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Topic: Coffee and blood type (35 msgs / 1654 lines)
1) From: Ken Mary
I have spent plenty of time on the internet investigating heart healthy 
diets and supplements. BTW I am fully recovered from my heart attack and
open heart surgery in December, and am off all medications except an 81mg
enteric coated aspirin daily. An echocardiogram March 5 showed minimal
damage to the heart.
About two months ago I began a mostly raw fruit and vegetable diet with no
meat except fish. I am also adopting the "Eat Right for Your Type" diet from
Dr. Peter D'Adamo. His book presents the case for choosing which foods to
eat and which to avoid based on the four major blood types, O, A, B, and AB.
My type is A+ and very unfortunately, my favorite foods are on the avoid
list.
There is also a list of beverages. Great news here at least for type A,
including myself, coffee is identified as highly beneficial. The same for
the rare type AB which combines the attributes of types A and B. However for
type B, coffee is neutral, meaning there is no benefit but also no harm. For
type O there is bad news. Coffee, either regular or decaf, increases stomach
acid excessively. Type Os are adapted by their genetic inheritance to meat
eating, and therefore already have plenty of stomach acid for digestion. The
book recommends that type O totally eliminate coffee from their diet.
I make no claims or recommendations. Read the book and choose for yourself.
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2) From: Eddie Dove
Ken,
I have read that book and found in intriguing.  No way I'm gonna eliminate
coffee though!
Thanks for the insight and glad to hear all is well.
Eddie
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3) From: Dave
Glad you're recovered.
On 3/6/07, Ken Mary  wrote:
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There is also a list of beverages. Great news here at least for type A,
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If I were an "O", I'd be looking for another book;-)
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Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps

4) From: Kevin
Woo Hoo!  I'm AB+ and a coffee-aholic!  That's good news for me!
On 3/6/07, Ken Mary  wrote:
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5) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
After my dad had his heart attack a few years back, we tried to keep him
supplied with venison as his meat for his 'meat and potato' diet. According
to his surgeon venison is not classified as 'red meat' with regard to
cholesterol. He was happy.
TerryT
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6) From: Sandra Andina
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I also purchased the book awhile back--I too am an A+.  D'Adamo has  
run into hot water several times with a few medical boards and gov't  
agencies.  Regardless of your blood type, as long as you keep your  
carbs low-glycemic (i.e., the *right* raw fruits and veggies), get  
enough fiber and the other nutrients (especially poly and  
monounsaturated fatty acids, minerals, calcium, B vitamins such as  
B-12 which latter can be obtained only from red meat or supplements),  
and ingest and burn the correct number of calories for your weight  
goals (loss/gain/maintenance) and are not allergic to fish, the only  
ill effects of a diet such as yours would be inconvienience and/or  
boredom (and perhaps a shrinking wallet from the cost of really yummy  
fresh fish). If you enjoy it, lucky you--stick with it!
Healthful eating is healthful eating, as long as you get what you  
need and avoid what NOBODY ought to be eating.
Good to know caffeine is fine for us--I'll drink to that.
My husband's an O+, and has had no gastric problems whatsoever from  
his 2-3 cups of regular coffee a day.
Congrats on your recovery--may it continue! I'd take the baby  
aspirin, but I'm already on ginkgo biloba for tinnitus so my cardio  
and ENT advise me that an aspirin would increase the risk of  
hemorrhage (and aggravate my tinnitus--were I not a musician the  
tinnitus would be tolerable). The ginkgo has anticoagulant effects.   
(I do carry a regular aspirin to chew in case I do exhibit signs of a  
heart attack or stroke).  BTW, if you are taking aspirin for its  
anticoagulant properties, beware of green tea--regular tea is fine.  
Green tea increases synthesis of Vitamin K, which promotes clotting  
(if you have a bleeding disorder, though, have all the green tea you  
want).
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Sandra Andina
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I also purchased the book awhile =
back--I too am an A+.  D'Adamo has run into hot water several times =
with a few medical boards and gov't agencies.  Regardless of your =
blood type, as long as you keep your carbs low-glycemic (i.e., the =
*right* raw fruits and veggies), get enough fiber and the other =
nutrients (especially poly and monounsaturated fatty acids, minerals, =
calcium, B vitamins such as B-12 which latter can be obtained only from =
red meat or supplements), and ingest and burn the correct number of =
calories for your weight goals (loss/gain/maintenance) and are not =
allergic to fish, the only ill effects of a diet such as yours would be =
inconvienience and/or boredom (and perhaps a shrinking wallet from the =
cost of really yummy fresh fish). If you enjoy it, lucky you--stick with =
it!Healthful eating is healthful eating, as long as you get what =
you need and avoid what NOBODY ought to be eating.Good to =
know caffeine is fine for us--I'll drink to that.
My husband's an O+, and has = had no gastric problems whatsoever from his 2-3 cups of regular coffee a = day.
Congrats = on your recovery--may it continue! I'd take the baby aspirin, but I'm = already on ginkgo biloba for tinnitus so my cardio and ENT advise me = that an aspirin would increase the risk of hemorrhage (and aggravate my = tinnitus--were I not a musician the tinnitus would be tolerable). The = ginkgo has anticoagulant effects.  (I do carry a regular aspirin to = chew in case I do exhibit signs of a heart attack or stroke).  BTW, if = you are taking aspirin for its anticoagulant properties, beware of green = tea--regular tea is fine. Green tea increases synthesis of Vitamin K, = which promotes clotting (if you have a bleeding disorder, though, have = all the green tea you want).  On Mar 6, 2007, at 10:45 = AM, Ken Mary wrote:
I have spent plenty of time on the internet = investigating heart healthy diets = and supplements. BTW I am fully recovered from my heart attack = andopen heart surgery in December, = and am off all medications except an 81mgenteric = coated aspirin daily. An echocardiogram March 5 showed minimaldamage to the heart. About two = months ago I began a mostly raw fruit and vegetable diet with = nomeat except fish. I am also adopting the "Eat = Right for Your Type" diet fromDr. Peter = D'Adamo.  Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

