making coffee with:
French Press - sometimes a pain to clean so when feeling lazy, or just want a
quick cup
Cone and Filter - reliable, easy to clean up, the ceramic ones look great, and for
a full, rich flavorful cup of coffee
MokaPot/Stovetop Espresso - just for the joy of cofee
Looking across the cube space I can see him browsing the Sweet Maria's web space.
The pointed advice is not falling on deaf ears.
Anyone have any further suggestions for lobbying and education?
Side note:  Jennifer, my sweetie wife, likes to drink French Roast brewed in a
Chemex.  I'm not a fan of either French Roast or Chemex brewers.
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   Michael Rasmussen, Portland, Ore, USA
  Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity
       http://www.patch.com/words/

2) From: Brett Mason
Grind with a Zass, dump the grounds in your 1-cup, and leave the Zass
drawer out to "aerate the ofice"
Press a single cup, and make loud noises like "mmmmm" and
"oooooohhhhh" while your feet are propped up.  (think of the audio
from movie "When Harry met Sally")
Just came to help!
Brett
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

3) From: Brian Kamnetz
Michael,
I may have missed it, but I didn't see anything in your advice to your
coworker about starting with high-quality coffee. I'm thinking that, since
you can't end up with something that is better than what you started with,
popper, HG/DB, etc. may be a good place for your colleague to begin....
Brian
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4) From: Michael Rasmussen
Brian Kamnetz wrote:
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Brian, spot on advice.  However I was confining myself to the problem at hand -
preserving the quality of the coffee he purchases.
We live in Portland.  When we meet to bike commute together we meet at a Stumptown.
If we have a beer after work one of the choices is the Stumptown downtown that
serves Belgian beers.
Getting quality beans fresh isn't a problem here.
-- 
   Michael Rasmussen, Portland, Ore, USA
  Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity
       http://www.patch.com/words/

5) From: Elliott Perkins
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Belgian beers in Portland, Oregon?  That's coals to Newcastle.
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6) From: Brian Kamnetz
I sure wish I could move to Portland!
Brian
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7) From: Vicki Smith
Why? My understanding (from this list, among other places) is that some 
of the Cuisinarts now have decent/good brew temperature, and although 
home roasters sometimes have bloom problems with them (which can happen 
with most drip machines if you don't wet the grounds a bit before 
brewing) they are entirely serviceable for folks who are not, urmmm, 
coffee obsessed.
vicki
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8) From: Michael Rasmussen
Vicki Smith wrote:
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I hadn't read that.   You're better informed than I am.
-- 
   Michael Rasmussen, Portland, Ore, USA
  Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity
       http://www.patch.com/words/

9) From: Patrick S. Harper
I have one that I am selling to a friend that works pretty good, I was just
looking to move up and got the chance to at a very good price.  It makes
good hot coffee but I have not checked what the tempture of it is with a
thermomater, I will do that on the next batch I brew.

10) From: Vicki Smith
I know some models are, reportedly, better than others. You might want 
to look at the Coffee Geek site as some of the reviews deal specifically 
with brew temp.
We're so used to the idea that if we want the right brew temp, good 
machines are few and far between. And although only Technivorm and Newco 
are SCAA certified, I think the field of brewers that at the very least, 
are getting the temperature right, has gotten somewhat larger. Capresso 
is making some new "hot" machines, too, I know.
There are other issues--shower head kind of water dispersal, general 
sturdiness, capacity, appearance--but the brew temp doesn't appear to be 
the rarity it used to be.
vicki
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11) From: Patrick S. Harper
Temp in the caraf right after brewing is 160 degrees from a cuisenart grind
a brew.  I am not sure what that would make it when it hit the grinds, not
too I guess.

12) From: Vicki Smith
If I am remembering correctly, in our earlier conversation about this, 
the general consensus was that the models with the grinder built in 
were, indeed, suckful. You were pretty pleased with the coffee from it, 
at one time, and that's really all that counts.
v
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