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Topic: "a more durable model" group brush (18 msgs / 454 lines)
1) From: Slinkster
Tom sells the standard plastic group brush with a red plastic handle and 
fat red bristles.  Maybe it's my cleaning style but I find these brushes 
to be incredibly indurable.  The description for said brush on SM's 
website says they (SM) is now using "a more durable model" - so what is 
it and where can I get one?

2) From: Slinkster
Slinkster wrote:
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Red handle, fat PLASTIC bristles, black.
Need more coffee, obviously.

3) From: Leo Zick
http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid‘346&catid3682&trxST-0-CAT&trxp13682&trxp2‘346&trxp3=1&trxp4=0&btrxY-PLST-0-CAT

4) From: Slinkster
Leo Zick wrote:
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Bahahahah!  I'm actually using a denture brush right now - better angle 
of attack and stiffer bristles :D

5) From: Leo Zick
And costs less too. They work great, no need to spend the money on a
marketed 'group head' brush..

6) From: miKe mcKoffee
Google "Pallo Coffee Tool". Excellent combination angled group brush (with
replacable heads), back flush cleaner measuring spoon & steam tip hole
clearer all-in-one.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
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7) From: Michael Dhabolt
I'll second mikes recommendation for the 'Pallo' tool.  I keep thinking that
someone will come up with the perfect group cleaning protocol and tool -
I've tried everything that I've seen - nothing perfect.  The 'Pallo' tool is
the best I've found, so far.
Mike (just plain)

8) From: raymanowen
I, too was exasperated at always finding more grounds with a terry cloth
cleaning rag. I got a few more grounds until the last wipe came out pure
white.
Then I decided to apply Technology! After the rag came out speckless and
white once, I pulled out my old Oral B electric rechargeable toothbrush. I
put on a new tip, wetted it and started Roto Rooting the gasket/ groove
area.
Wow! I thought the clean rag had been proof of a clean group gasket- 'Tain'=
t
so, McGee! I got all kinds of coffee residue out of the  group. And
I thought I had been keeping it Pristine and clean to save the gasket...
New life for old electric toothbrush, at least 5 years old. I found a new
replacement, nearly identical, for about the same price I paid at Cub Foods
years ago. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'...  Ray scraps nothing.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
*
Disclaimer:* *Statements contained herein have not been evaluated by the
SCAA.* This free advice is worth every penny and is not intended to
diagnose, treat, cure or ameliorate any coffee SNAFU. Always consult your
professional cupper to see if it's right for you… Discontinue use and tel=
l
your Cupper if the coffee develops off-flavors. Side effects are usually
mild…

9) From: stereoplegic
that's what i use. i clean the gasket with the small side and the group 
itself with the large side.
slinkster wrote:
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10) From: Barry Luterman
Also denture brush is good for cleaning burrs in the grinder