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7) From: Sandra Andina
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On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:20 PM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
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Neither are: ostrich, bison (trim the peripheral fat if any), duck  
breast (grilled and eaten sans skin), or rhea. All have less fat  
(espec. sat fat) and cholesterol than even chicken breast  and are  
redder than filet mignon !!!
All are considered deleterious to one's grocery budget, however.
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On Mar 6, 2007, at =
1:20 PM, TERRY TITSWORTH wrote:
 According to his surgeon = venison is not classified as 'red meat' with regard to = cholesterol Neither are: ostrich, = bison (trim the peripheral fat if any), duck breast (grilled and eaten = sans skin), or rhea. All have less fat (espec. sat fat) and cholesterol = than even chicken breast  and are redder than filet mignon = !!!
All are = considered deleterious to one's grocery budget, however. = Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

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8) From: Lynne Biziewski
Ken, I'm so glad you have recovered from your heart attack. Both sides of my
family have had heart trouble, so I need to be careful (both my mom & dad
passed away from heart failure, but my dad was much younger... I don't want
to follow in his footsteps there!!)
I'm allergic to aspirin, so I never could take that in any case. I did,
however, follow a completely raw diet for awhile last year, and felt
tremendous while doing it. That was before I started roasting my own coffee
- but even then, I allowed myself one or two cups a day. Also followed the
Blood Type Diet awhile ago - while I lost a LOT of weight (and still need
to), it was really boring for me.
But I need to make some changes - I just found out that my blood pressure is
STILL very high (no wonder, w/all the pressure I have been living under in
my life).
If anyone has any info on good, natural ways to bring down blood pressure,
please email me off the list.
I may have to rethink my caffeine intake, too...
Lynne
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9) From: Leo Zick
Does he tell why blood type determines diet?

