Here are my results testing the Gene and HG methods On 2/16, 6ozs of Misty Valley. Gene set to 482 for 20 min. First crack at 13.5 min. 465 temp. Turned the temp down to keep it at 465 till 1st ended and finished the roast at 16 min. Cooled 2 min in the Gene and then stopped and cooled by hand with a fan. 6 ozs of Misty Valley HGDB. This was kinda hard to time with a wrist watch and both hands busy. So I tried to keep the roast about the same amount of time as the Gene. Started out on low power for 5 min about 2 to 3 inches from the beans. I used a stainless mixing bowl from an old mixer. Then turned the gun to high about 1 1/2 inches from the beans until 1st crack 10 min later or 16 min into roast. Moved HG up to 3 inch or more to finish and even up the roast and stopped at 18 min and hand cooled on top of a fan. I am not a super taster and don't get strawberry's and such from my coffee. I do notice a fruity or something taste though. 2/19 I brewed with the Technivorm Swiss Gold filter full pot. Gene batch was good but I did notice some bitterness and not as fruity. HGDB was better, a little more fruity and no bitterness. Hubby had a cup from the Gene batch and I had a cup from the HGDB. We use the same cups and had them sitting on the end table while watching television. Both cups had cooled quite a bit. He took a drink out of mine by mistake and then said, "did you put some bourbon in your coffee". We both sampled each others cold coffee and mine sure did have a smoother bourbon flavor. I will brew up some more tomorrow and see if 5 days rest makes a difference. Susan ************************************** Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more.