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Topic: oooh, that smell... (10 msgs / 565 lines)
1) From: Robert D. Crawford
I was gifted a moka pot.  This is a cheap, aluminum pot in the 3 tasse
size.  It has a smell / taste to it that has not yet gone away.  I think
it smells and tastes somewhat like what I remember machinist's oil
smelling like, but it has been several years since I have been in a
machine shop.  I think it is probably the gasket, but the inside of the
bottom section has the smell as well.  Here is what I have done,
starting from the first day:
1.  Washed the pot in warm, soapy water.
2.  Ran 1 pot of my partner's mother's Mountain Grown swill through it
and promptly discarded the coffee.
3.  Made a pot with my coffee... don't remember what bean I used.
4.  Noticed the taste but was not concerned as I expect the first few
cups to have the taste.
5.  Made a second cup... same result.
6.  Soaked pot for .5 hr and washed again in soapy water and air dried.
7.  New pot of coffee... old result.
8.  Soaked, washed and air dried again.
9.  New pot... same result.
10.  Pot of vinegar water (I'm getting desperate now)
11.  2 pots of clean water
12.  New pot of coffee, killed a goat, sacrificed a virgin.  No joy.
Is there something I can do, or should I scrap this pot.  I would like
to get a SS pot from SM but now I really can't afford the $$.
I hope it was not out of line to ask this.  The pot is not from SM, but
the coffee is.
Thanks for your time and help,
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
Love -- the last of the serious diseases of childhood.

2) From: Sandra Andina
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Sounds like oils or metal polish left over from the factory.   
Definitely "petrolly" smell like mineral oil or WD-40, I'd bet. (A  
similar smell that is NOT due to the presence of petroleum  
distillates can be  characteristic of a good aged Riesling). Can get  
into the porous rubber gasket and take hold. Not very appetizing and  
not very healthful, either.  Try a new gasket and see if that helps  
(my guess is all that washing may have dissipated the smell enough  
from the pot so that a fresh gasket might not stink). Good luck.
On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:13 PM, Robert D. Crawford wrote:
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Sounds like oils or metal polish =
left over from the factory.  Definitely "petrolly" smell like mineral =
oil or WD-40, I'd bet. (A similar smell that is NOT due to the presence =
of petroleum distillates can be  characteristic of a good aged =
Riesling). Can get into the porous rubber gasket and take hold. Not very =
appetizing and not very healthful, either.  Try a new gasket and see =
if that helps (my guess is all that washing may have dissipated the =
smell enough from the pot so that a fresh gasket might not stink). Good =
luck.
On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:13 PM, Robert D. Crawford =
wrote:
I was gifted a moka pot.  This is a cheap, aluminum pot = in the 3 tassesize.  It has a smell / taste to it = that has not yet gone away.  = I thinkit smells and tastes somewhat = like what I remember machinist's oilsmelling = like, but it has been several years since I have been in amachine shop. = I think it is probably the gasket, but the inside of = thebottom section has the smell as = well.  Here is what I = have done,starting from the first = day: 1.  = Washed the pot in warm, soapy water.2.  Ran 1 pot of my partner's = mother's Mountain Grown swill through itand = promptly discarded the coffee.3.  Made a pot with my coffee... = don't remember what bean I used.4.  Noticed the taste but was not = concerned as I expect the first fewcups to have = the taste.5.  Made a second cup... same = result.6.  Soaked pot for .5 hr and = washed again in soapy water and air dried.7.  New pot of coffee... old = result.8.  Soaked, washed and air dried = again.9.  New pot... same = result.10.  Pot of vinegar water (I'm = getting desperate now)11.  2 pots of clean = water12.  New pot of coffee, killed a = goat, sacrificed a virgin.  = No joy. Is there something I can do, or should I scrap this = pot.  I would = liketo get a SS pot from SM but now = I really can't afford the $$. I hope it was not out of line to = ask this.  The pot is not = from SM, butthe coffee is. Thanks = for your time and help,rdc-- Robert = D. Crawford             =                         robdcraw Love -- = the last of the serious diseases of childhood.homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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3) From: Robert D. Crawford
Sandra Andina  writes:
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Exactly.
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Thanks for your response.  I'll have a gander at it tomorrow but I am
not sure if I can get the gasket out.  I tried in the washing stages to
get the gasket and screen (at the time I was focused mostly on the
screen) but lots of turning and nothing else was the result.  
Thanks again for your help,
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
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a few of the children in the world shouldn't be raised by beginners.