10) From: Leo Zick
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what you describe isnt blood type specific.. does the author claim it to be?  
From: Sandra Andina [mailto:sandraandina] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:31 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Coffee and blood type
I also purchased the book awhile back--I too am an A+. D'Adamo has run into
hot water several times with a few medical boards and gov't agencies.
Regardless of your blood type, as long as you keep your carbs low-glycemic
(i.e., the *right* raw fruits and veggies), get enough fiber and the other
nutrients (especially poly and monounsaturated fatty acids, minerals,
calcium, B vitamins such as B-12 which latter can be obtained only from red
meat or supplements), and ingest and burn the correct number of calories for
your weight goals (loss/gain/maintenance) and are not allergic to fish, the
only ill effects of a diet such as yours would be inconvienience and/or
boredom (and perhaps a shrinking wallet from the cost of really yummy fresh
fish). If you enjoy it, lucky you--stick with it! 
Healthful eating is healthful eating, as long as you get what you need and
avoid what NOBODY ought to be eating.
Good to know caffeine is fine for us--I'll drink to that.
My husband's an O+, and has had no gastric problems whatsoever from his 2-3
cups of regular coffee a day.
Congrats on your recovery--may it continue! I'd take the baby aspirin, but
I'm already on ginkgo biloba for tinnitus so my cardio and ENT advise me
that an aspirin would increase the risk of hemorrhage (and aggravate my
tinnitus--were I not a musician the tinnitus would be tolerable). The ginkgo
has anticoagulant effects. (I do carry a regular aspirin to chew in case I
do exhibit signs of a heart attack or stroke). BTW, if you are taking
aspirin for its anticoagulant properties, beware of green tea--regular tea
is fine. Green tea increases synthesis of Vitamin K, which promotes clotting
(if you have a bleeding disorder, though, have all the green tea you want). 
On Mar 6, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Ken Mary wrote:
I have spent plenty of time on the internet investigating heart healthy 
diets and supplements. BTW I am fully recovered from my heart attack and
open heart surgery in December, and am off all medications except an 81mg
enteric coated aspirin daily. An echocardiogram March 5 showed minimal
damage to the heart.
About two months ago I began a mostly raw fruit and vegetable diet with no
meat except fish. I am also adopting the "Eat Right for Your Type" diet from
Dr. Peter D'Adamo. 
Sandra Andina
www.sandyandina.com

11) From: Sandra Andina
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On Mar 6, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Leo Zick wrote:
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Been awhile since I read the book, but I suspected it was a bit,  
well, suspect. Google Peter D'Adamo (or do a search at  
www.quackwatch.com).  I don't recall if Ken's particular regimen fits  
the book's advice for Type A+, but it is a fairly sensible if strict  
diet (much like the dead-animals-and-leaves low-glycemic-index diets)  
that can with a bit of tweaking be made healthful and tolerable for  
any blood type.  Your diet should be based on which healthful foods  
you like, which unhealthful favorites which intake seems to be  
uncontrollable for you can be defused by discipline, being made  
healthful or approximated by more healthful substitutes, what is  
practical for your own lifestyle needs (e.g., travel and having to  
eat late at night), religious and moral considerations, finances, and  
specific medical conditions--as far as I know, your blood type is not  
a "medical condition;" and some fringe-credentialed practitioners  
deeming a desire for a food to be either a sensitivity, addiction or  
even an allergy (completely ignoring the definition of an allergy as  
a specific immunological response) also make me gnash my teeth.
But there is no convincing a true believer on either side of the  
dietary/medical fence of the correctness or incorrectness of one's  
theories.
Sandy
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On Mar 6, 2007, at =
4:45 PM, Leo Zick wrote:
what you describe isnt = blood type specific.. does the author claim it to = be?   = Been awhile since I read = the book, but I suspected it was a bit, well, suspect. Google Peter = D'Adamo (or do a search at www.quackwatch.com).  I don't = recall if Ken's particular regimen fits the book's advice for Type A+, = but it is a fairly sensible if strict diet (much like the = dead-animals-and-leaves low-glycemic-index diets) that can with a bit of = tweaking be made healthful and tolerable for any blood type.  Your = diet should be based on which healthful foods you like, which = unhealthful favorites which intake seems to be uncontrollable for you = can be defused by discipline, being made healthful or approximated by = more healthful substitutes, what is practical for your own lifestyle = needs (e.g., travel and having to eat late at night), religious and = moral considerations, finances, and specific medical conditions--as far = as I know, your blood type is not a "medical condition;" and some = fringe-credentialed practitioners deeming a desire for a food to be = either a sensitivity, addiction or even an allergy (completely ignoring = the definition of an allergy as a specific immunological response) also = make me gnash my teeth.
But there is no convincing = a true believer on either side of the dietary/medical fence of the = correctness or incorrectness of one's theories.
Sandy
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12) From: Sean Cary
Oh well - I am O- and not about to give up coffee - guess my stomach will
hate me in the morning. 
Sean M. Cary
Major USMC
Tempus Fugit Memento Mori

