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Topic: strange hottop noices! (16 msgs / 503 lines)
1) From: Claus Thøgersen
Hi,
My hottop have started to sound very strange for such a device. When the HT 
is cold and if I take out the glass front and rotate the drum by hand I feel 
and hear an awfull sound as if the drum is not spinning around normally but 
instead grinding against other metal parts somewhere inside the machine.
This awfull sound goes on for the first 2 or 3 minutes during the first warm 
up before the beeps that indicate that the machine is ready for green beans. 
During the roast the noice level is almost what I was used to hear until a 
few weeks ago.
During cooldown the noices  reappears.
Conclusion something is wrong when the machine is cold but a warm machine 
fixes whatever it is.
My thinking is that something is wrong with the drum, probably the part that 
is pushed into the motor itself has been altered, I cannot describe it 
better. If  this is correct do I then have to buy a new drum to correct 
this, or any other ideas about what  is wrong here?
Claus
Hoping to have  many years and many pounds roasted still left in my HT!!!

2) From: Barry Luterman
I'm not sure but I seem to remember some one having the same problem a few 
years ago. As I remember it turned out to be a bent shaft on the drum. Any 
one remember it too?

3) From: MichaelB
Claus,
Randy Glass has a websitehttp://www.espressomyespresso.com/with a hottop
faq. Nos 21 and 22 deal with the problem you describe. Sounds like older
machines do not have the front and back supports for alignment and the drum
can be put in at an improper angle. Randy shows how to fix it. Hopefully
this will get you back to quiet roasting again.
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4) From: Tara Kollas
Wow - I'm glad you posted this - I've had the same problems and hadn't
really gotten around to a fix yet.  I assumed something was bent that I
needed to take a look at.
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5) From: Cameron Forde
I've had this problem, too.  It turned out that the heating element
was rubbing against the drum near the window.  I simply reached in
when it was cold and bent it back (it is a matter of a millimeter or
two).  It is probably not the best thing to be bending the heating
element about, but then it is also not so good for the heating element
to rub against the drum.
Cameron
PS Just passed the 400th roast on my Hottop.
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6) From: John Fellowes
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My hottop does that too.  It's the drum rubbing against the front of the =
upper elemenet.  Check the front ofthe drum for rub marks.  I take off =
the cover, remove the drum while it is still hot (gloves) and put a =
c-clamp on the uppper element and tighten onto the outside skin of the =
roaster until it cools. This stops the noise for awhile but we =
definitely need a better fix but I'm still not sure if it's the drum or =
the element.
John Fellowes

7) From: Elliott H. O'Reilly
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I was getting strange grinding noises from my Hottop and thought that
something fatal might be happening to the internal gearing.  On close
inspection I discovered that the heating element had warped slightly towards
the drum.  When it was cold the heating element would rub against the drum
causing a nasty noise that would slowly go away as the unit heated up.  I
was able to carefully bend the element back away from the drum and the noise
disappeared.
Elliott O'Reilly

8) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_Th=F8gersen?=
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Hi Elliot and others,
Thanks for all the usefull replies from many fellow HT owners!
It turned out to be the same happening on my machine, some force =
administered on the top part off the heating element solved the problem.
Very nice cheap simpel and efficient! I really like repairs that I can =
do as a blind person! and I really like this version of the Hottop where =
the only thing I cannot see are the rather useless lights on the =
display. Apart from the price for the new version all the display =
readouts really makes me hope that there will still be something as =
simple to operate as the old Hottop when I will have to buy a new =
roaster hopefully many many years from now!
Claus
eagerly awaiting the mail telling me that my international order has =
been shipped from SM, but hopefully it will happen on monday! and I am =
not even thinking about my dream of the international cousin to Harvy.

9) From: Brian Kamnetz
Claus,
I'm curious; do you mind saying how many pounds you order at one time?
Thanks,
Brian
On 4/1/07, Claus Thøgersen  wrote:
Claus
eagerly awaiting the mail telling me that my international order has been
shipped from SM, but hopefully it will happen on monday! and I am not even
thinking about my dream of the international cousin to Harvy.