4) From: Sandra Andina
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You may need a pointed screw and screwdriver to get the gasket out.   
Drive the screw in (the point starts its own hole) and then pull on  
the screw--should take the gasket out with it.
On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Robert D. Crawford wrote:
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Sandy Andina
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You may need a pointed screw and =
screwdriver to get the gasket out.  Drive the screw in (the point =
starts its own hole) and then pull on the screw--should take the gasket =
out with it.
On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Robert D. =
Crawford wrote:
Sandra Andina <sandraandina> = writes: = Sounds like oils or metal = polish left over from the factory.   = Can get into the porous = rubber gasket and take hold. Not verysee if that helps (my guess is = all that washing may have dissipatedthe smell = enough from the pot so that a fresh gasket might notstink). Good luck. Thanks = for your response.  I'll = have a gander at it tomorrow but I amnot sure = if I can get the gasket out.  = I tried in the washing stages toget the = gasket and screen (at the time I was focused mostly on thescreen) but lots of turning and nothing else was the = result.   Thanks = again for your help,rdc-- Robert = D. Crawford             =                         robdcraw The real = reason large families benefit society is because at leasta few of the children in the world shouldn't be = raised by beginners.homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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5) From: Robert D. Crawford
Sandra Andina  writes:
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Pried the gasket out this morning and rewashed the whole thing, washing
the gasket _extra_ well.  I am happy to report that I seem to have
solved the problem.  I think you were right in that it was left over
polishing chemicals or somesuch.  I think they were trapped under the
gasket and just needed cleaning out.  
After a little while of using this one and seeing how I like it, maybe I
can talk the pretty lady holding the purse strings into a SS pot.
Thanks for all of your help,
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
The future is a myth created by insurance salesmen and high school counselors.

6) From: Woody DeCasere
you may want to run a few batches through with coffee before actually
drinking it.
On 3/15/07, Robert D. Crawford  wrote:
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7) From: Brian Kamnetz
On 3/15/07, Robert D. Crawford  wrote:
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I use one of my Bialetti SS moka pots (I have a 4 tasse and a 6 tasse)
nearly every day, but even if i didn't, they are so pretty they are worth
having around just to look at.
Brian

8) From: Sandra Andina
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You're welcome! Glad to be of help!
On Mar 15, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Robert D. Crawford wrote:
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You're welcome! Glad to be of =
help!
On Mar 15, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Robert D. Crawford =
wrote:
Sandra Andina <sandraandina> = writes: = You may need a pointed = screw and screwdriver to get the gasket out. Drive the screw in (the point starts its own hole) = and then pull onthe screw--should take the = gasket out with it. Pried the gasket out this = morning and rewashed the whole thing, washingthe gasket _extra_ well.  I am happy to report that I = seem to havesolved the problem.  I think you were right in = that it was left overpolishing chemicals or = somesuch.  I think they = were trapped under thegasket and just needed = cleaning out.   After a = little while of using this one and seeing how I like it, maybe = Ican talk the pretty lady holding the purse = strings into a SS pot.Thanks for all of your = help,rdc-- Robert = D. Crawford             =                         robdcraw The = future is a myth created by insurance salesmen and high school = counselors.homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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9) From: French Lewis
Hi Robert,
It sounds like it could possibly be rancid coffee
oils.   You might want to consider soaking the pot in
cafiza to try to eradicate those oils/smell.   
However, you also might want to check with the more
knowledgeable on the list to see if Cafiza is
compatable with the aluminium in the moka pot...
Good luck,
French
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10) From: Robert D. Crawford
French Lewis  writes:
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I would have thought that with the little use it had and all the washing
I went through that would not have been an issue.  I could be wrong,
though. 
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I did consider something like this.  We have some sort of cleaner here
at the house made for coffee makers.  I used it in an old cheap espresso
machine a few times but had to throw it away eventually.  I did not try
it on the pot, however, because I could not find it and my partner was
not home to help me to locate it.
Thanks for your response,
rdc
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Robert D. Crawford                                     robdcraw
If your mother knew what you're doing, she'd probably hang her head and cry.


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