13) From: Brett Mason
I refuse to read the book, out of fear and guilt....
But, I'm A+ and so coffee is good!
Planning to die right on time, and
Trusting in the Living God to set the schedule...
Brett
  RWA
On 3/6/07, Ken Mary  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

14) From: Steven Van Dyke
Sean,
Nah - I'm type O as well and I don't have any problem.  I just eat 
more meat. ;)
At 06:27 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
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15) From: Aaron
Bottom line is, eat healthy and exercise is the best for you.
If you are allergic to stuff, then don't eat it... big DUH there huh?
Grandma used to say eat a little bit of everything, but not too much of 
anything.
Fringe sciences, quackology, Dr spooges snake oil etc etc... some folks 
you will never convince that something works, others you will never 
convince that it don't work, they are set in their beliefs.  My thoughts 
are, if it is working for you then stick with it.
Do be careful though and don't concentrate on one aspect of being 
healthy that you ignore other aspects.  As an example... my doctor tried 
me on an atkins type of diet, which personally doesn't really make sense 
to me, although some swear by it...... anyways...  yes I lost weight  
BUT my cholesterol shot through the roof..... ok so which is worse, 
being a fat bastard, or having cholesterol that makes your blood like 
pudding and is screaming for a stroke / heart attack to happen?
If you eat right and get exercise then you should live a more healthier 
life with fewer problems (heredity not withstanding) but if you shove 
your fat face with bon bon's all day, while sitting on the couch 
watching jerry springer then guess what... you are going to have 
problems with both your tonnage and your  long term health.
Sadly though, most people while they know this, it generally takes a 
heart attack or a stroke for this philosophy to really sink in and 'wake 
them up'....if they survive that is.  Then on the flip side, we can have 
health nuts who die off as well.   Jim Fixx comes to mind.. as does Peg 
Bundy when she killed the health guy with her cooking :)
Aaron

16) From: Leo Zick
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i agree with you, but whatever works for people, and helps them change their
diets, is reason enough to follow a regimen.. :)  
From: Sandra Andina [mailto:sandraandina] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:49 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Coffee and blood type
On Mar 6, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Leo Zick wrote:
what you describe isnt blood type specific.. does the author claim it to be?  
Been awhile since I read the book, but I suspected it was a bit, well,
suspect. Google Peter D'Adamo (or do a search at www.quackwatch.com). I
don't recall if Ken's particular regimen fits the book's advice for Type A+,
but it is a fairly sensible if strict diet (much like the
dead-animals-and-leaves low-glycemic-index diets) that can with a bit of
tweaking be made healthful and tolerable for any blood type. Your diet
should be based on which healthful foods you like, which unhealthful
favorites which intake seems to be uncontrollable for you can be defused by
discipline, being made healthful or approximated by more healthful
substitutes, what is practical for your own lifestyle needs (e.g., travel
and having to eat late at night), religious and moral considerations,
finances, and specific medical conditions--as far as I know, your blood type
is not a "medical condition;" and some fringe-credentialed practitioners
deeming a desire for a food to be either a sensitivity, addiction or even an
allergy (completely ignoring the definition of an allergy as a specific
immunological response) also make me gnash my teeth. 
But there is no convincing a true believer on either side of the
dietary/medical fence of the correctness or incorrectness of one's theories.
Sandy 
www.sandyandina.com