11) From: Lisa J. Carton, LICSW
That is so cool--what a great idea, thanks Ray!  Now i am going to HAVE to =
try that...........
Also:I use the Pallo Tool and actually like it a W=
HOLE LOT better than the "red brush with the hard bristles"~ for me, the Pa=
llo Tool rocks!  Convenient little measure on the other end for scooping ca=
ffix/Joe Gloe, too...  I use it every day------several times a day----and h=
ave had it a few months and see no wear yet ---and it came with replacement=
 bristles, too.....  I also keep a natural bristle vegetable cleaner thinge=
e nearby and my usual regimen is: after every shot pulled i run a few secon=
ds of water thru to rinse, give a quick brush with the "veggie brush", then=
 blank portafilter (also kept nearby) jiggle swish, then Pallo tool the edg=
es inside.......sometimes add another jiggle swish with the blank portafilt=
er and/or rinse a bit......a wipe with a sponge/cloth reveals no residue at=
 this point.....sounds like a lot but it goes quickly as it's routine now..=
...I am betting that when i DO try roto-rootering it with an electric brush=
 i will still get stuff out!  BTW, i
 run a real backflush with JOeGLoe once a week.....
......and it is amazi=
ng that what you think is clean is NOT!
----- Original Messag=
e ----
From: "raymanowen" 
To: homeroas=
t
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:52:40 PM
Subje=
ct: Re: +"a more durable model" group brush
I, too was exasperated at =
always finding more grounds with a terry cloth cleaning rag. I got a few mo=
re grounds until the last wipe came out pure white.
Then I decided to =
apply Technology! After the rag came out speckless and white once, I pulled=
 out my old Oral B electric rechargeable toothbrush. I put on a new tip, we=
tted it and started Roto Rooting the gasket/ groove area. 
Wow! I thou=
ght the clean rag had been proof of a clean group gasket- 'Tain't so, McGee=
! I got all kinds of coffee residue out of the  group. And I though=
t I had been keeping it Pristine and clean to save the gasket... 
New =
life for old electric toothbrush, at least 5 years old. I found a new repla=
cement, nearly identical, for about the same price I paid at Cub Foods year=
s ago. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'...  Ray scraps nothing. 
C=
heers -RayO, aka Opa!
Disclaimer: Statements contained herein have not=
 been evaluated by the SCAA. This free advice is worth every penny and is n=
ot intended to diagnose, treat, cure or ameliorate any coffee SNAFU. Always=
 consult your professional cupper to see if it's right for you… Discontin=
ue use and tell your Cupper if the coffee develops off-flavors. Side effect=
s are usually mild…=
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12) From: MichaelB
Brushing and scrubbing is nice, but why not try a high pressure wash. Use a
blind filter basket and wriggle it in place while applying shot pressure. B=
e
careful when you do this; there's a real blast when you do it, but wrigglin=
g
the portafilter and switching the pump on and off can really steam clean th=
e
whole inside of the grouphead.
I've had even better luck using a rubber backflush disk in the bottom of th=
e
portafilter without using a basket. That way the whole gasket is exposed an=
d
cleaning is even more efficient.
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13) From: Leo Zick
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You think the 'gunk' you were removing was actually rubber? 
----- Original Message ----
From: "raymanowen" 
To: homeroast
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:52:40 PM
Subject: Re: +"a more durable model" group brush
I, too was exasperated at always finding more grounds with a terry cloth
cleaning rag. I got a few more grounds until the last wipe came out pure
white.
Then I decided to apply Technology! After the rag came out speckless and
white once, I pulled out my old Oral B electric rechargeable toothbrush. I
put on a new tip, wetted it and started Roto Rooting the gasket/ groove
area. 
Wow! I thought the clean rag had been proof of a clean group gasket- 'Tain't
so, McGee! I got all kinds of coffee residue out of the  group. And
I thought I had been keeping it Pristine and clean to save the gasket... 
New life for old electric toothbrush, at least 5 years old. I found a new
replacement, nearly identical, for about the same price I paid at Cub Foods
years ago. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'...  Ray scraps nothing. 
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Disclaimer: Statements contained herein have not been evaluated by the SCAA.
This free advice is worth every penny and is not intended to diagnose,
treat, cure or ameliorate any coffee SNAFU. Always consult your professional
cupper to see if it's right for you. Discontinue use and tell your Cupper if
the coffee develops off-flavors. Side effects are usually mild.  
Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo!
  Mail for
Mobile and 
always   stay
connected to friends.

