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Topic: is walgreens or mr. coffee 10-cup a rebadged presto scandinavian? (8 msgs / 170 lines)
1) From: stereoplegic
last time i was @ walgreens i noticed a 10-cup coffeemaker that looked a 
lot like a scandi (or @ least like the tiny pics i've seen online). saw 
another one (mr. coffee) at target that looked about the same. couldn't 
find a wattage rating nor any mention of a 3rd heating element on 
either. does anyone know if these could be rebadged scandi's?

2) From: Edward Bourgeois
Interesting, looked on mr. coffee site and couldn't find anything. Did you
get a model # ?

3) From: Brett Mason
I couldn't find it on the Walgreens site either.  They do have a quality
espresso machine for only $19.99 - and I would expect it is worth every
On 2/15/07, Edward Bourgeois  wrote:

4) From: Patrick S. Harper
I dug out an espresso maker I was given as a wedding gift 4 years ago that
never made it out of the box and gave it a shot.  Did OK but then I am not
sure what I am looking at.  It is just a $100 krupps job in the hands of a
guy that does not know what the heck he is doing with it but I made a pretty
good milk drink with the contents of the 4 shot pot of espresso and some
frothed milk.

5) From: Floyd Lozano
Well with a good grinder and good beans it's possible to get good coffee out
of a machine that doesn't have 2 boilers and multiple heat elements with
rotary pumps and 3 way solenoids and etc and etc.  Will you get espresso?
Technically, no, as the definition is 'forcing hot water through a cake of
ground coffee at high pressure' and those cheapo machines use steam (but
hey, maybe its' hot water by the time it hits the grounds, what with no
temperature control!).  At any rate, matter of personal taste.  No expense
on the machine side will make up for crappy bean, and you can wreck good
bean with a bad grinder!  My preference is for drip coffee anyway!
On 2/15/07, Patrick S. Harper  wrote:

6) From: Gary Townsend
On 2/15/07, Patrick S. Harper wrote:
What model Krupps is it?
For reference, I had found around a 1/2 doz steam toys before moving up to a
Gaggia Espresso model, which led to a Livia 90S. I recently picked up a
slightly used Krupps Type 698 for $20. at a yard sale, just to keep in my
shop for an occasional Americano-like coffee. Nothing spectacular about the
'espresso' like substance that I get out of it, but as good as or better
than 95% of the shots I've sampled at various coffee shops over the last few
years. I cheated and used my lil' Rocky grinder, of course, but almost
everyone will agree that the grinder is the most important item, for making
a good espresso based drink. So buy a great grinder, and experiment with
that little Krupps machine anyway. When the espresso bug bites you, you will
only need to buy the espresso machine. Win/win either way, in my book, at
least, because you will learn a few things along the way that will become
very helpful as you navigate down the path.
Back to the original topic:
The Presto Cheapo Scando makers are also in sears stores, as kmart bought
them out, i still cringe when I see craftsman tools in the aisle. I picked
one up and gotta say that i'm not all that impressed with it, it leaks,
drips and feels like it's going to break anyday now. I think that I bought
it, just to use as an excuse to get a Technovorm via SweetMaria's when my
income tax refund arrives ;-), ( It worked on my spouse before, when the
el-cheapo burr grinder spewed grinds all over the kitchen counter, and
that's how the funding got approved for my lil Rocky)

7) From: Ed Needham
My Gaggia Espresso is mothballed in my basement but with a good grinder I 
can make espresso as good as you'll get anywhere with it.
My La Pavoni single group #PUBS machine will never let me down, and cranks 
out great shot after great shot, but the Gaggia will match it in quality 
with some degree of tweaking.
The steam toys with no pump, but only steam pressure will have a hard time 
making anything resembling good espresso.
Ed Needham®
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com(include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters)

8) From: Cameron Forde
I have to agree with Ed.  With a fair bit of work (assuming you know
your machine well enough) one can get decent espresso from inexpensive
pump machines.  I upgraded from an Estro Profi to a La Spaziale S1
Vivaldi and the main difference in the espresso is how much easier it
is to get a good shot from the S1.  I hardly have to think about it.
With the Profi it was a process that required my full attention.  Of
course, microfoam is also effortless with the S1 and nearly impossible
with the Profi.  The same can't be said about a cheap grinder.  No
amount of work on your part will make up for dull or misaligned burrs.
On 2/15/07, Ed Needham  wrote:
-- ceforde

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