17) From: Brett Mason
WHY do they need to change their diets?
What exactly is the STEPFORD DIET?
And Why am I not as ahppy as they all seem?
Does my blood type change to a C- or a D+ if I don't follow Goofy
MacDuck's New Fad Diet?
Do I have to change my political party?  What about my religion?
And when does this get OFF TOPIC enough to be OT prefaced?
Roasted Brazil yesterday and had a bloom explosion in the swissgold
that let me run post-brewed filtering to get to coffee.  But I
digress.
If I don't believe in Global Warming, then do I have to change my Diet twice?
When do the white coats come for me?
Brett
  Truly RWA
  Roaster, With an Attitude
On 3/6/07, Leo Zick  wrote:
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18) From: Sandra Andina
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On Mar 6, 2007, at 7:07 PM, Aaron wrote:
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Ditto folk legend Dave Carter. Both were avid exercisers, ate  
exemplary diets, and had healthy blood lipids, blood sugar and blood  
pressure levels.  Both died suddenly and prematurely (Carter didn't  
even make it to 50, and died after completing a jog). Their genes  
(and likely substances like homocysteine and c-reactive protein  
levels, which medical standards had not yet discovered must be  
monitored) most likely did them in. But had they been junk-food  
eating, sugar-swilling couch potatoes, they might have died in their  
twenties or thirties.
Then again, one could also get hit by a bus......
Sandra Andina
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7:07 PM, Aaron wrote:

Then on the flip side, we = can have health nuts who die off as well.   Jim Fixx comes to = mind.

Ditto folk legend Dave = Carter. Both were avid exercisers, ate exemplary diets, and had healthy = blood lipids, blood sugar and blood pressure levels.  Both died = suddenly and prematurely (Carter didn't even make it to 50, and died = after completing a jog). Their genes (and likely substances like = homocysteine and c-reactive protein levels, which medical standards had = not yet discovered must be monitored) most likely did them in. But had = they been junk-food eating, sugar-swilling couch potatoes, they might = have died in their twenties or thirties.
Then again, one could also = get hit by a bus...... Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

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19) From: Sandra Andina
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I have decided calories in/calories out, lots of water, avoiding  
trans fats and limiting saturated fats, and making my carbs as  
complex as possible (plus getting my lazy a** back on the treadmill-- 
or regularly slogging through airports, courthouse and hospital  
corridors, and convention-center passageways) will be the key for me.  
That and a cup of good homeroast instead every time I'm tempted by a  
milkshake, sundae, or chocolate egg cream.
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I have decided calories =
in/calories out, lots of water, avoiding trans fats and limiting =
saturated fats, and making my carbs as complex as possible (plus getting =
my lazy a** back on the treadmill--or regularly slogging through =
airports, courthouse and hospital corridors, and convention-center =
passageways) will be the key for me. That and a cup of good homeroast =
instead every time I'm tempted by a milkshake, sundae, or chocolate egg =
cream.
On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Brett Mason =
wrote:
WHY do they need to change their = diets? What exactly is the STEPFORD DIET? And Why = am I not as ahppy as they all seem? Does my blood type change to a = C- or a D+ if I don't follow GoofyMacDuck's New = Fad Diet? Do I have to change my political party?  What about my = religion? And when does this get OFF TOPIC enough to be OT = prefaced? Roasted Brazil yesterday and had a bloom explosion = in the swissgoldthat let me run post-brewed = filtering to get to coffee.  = But Idigress. If I = don't believe in Global Warming, then do I have to change my Diet = twice? When do the white coats come for me?  Truly RWA Roaste= r, With an AttitudeOn 3/6/07, Leo Zick <leo> = wrote: i agree with you, but whatever = works for people, and helps them change theirdiets, is reason enough to follow a regimen.. = :) From: Sandra = Andina [mailto:sandraandina]homeroast= s.comSubject: Re: +Coffee and blood = type On Mar 6, = 2007, at 4:45 PM, Leo Zick wrote: what you describe isnt blood = type specific.. does the author claim it to be? Been awhile since I read the = book, but I suspected it was a bit, well,suspect. = Google Peter D'Adamo (or do a search at www.quackwatch.com). Idon't recall if Ken's particular regimen fits the = book's advice for Type A+,but it is a = fairly sensible if strict diet (much like thedead-animals-and-leaves low-glycemic-index diets) = that can with a bit oftweaking be made healthful = and tolerable for any blood type. Your dietshould = be based on which healthful foods you like, which unhealthfulfavorites which intake seems to be uncontrollable = for you can be defused bydiscipline, = being made healthful or approximated by more healthfulsubstitutes, what is practical for your own = lifestyle needs (e.g., traveland having to = eat late at night), religious and moral considerations,finances, and specific medical conditions--as far as = I know, your blood typeis not a = "medical condition;" and some fringe-credentialed = practitionersdeeming a desire for a food to = be either a sensitivity, addiction or even anallergy (completely ignoring the definition of an = allergy as a specificimmunological response) = also make me gnash my teeth. But there is no convincing a = true believer on either side of the Sandy www.sandyandina.com = -- Brett http://homeroast.freeservers.com=homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

