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Topic: Subject: RE: +dual bean hopper (7 msgs / 485 lines)
1) From: Ron Wood
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Why would one not store beans in a hopper?  Mine are usually used up =
within a week. I've had my home machine with a hopper for over a year =
and haven't noticed anything adverse.  Am I missing something here?  
  
From: "Leo Zick" 
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Subject: RE: +dual bean hopper
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:23:47 -0500
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Don't store in the hopper
 
From: Ron Wood [mailto:rmwood1] 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:53 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: +dual bean hopper
 
I just purchased a Technivorm for the office.  (The superautomatic at =
home
would be a hassle to transport daily.) I finally had to opt out of the
"coffee club"  at work.  SM and this list sure have spoiled me.  Anyhow, =
the
next purchase down the road will be a new grinder.  I like caffiene in =
the
AM and decaf in the PM.  A dual bean hopper on the grinder would be
conveinent.  (Kind of like the two kegger...pilsner for breakfast and =
ales
for lunch).  Like I said, I have become spoiled.  I can dream though, =
can't
I...ahhh...Rocky to the rescue.
 
Ron  

2) From: Ron Wood
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Wow.  Nice grinder.  That will be right after the six figure stereo.  =
Unfortunately, my $2 didn't hit in the most recent lottery.  But, it =
could happen..........
From: Slinkster 
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +dual bean hopper
Reply-To: homeroast
Ron Wood wrote:
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There's always the Marzocco Swift...What sort of expense account do you 
have?  *eg*

3) From: Leo Zick
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b/c they will stale within hours. They should be in valve bags or jars to
keep em really fresh..
From: Ron Wood [mailto:rmwood1] 
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:54 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Subject: RE: +dual bean hopper
Why would one not store beans in a hopper?  Mine are usually used up within
a week. I've had my home machine with a hopper for over a year and haven't
noticed anything adverse.  Am I missing something here?  
From: "Leo Zick" <  leo>
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homeroast>
Subject: RE: +dual bean hopper
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:23:47 -0500
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Don't store in the hopper
From: Ron Wood [mailto:rmwood1] 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:53 AM
To:  
homeroast
Subject: +dual bean hopper
I just purchased a Technivorm for the office.  (The superautomatic at home
would be a hassle to transport daily.) I finally had to opt out of the
"coffee club"  at work.  SM and this list sure have spoiled me.  Anyhow, the
next purchase down the road will be a new grinder.  I like caffiene in the
AM and decaf in the PM.  A dual bean hopper on the grinder would be
conveinent.  (Kind of like the two kegger...pilsner for breakfast and ales
for lunch).  Like I said, I have become spoiled.  I can dream though, can't
I...ahhh...Rocky to the rescue.
Ron  

4) From: jim gundlach
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I will have to disagree with Leo.  Like Ron, I store in the hopper  
while rarely have a bean over six or seven days old I detect no  
staleness in the flavor on those few occasions that it goes to eight  
or even nine days.  I see valve bags or jars as tools to try to make  
two or three week coffee taste like fresh roasted.
     Pecan Jim
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I will have to disagree with =
Leo.  Like Ron, I store in the hopper while rarely have a bean over =
six or seven days old I detect no staleness in the flavor on those few =
occasions that it goes to eight or even nine days.  I see valve bags =
or jars as tools to try to make two or three week coffee taste like =
fresh roasted.    Pecan Jim  
On Mar 11, 2007, =
at 10:14 AM, Leo Zick wrote:

b/c they will = stale within hours. They should be in valve bags or jars to keep em = really fresh..

 

Ron Wood [mailto:rmwood1]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:54 AM
To: homeroast= s.com
Subject: Subject: RE: +dual bean hopper 

Why would one not store beans in a hopper?  Mine are = usually used up within a week. I've had my home machine with a = hopper for over a year and haven't noticed anything adverse.  Am I = missing something here?  