10) From: Brian Kamnetz
Claus,
That is a good-sized batch of greens. And what a great thing to have a Thor
tamper! My sister gave me one for Christmas (well, she gave me the money,
and when I feel I have my "lifetime" espresso machine I will actually buy
one).
Tom has some great travel thermos bottles. I look at them occassionally
until I am too confused over which one I REALLY want and stop for a while.
Which bottle did you decide on?
Brian
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11) From: Floyd Lozano
at 44 lbs you could get a double sampler!  And a bunch of other stuff.
-F
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12) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_Th=F8gersen?=
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Hi,
No not at all. I order the cheap airfair I cannot remember the name. But =
on this one there is a standard box that you can fill, and the closer =
you get to the magic number of pounds, the cheaper or should we say less =
expensive you get the coffee. 44 Pounds is the magic number, so when I =
order only greens I try to land on 44 pounds. This time I ordered a =
small travel thermos and a nice Thor Tamper! so I land on I think 38 or =
39 pounds this time.
Claus

13) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_Th=F8gersen?=
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Hi,
Yes 44 pounds is ok, but it means that many of the coffees everybody in =
the US just can buy a few ounds of to try just never ends up in my =
stash!
I had the same problem with the vacuum bottles, but a few of them iare =
either out of sstok or discontinued, and if Tom uses this one it is =
surely also fine for me!!http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.travelmugs-bottles.shtmlTuff Slim TS Vacuum Bottle 
Elegant & 
functional design
; slim body uses minimal space for portability and convenience; it is =
designed to fit in briefcases and handbags; ideal for air travel =
(although mine makes
the inspectors look a little closer at their monitor!); 
automatic push button stopper
; extra wide mouth; cap doubles as cup; nonstick Teflon interior lining; =
durable stainless steel construction. Smaller capacity buy hey...focus =
on quality
not quantity! You can brew directly into it using a 
thermos filtercone
, although it's narrower base might be a bit tippy.
Capacity: 
0. 47liters = about 16 oz.  
Color: 
Stainless Steel  
Heat Retention: 
172.4°F @ 6 hrs. / 125.6°F @ 24 hrs.  
$29
add to cart  
Shipping= 2 lbs 
I would not wait for the final Espresso machine before buying a nice =
tamper, with all the development that is going on with quality espresso =
machines I think only a very  few persons if any can keep up! My current =
thought on espresso machines is to go with an hx machine I have a =
Simo´nelli Oscar a really nice and in Europe one of the most afordable =
hx machines.
Claus
ddevelopment

14) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_Th=F8gersen?=
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Hi,
But I do not want samplers I want to decide based on Toms reviews, and =
if you only buy every 6 to 9 months there are lots of coffees that have =
been on the list and are gone! But now that Nestle has taken over SM I =
hope for a local outled here in Århus grin!
Claus

15) From: Brian Kamnetz
Claus,
That one caught my eye too. I wonder about the teflon coating, but Tom is
knowledgeable and cautious, and it seems to have passed the Tom test.
The other one I have my eye on is this one:
*Nissan Leak-Proof BackPack Bottle *, Model JMW-500
This is *really* neat - a totally leak-proof bottle that is slim enough for
a briefcase or backpack, and doubles as a cup. This bottle is actually more
comfortable to drink out of that a lot of commuter mugs! And not many peopl=
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really like to use the lid of their thermos as a cup, so instead you have
spring-loaded push-button top that can be opened with one hand. It fits mos=
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auto cup-holders. This is the 16 ounce larger model of the two sizes that
Nissan makes ... we thought the 11 ounce smaller one (JMW-350) is too small
to be practical. The 16 ounce (.5 L) size is available in Silver SS color.
This model has great heat
retention:
209 f water was 194 after one hour, 180 after 2 hours, and 168 after 3
hours.
I like the way that you can sip right out of the top of this one. It seems
like it was out of stock for a while, but I don't see that notice any more.
Enjoy your coffee and your thermos!
Brian
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16) From: Tara Kollas
I did the same thing a few days ago and the grinding noise stopped.
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