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20) From: Brett Mason
But what if we can't get you to change your diet?
We feel less useful if we can't force you to at least do something....
Have you tried Harry Krishna (not the religion, the character from the
Muppet Movie - worth seeing by the way for context)
Actually, sounds reasonable to me...
Brett
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21) From: Lynne Biziewski
Hey, let's take it down a notch. The OP was simply sharing what WORKED for
him. Again, I am very glad that he has healed from the (very serious) heart
attack.
Sheesh -
On 3/6/07, Brett Mason  wrote:
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22) From: Jim Carter
Brett,
The white coats already came for you........... you weren't home.
-- Jim Carter
Brett Mason wrote:
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23) From: Brett Mason
I was hiding...
On 3/6/07, Jim Carter  wrote:
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Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

24) From: Justin Marquez
We know... you only do what the voices tell you to do.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
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25) From: Ken Mary
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Read the book. Both Peter D'Adamo and his father formulated the diets
through their practises and lab work. The body reacts favorably or adversely
to lectins in foods solely depending on blood type. The reaction is a
surface binding and agglutination of cells (sometimes including blood cells)
occurring in the intestinal tract or isolated in an organ.
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26) From: Ken Mary
<Snip>
Be careful of the opinions at quackwatch. They appear to have an agenda, if
not an outright war, against all alternative health practitioners. Of
course, some really do deserve a war against them, but others present a real
danger to the medical/pharmaceutical establishment because their therapies
really do work. This is not necessarily my personal opinion, but I repeat
the words of others who have done the investigation.
--

27) From: Ken Mary
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<Snip>
Who was the famous health "expert" who died while jogging many years ago?
Was it Kenneth Cooper? I suspect he did not drink enough coffee. :-)
Why is coffee and caffeine so universally frowned upon by medical doctors
and alternative health people?
I also recently found out that a "famous" alternative health practitioner,
writer, raw foodist, and supplier of dietary supplements, Karl Loren, had a
stroke last Christmas Day.  He is recovering and now writing about stroke
treatment. His web info was instrumental in my conversion to a (mostly) raw
diet. http://www.oralchelation.com/--

28) From: Brian Kamnetz
Ken,
You may be thinking of Jim Fixx. He wrote a book that boosted jogging as a
fad. IIRC, he had heart trouble and decided to lose weight, which brought
him to jogging. I seem to recall that he died of a heart attack, but that
was in part due to his having become overconfident of the benefits of
jogging, and so he had stopped monitoring the heart. That's the way I recall
it, anyway, could be mistaken.
Brian
On 3/7/07, Ken Mary  wrote:
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29) From: Brett Mason
Ken,
I am thrilled you are well, and despite my jabs to the list, I am sure
there's some benefit from what you're offering for review.  I would
expect some of the health stuyff has merit.  I'm not a Doc, and I
don't personally have the expertiose to say Yes or NO on these....
Keep Brewin,
Brett
On 3/7/07, Ken Mary  wrote:
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Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

30) From: Angelo
Nobody dies prematurely....
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SNIP...