 

  

From: "Leo = Zick" <leo>
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Subject: RE: +dual bean = hopper
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:23:47 = -0500
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Don't store in the hopper

 

From: Ron Wood [mailto:rmwood1]
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:53 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: +dual bean hopper

 

I just purchased a Technivorm for the office. = (The superautomatic at home
would be a = hassle to transport daily.) I finally had to opt out of the
"coffee club"  at work.  SM and this list sure = have spoiled me.  Anyhow, the
next purchase = down the road will be a new grinder.  I like caffiene in the
AM and decaf in the PM.  A dual bean hopper on the = grinder would be
conveinent.  (Kind of like the two = kegger...pilsner for breakfast and ales
for lunch).  = Like I said, I have become spoiled.  I can dream though, = can't
I...ahhh...Rocky to the rescue.

 

Ron  = --Apple-Mail-3--95193109--


5) From: Leo Zick
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To me, beans in the hopper mean:
1.     Cant swap. I go through 3-4 different beans/blends on a regular basis
2.     More cleaning. Beans let off so many oils that the hopper and burr
assemblies would be that much dirtier. Look at a bag after a week of coffee
in it, those oils are now in the grinder.
3.     Faster staling. Im sure none of us are that good to detect all the
nuances of coffee, but if youre going through the trouble of roasting,
storing, buying expensive equipment, etc. why add one more variable.
To each his own, and YRMV and obgyn and any other acronyms youd like..
Leo
From: jim gundlach [mailto:PecanJim] 
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:10 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: +dual bean hopper
I will have to disagree with Leo.  Like Ron, I store in the hopper while
rarely have a bean over six or seven days old I detect no staleness in the
flavor on those few occasions that it goes to eight or even nine days.  I
see valve bags or jars as tools to try to make two or three week coffee
taste like fresh roasted.
    Pecan Jim  
On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Leo Zick wrote:
b/c they will stale within hours. They should be in valve bags or jars to
keep em really fresh..
From: Ron Wood [mailto:rmwood1] 
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:54 AM
To: homeroast
Subject: Subject: RE: +dual bean hopper
Why would one not store beans in a hopper?  Mine are usually used up within
a week. I've had my home machine with a hopper for over a year and haven't
noticed anything adverse.  Am I missing something here?  
From: "Leo Zick" <  leo>
To: < 
homeroast>
Subject: RE: +dual bean hopper
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:23:47 -0500
Reply-To:  
homeroast
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Don't store in the hopper
From: Ron Wood [mailto:rmwood1] 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:53 AM
To:  
homeroast
Subject: +dual bean hopper
I just purchased a Technivorm for the office.  (The superautomatic at home
would be a hassle to transport daily.) I finally had to opt out of the
"coffee club"  at work.  SM and this list sure have spoiled me.  Anyhow, the
next purchase down the road will be a new grinder.  I like caffiene in the
AM and decaf in the PM.  A dual bean hopper on the grinder would be
conveinent.  (Kind of like the two kegger...pilsner for breakfast and ales
for lunch).  Like I said, I have become spoiled.  I can dream though, can't
I...ahhh...Rocky to the rescue.
Ron 

6) From: Floyd Lozano
I thinki the darker the beans the more noticeable the effect - if there are
more oils on the surface and they are in contact with evil air overlong,
they begin to go rancid.  Likely not as big a problem with lighter roasts.
It's hard to say though - for the sake of ease I usually measure out my
beans 8 hours before I wake up so it's ready go to in the morning.  My
weekend coffee usually tastes better, when I grind it seconds before brewing
;)
-F
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7) From: Jeff Oien
Ken Mary has written about how he actually prefers open containers for 
roasted bean storage. And don't hoppers have lids? I know that hoppers 
are big enough to have more oxygen in them than an appropriately sized 
jar or bag but I can't think it would make that much more of a 
difference. Maybe I shouldn't talk because I store in jars. I have a 
collection of all different sizes and cap colors that I like to look at. 
Then there's the mug collection...
JeffO
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