14) From: Leo Zick
This is a multipart message in MIME format.
I sometimes pf wiggle, but find a brush works better.
Another trick is to put pf in place with blind basket as if you were
backflushing, but after 3-4 seconds, loosen the pf.  This will sort of
reverse flush things. Also a good trick for loosening gasket.
From: MichaelB [mailto:espressoperson] 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:25 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +"a more durable model" group brush
Brushing and scrubbing is nice, but why not try a high pressure wash. Use a
blind filter basket and wriggle it in place while applying shot pressure. Be
careful when you do this; there's a real blast when you do it, but wriggling
the portafilter and switching the pump on and off can really steam clean the
whole inside of the grouphead. 
I've had even better luck using a rubber backflush disk in the bottom of the
portafilter without using a basket. That way the whole gasket is exposed and
cleaning is even more efficient.
On 3/17/07, Lisa J. Carton, LICSW  wrote: 
That is so cool--what a great idea, thanks Ray!  Now i am going to HAVE to
try that...........
Also:I use the Pallo Tool and actually like it a WHOLE LOT better than the
"red brush with the hard bristles"~ for me, the Pallo Tool rocks!
Convenient little measure on the other end for scooping caffix/Joe Gloe,
too...  I use it every day------several times a day----and have had it a few
months and see no wear yet ---and it came with replacement bristles,
too.....  I also keep a natural bristle vegetable cleaner thingee nearby and
my usual regimen is: after every shot pulled i run a few seconds of water
thru to rinse, give a quick brush with the "veggie brush", then blank
portafilter (also kept nearby) jiggle swish, then Pallo tool the edges
inside.......sometimes add another jiggle swish with the blank portafilter
and/or rinse a bit......a wipe with a sponge/cloth reveals no residue at
this point.....sounds like a lot but it goes quickly as it's routine
now.....I am betting that when i DO try roto-rootering it with an electric
brush i will still get stuff out!  BTW, i run a real backflush with JOeGLoe
once a week..... 
......and it is amazing that what you think is clean is NOT!
----- Original Message ----
From: "   raymanowen"
To: homeroast
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:52:40 PM
Subject: Re: +"a more durable model" group brush
I, too was exasperated at always finding more grounds with a terry cloth
cleaning rag. I got a few more grounds until the last wipe came out pure
white.
Then I decided to apply Technology! After the rag came out speckless and
white once, I pulled out my old Oral B electric rechargeable toothbrush. I
put on a new tip, wetted it and started Roto Rooting the gasket/ groove
area. 
Wow! I thought the clean rag had been proof of a clean group gasket- 'Tain't
so, McGee! I got all kinds of coffee residue out of the  group. And
I thought I had been keeping it Pristine and clean to save the gasket... 
New life for old electric toothbrush, at least 5 years old. I found a new
replacement, nearly identical, for about the same price I paid at Cub Foods
years ago. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'...  Ray scraps nothing. 
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Disclaimer: Statements contained herein have not been evaluated by the SCAA.
This free advice is worth every penny and is not intended to diagnose,
treat, cure or ameliorate any coffee SNAFU. Always consult your professional
cupper to see if it's right for you. Discontinue use and tell your Cupper if
the coffee develops off-flavors. Side effects are usually mild.  
Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile
  and 
always stay connected
  to friends.
--
MichaelB 

15) From: Angelo
Looks like you could heat and bend an old toothbrush into that shape, 
trim the bristles and save yerself a couple of bucks...
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16) From: miKe mcKoffee
Sure could. In fact that's exactly what I did and used for about a year
before getting a Pallo. IMO Pallo bristles work better plus don't have to
use a "kitchen" measuring spoon or guesstimate amount anymore for espresso
machine detergent back flushing. Haven't needed to use the steam tip poker
but nice to have just in case:-) Sometimes it's just nice to have and use
the nice proper tool too.
Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
 
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17) From: Barry Luterman
You showed your Pallo (I was going to say tool but thought the better of it. 
Although Pallo might cause problems also) and was impressed. I ordered one 
today and in keeping with paying "paradise tax" shipping was one more dollar 
than the cost of the item.

18) From: raymanowen
A.- My espresso maker is a Capresso pretender (Classic), so I don't get any
classic espresso brewing training. Actually, I'm paying attention to the
things I should Not do. I see a problem with my convex surface tamper and
rocking the tamper instead of just a steady force normal to the coffee puck=
.
B- My gasket seems to be made of some silicone compound, and odd sized at
52mm PF. I try to keep things speckless because I have no desire to tempt i=
t
to leak and have to replace it.
If I ever need to replace the flat gasket- I hope not. I'd be clueless abou=
t
how to Find a new one, and how to tack it in place. A groove can be milled,
maybe in the top ID of the PF handle and a Neoprene O-ring substituted. Non
standard, but a Helluva lot better seal.
I hope I can get a lever machine long before that so I can start learning
for real. I know, you have to be smarter than the machine. Better late than
never...
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
*Disclaimer:* *Statements contained herein have not been evaluated by the
SCAA.* This free advice is worth every penny and is not intended to
diagnose, treat, cure or ameliorate any coffee SNAFU. Always consult your
professional cupper to see if it's right for you… Discontinue use and tel=
l
your Cupper if the coffee develops off-flavors. Side effects are usually
mild and include revulsion for most coffee shop bilge water...


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