31) From: Justin Marquez
Or... everyone thinks *they* die prematurely!
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
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32) From: Leo Zick
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
good advice, i live by what goes in must be > what goes out to lose weight,
and health = moderation.  ive gotten my strongest and most fit from
following this.
but, we wont admit it,, but, we do know coffee isnt good for you, right? :/
sorry, this doesnt take into consideration kens coffee dr theory...  
From: Sandra Andina [mailto:sandraandina] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:45 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Coffee and blood type
I have decided calories in/calories out, lots of water, avoiding trans fats
and limiting saturated fats, and making my carbs as complex as possible
(plus getting my lazy a** back on the treadmill--or regularly slogging
through airports, courthouse and hospital corridors, and convention-center
passageways) will be the key for me. That and a cup of good homeroast
instead every time I'm tempted by a milkshake, sundae, or chocolate egg
cream.
On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Brett Mason wrote:
WHY do they need to change their diets?
What exactly is the STEPFORD DIET?
And Why am I not as ahppy as they all seem?
Does my blood type change to a C- or a D+ if I don't follow Goofy
MacDuck's New Fad Diet?
Do I have to change my political party? What about my religion?
And when does this get OFF TOPIC enough to be OT prefaced?
Roasted Brazil yesterday and had a bloom explosion in the swissgold
that let me run post-brewed filtering to get to coffee. But I
digress.
If I don't believe in Global Warming, then do I have to change my Diet
twice?
When do the white coats come for me?
Brett
Truly RWA
Roaster, With an Attitude
On 3/6/07, Leo Zick  wrote:
i agree with you, but whatever works for people, and helps them change their
diets, is reason enough to follow a regimen.. :)
From: Sandra Andina [mailto:sandraandina]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:49 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Coffee and blood type
On Mar 6, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Leo Zick wrote:
what you describe isnt blood type specific.. does the author claim it to be?
Been awhile since I read the book, but I suspected it was a bit, well,
suspect. Google Peter D'Adamo (or do a search at www.quackwatch.com). I
don't recall if Ken's particular regimen fits the book's advice for Type A+,
but it is a fairly sensible if strict diet (much like the
dead-animals-and-leaves low-glycemic-index diets) that can with a bit of
tweaking be made healthful and tolerable for any blood type. Your diet
should be based on which healthful foods you like, which unhealthful
favorites which intake seems to be uncontrollable for you can be defused by
discipline, being made healthful or approximated by more healthful
substitutes, what is practical for your own lifestyle needs (e.g., travel
and having to eat late at night), religious and moral considerations,
finances, and specific medical conditions--as far as I know, your blood type
is not a "medical condition;" and some fringe-credentialed practitioners
deeming a desire for a food to be either a sensitivity, addiction or even an
allergy (completely ignoring the definition of an allergy as a specific
immunological response) also make me gnash my teeth.
But there is no convincing a true believer on either side of the
dietary/medical fence of the correctness or incorrectness of one's theories.
Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
-- 
Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.comSandraAndina
www.sandyandina.com

