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Topic: aluminum vs. stainless for moka pot? (7 msgs / 210 lines)
1) From: JanoMac
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Sandra Andina writes: ³The link between Alzheimer's and aluminum pots is
still a theory...²
1. It never was a theory in medical science. (Theory is a very strong word,
indeed, in science and medicine) It an observation that briefly became an
hypothesis offered for a suggested link between the presence of neural
plaques (post-mortem Alzheimer evidence found during autopsy) and an
associated increased presence of in Aluminum in the body.
2. That hypothesis QUICKLY died in the scientific literature when it was
found in subsequent studies that:
         a. the original findings were flawed ­ that Aluminum was NOT
elevated in the original subjects. It was found that nearly EVERYONE had
            this level since Aluminum is the most prevalent naturally
occurring metal in the soil after iron, and is more likely to be found in
soils 
            in many regions than iron. It is simply everywhere and we all
consume it in our food and water.
        b. when researchers added excess Aluminum to Alzheimer animals (mic=
e
& rats that have been bred or genetically modified to exhibit
            Alzheimers in their life-time) in studies, no extra plaques wer=
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found in the animal brains, nor were  new plaques formed  or Alzheimner
            stimulated in previously healthy (unmodified, normal mice &
rats) animals.
     
The Aluminum/Alzheimer link lives on  now only on Alternative health sites
(some even written by people with MD after their names who should know
better or read the literature!), on publications that have not cited (or
likely to have read read) the actual literature, on  support and discussion
groups sites for various conditions and diseases that are moderated by
members (I am seeing it in the MS, Alzheimers, Autism & ADD/ADHD groups) an=
d
in ads or on sites by folks selling alternatives to Aluminum for cooking,
etc.
My Biology kids at school even researched this one on the web for a short
project and were able to find the ³real² story with little trouble and even
less effort (less effort is a big thing with high school students these
days! ).
...makes you wonder where the anti-Aluminum folks are getting their data?
Kirk (Resident Biologist & Myth-Buster)

2) From: Sandra Andina
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Thanks, Kirk, for putting it more straightforwardly than I had the  
guts to.
On Feb 11, 2007, at 6:55 PM, JanoMac wrote:
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Sandra Andina
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Thanks, Kirk, for putting it =
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2007, at 6:55 PM, JanoMac wrote:
= Sandra Andina writes: “The link between Alzheimer's and aluminum pots = is still a theory...” 1. It never was a theory in medical = science. (Theory is a very strong word, indeed, in science and medicine) = It an observation that briefly became an hypothesis offered for a = suggested link between the presence of neural plaques (post-mortem = Alzheimer evidence found during autopsy) and an associated increased = presence of in Aluminum in the body. 2. That hypothesis QUICKLY = died in the scientific literature when it was found in subsequent = studies that:          a. the original findings = were flawed – that Aluminum was NOT elevated in the original subjects. = It was found that nearly EVERYONE had            =  this level since Aluminum is the most prevalent naturally occurring = metal in the soil after iron, and is more likely to be found in soils =             in many regions than iron. It = is simply everywhere and we all consume it in our food and water. =         b. when researchers added excess Aluminum to = Alzheimer animals (mice & rats that have been bred or genetically = modified to exhibit             Alzheimers = in their life-time) in studies, no extra plaques were found in the = animal brains, nor were  new plaques formed  or Alzheimner =             stimulated in previously healthy = (unmodified, normal mice & rats) animals.       = The Aluminum/Alzheimer link lives on  now only on Alternative health = sites (some even written by people with MD after their names who should = know better or read the literature!), on publications that have not = cited (or likely to have read read) the actual literature, on  support = and discussion groups sites for various conditions and diseases that are = moderated by members (I am seeing it in the MS, Alzheimers, Autism & = ADD/ADHD groups) and in ads or on sites by folks selling alternatives to = Aluminum for cooking, etc. My Biology kids at school even = researched this one on the web for a short project and were able to find = the “real” story with little trouble and even less effort (less = effort is a big thing with high school students these days! = <grin>). ...makes you wonder where the anti-Aluminum = folks are getting their data? Kirk (Resident Biologist & = Myth-Buster) Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

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3) From: Larry Johnson
Yes; thanks Kirk. I had researched this subject back when I was in the
market for a kettle in which to boil my homebrewed beer. There's a big leap
in price for 10 gallon stockpots when you choose SS over AL. Plus, SS is
lousy for a cooking vessel compared to AL (heavier, not as good a conductor
of heat, hot spots, etc.). Ergo, I dug deep in researching this to
justify spending "more for less" as I saw it and found pretty much what you
described. I just couldn't remember the details you cited, but I remember
them now that you have reminded me.
BTW, the 20+ beers I made with that kettle were, for the most part,
extremely tasty. Not one had any hint of metallic flavor and I never saw an=
y
signs of any pitting or corrosion in the kettle. Only time will tell on the
Alzheimer's.
-- 
Larry J (Lilboybrew)
"The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it."
  - Flannery O'Connor
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4) From: Justin Marquez
On 2/11/07, Larry Johnson  wrote:
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See now.... there's the proof of the "link".
[heheheheh]
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)

5) From: Larry Johnson
There's always one in every crowd.......
On 2/12/07, Justin Marquez  wrote:
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Larry J (Lilboybrew)
"The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it."
  - Flannery O'Connor

6) From: Michael Mccandless
A great thing about getting old & forgetful . . .
NO MORE RERUNS.
McSparky
On 2/12/07, Larry Johnson  wrote:
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7) From: Brett Mason
I just saw Mary Poppins - what a great new movie!
On 2/12/07, Michael Mccandless  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com


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