33) From: Sandra Andina
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Actually, moderate amounts of caffeine can ward off Alzheimer's  
disease and help combat asthma.
On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Leo Zick wrote:
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Actually, moderate amounts of =
caffeine can ward off Alzheimer's disease and help combat =
asthma.
On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Leo Zick =
wrote:
good advice, i live by what goes in must be > what goes = out to lose weight, and health = moderation.  ive gotten my = strongest and most fit from following this. but, we wont admit it,, = but, we do know coffee isnt good for you, right? :/ = sorry, this doesnt take = into consideration kens coffee dr theory...   = From: Sandra Andina [mailto:sandraandina] = Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:45 PM To: homeroast= s.com Subject: Re: +Coffee and blood = type I have decided calories in/calories = out, lots of water, avoiding trans fats and limiting saturated fats, and = making my carbs as complex as possible (plus getting my lazy a** back on = the treadmill--or regularly slogging through airports, courthouse and = hospital corridors, and convention-center passageways) will be the key = for me. That and a cup of good homeroast instead every time I'm tempted = by a milkshake, sundae, or chocolate egg cream. On Mar 6, = 2007, at 8:24 PM, Brett Mason wrote:
WHY do they need to change their diets? = What exactly is the STEPFORD DIET? And Why am I not as ahppy as they all seem? Does my blood type change to a C- or a D+ if I don't follow = Goofy MacDuck's New Fad Diet? = Do I have to change my political party? What about my religion? = And when does this get OFF TOPIC enough to be OT = prefaced? = Roasted Brazil yesterday and had a bloom = explosion in the swissgold that let = me run post-brewed filtering to get to coffee. But I digress. If I don't believe in Global = Warming, then do I have to change my Diet twice? When do the white coats come for me? Brett = Truly RWA Roaster, With an Attitude = On 3/6/07, Leo Zick <leo> = wrote: i agree with = you, but whatever works for people, and helps them change = their diets, is reason enough to = follow a regimen.. :) From: Sandra Andina [mailto:sandraandina] To: homeroast= s.com Subject: Re: +Coffee and = blood type On Mar 6, 2007, at 4:45 = PM, Leo Zick wrote: what you describe isnt = blood type specific.. does the author claim it to be? Been awhile since I read the book, but I suspected = it was a bit, well, suspect. = Google Peter D'Adamo (or do a search at www.quackwatch.com). I = don't recall if Ken's particular regimen fits = the book's advice for Type A+, but it is a fairly sensible if strict diet (much like the = dead-animals-and-leaves low-glycemic-index = diets) that can with a bit of tweaking be made healthful and tolerable for any blood type. = Your diet should be based on which = healthful foods you like, which unhealthful favorites which intake seems to be uncontrollable = for you can be defused by discipline, being made healthful or approximated by more = healthful substitutes, what is = practical for your own lifestyle needs (e.g., travel and having to eat late at night), religious and = moral considerations, finances, and = specific medical conditions--as far as I know, your blood type = is not a "medical condition;" and some = fringe-credentialed practitioners deeming a desire for a food to be either a sensitivity, = addiction or even an allergy = (completely ignoring the definition of an allergy as a = specific immunological response) = also make me gnash my teeth. But there is = no convincing a true believer on either side of the dietary/medical fence of the correctness or = incorrectness of one's theories. Sandy = www.sandyandina.com -- Cheers, Brett http://homeroast.freeservers.com= homeroast mailing list http://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast To change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings<= /DIV> Sandra Andina = www.sandyandina.com

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34) From: Ken Mary
Sorry, the death of Dr. Cooper has been greatly exaggerated.http://premierespeakers.com/kenneth_cooper/bio--
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35) From: Sandra Andina
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I think some people on the list are confusing Dr. Cooper, who  
introduced the term "aerobics," with Jim Fixx, who "evangelized" it  
but indeed died in his fifties. (His brother, a non-runner, died in  
his thirties. 20 extra years is 20 extra years).
On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Ken Mary wrote:
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I think some people on the list =
are confusing Dr. Cooper, who introduced the term "aerobics," with Jim =
Fixx, who "evangelized" it but indeed died in his fifties. (His brother, =
a non-runner, died in his thirties. 20 extra years is 20 extra =
years).
On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Ken Mary =
wrote:
Sorry, the death of Dr. Cooper = has been greatly exaggerated.http://premierespe=akers.com/kenneth_cooper/bio-- From: = "Ken Mary" <kdmary>To: homeroast= s.comSubject: Re: +Coffee and blood = typeDate: Wed, Mar 7, 2007, 10:24 = AM Who was the famous health "expert" who died while = jogging many years ago?Was it = Kenneth Cooper? I suspect he did not drink enough coffee. :-) = homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandra = Andinawww.sandyandina.com

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