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1) From: Sandy Andina
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On Apr 6, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Lynne Biziewski wrote:
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Unfortunately, this is a side effect of outsourcing to foreign  
countries, especially those eager to cut corners in order to be the  
low bidders.  Menu Foods could have gotten domestic wheat gluten, but  
they chose their bottom line instead and imported it from China  
because it was cheaper. China allows fertilizers, pesticides, and  
herbicides that the US, Canada, Australia, Japan and the EU don't-- 
one of these was the melamine that was in the soil in which the wheat  
from which the gluten extracted was grown.   (Their produce is  
sometimes fertilized with "nightsoil," which is the euphemism for  
processed human waste).  Fortunately, my furbabies (and every cat  
I've ever had) turn their noses up at the "cuts-in-gravy," chunk, or  
shredded wet food. They like their tablespoon a day of cat crack--er,  
plain ground Friskies--and nibble their kibble the rest of the day.   
I checked all the cat food in the house (and went to Nutro's site for  
the ingredient list for their Natural Choice Adult Indoor Cat  
kibble)--none of it has wheat gluten. But I tossed out all the Pounce  
nuggets without even reading the labels, because one flavor had the  
offending stuff. (My current kitties don't like any "treats" other  
than catnip or the occasional teaspoon of cream anyway).
Now, the FDA assures us that none of the tainted gluten made its way  
into food destined for humans.  I'm not so sure.  One of my  
weaknesses is a jones for shrimp chips:  flash-deep-fried slices of  
dried extruded paste made from ground-up shrimp, rice, and sometimes  
wheat.....in China.  How can we be sure that anything made with  
Chinese-grown agricultural products is safe anymore?  I actually  
noticed one particular brand had a peculiar non-food off-taste and  
odor when I fried it up--I couldn't quite put my finger on it at the  
time and even tried a different kind of oil--same result. So I threw  
them away.  Now it hits me: that smell and taste were reminiscent of  
vinyl or polyethylene, like I was chewing on a shower curtain.  
Plastic.  Which is what melamine is used to manufacture ("Melmac"-- 
the stuff that dishes are made of, not ALF's home planet), though  
Melmac is a hard plastic.  Still, I have thrown away everything in my  
cupboards made in China, and will not buy any more foods made there.   
(Not even the brands of shrimp chips containing no wheat and which  
smell and taste just fine--you never know).  It pains me to do that,  
because I am by no means a "circle-the-wagons" anti-globalist, and am  
a believer in international friendship and cooperation (not to  
mention a lover of even the most exotic Chinese foods). But when it  
comes down to matters of health and safety.....
The only Chinese cuisine I will eat for the foreseeable future is  
that made with entirely domestic, Canadian, Australian or western/ 
central European food products. (Come to think of it, Japan is  
fastidious about safety and cleanliness, so I'll eat stuff made in  
Japan as long as it doesn't contain Chinese ingredients).
Are tea bushes grown in soil to which fertilizer is added?
Sandy Andina
www.sandyandina.com
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
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On Apr 6, 2007, at =
10:56 PM, Lynne Biziewski wrote:
Laura - = Be sure to check to make sure the so-called 'holistic' food = doesn't get their food supply from the same source. The list keeps = changing, too, by the way - difficult for anyone outside of the big = companies to make promises.
Unfortunately, this is a = side effect of outsourcing to foreign countries, especially those eager = to cut corners in order to be the low bidders.  Menu Foods could have = gotten domestic wheat gluten, but they chose their bottom line instead = and imported it from China because it was cheaper. China allows = fertilizers, pesticides, and herbicides that the US, Canada, Australia, = Japan and the EU don't--one of these was the melamine that was in the = soil in which the wheat from which the gluten extracted was grown.  =  (Their produce is sometimes fertilized with "nightsoil," which is the = euphemism for processed human waste).  Fortunately, my furbabies (and = every cat I've ever had) turn their noses up at the "cuts-in-gravy," = chunk, or shredded wet food. They like their tablespoon a day of cat = crack--er, plain ground Friskies--and nibble their kibble the rest of = the day.  I checked all the cat food in the house (and went to Nutro's = site for the ingredient list for their Natural Choice Adult Indoor Cat = kibble)--none of it has wheat gluten. But I tossed out all the Pounce = nuggets without even reading the labels, because one flavor had the = offending stuff. (My current kitties don't like any "treats" other than = catnip or the occasional teaspoon of cream anyway).
Now, the FDA assures us = that none of the tainted gluten made its way into food destined for = humans.  I'm not so sure.  One of my weaknesses is a jones for = shrimp chips:  flash-deep-fried slices of dried extruded paste made = from ground-up shrimp, rice, and sometimes wheat.....in China.  How = can we be sure that anything made with Chinese-grown agricultural = products is safe anymore?  I actually noticed one particular brand had = a peculiar non-food off-taste and odor when I fried it up--I couldn't = quite put my finger on it at the time and even tried a different kind of = oil--same result. So I threw them away.  Now it hits me: that smell = and taste were reminiscent of vinyl or polyethylene, like I was chewing = on a shower curtain. Plastic.  Which is what melamine is used to = manufacture ("Melmac"--the stuff that dishes are made of, not ALF's home = planet), though Melmac is a hard plastic.  Still, I have thrown away = everything in my cupboards made in China, and will not buy any more = foods made there.  (Not even the brands of shrimp chips containing no = wheat and which smell and taste just fine--you never know).  It pains = me to do that, because I am by no means a "circle-the-wagons" = anti-globalist, and am a believer in international friendship and = cooperation (not to mention a lover of even the most exotic Chinese = foods). But when it comes down to matters of health and = safety.....
The= only Chinese cuisine I will eat for the foreseeable future is that made = with entirely domestic, Canadian, Australian or western/central European = food products. (Come to think of it, Japan is fastidious about safety = and cleanliness, so I'll eat stuff made in Japan as long as it doesn't = contain Chinese ingredients). 
Are tea bushes grown in = soil to which fertilizer is added? Sandy = Andinawww.sandyandina.comwww.myspace.com/sandyandina=

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2) From: Lynne Biziewski
Wow - your perception is right on the money.
Many yrs ago, I had a friend fr. Japan - she would not eat products from
China. Today, it's even worse...
The thing I've been concerned about is just what you wrote - how CAN we be
sure that our human food supply IS safe?
Your comments about the plastic taste also is familiar, although right now I
can't remember what exactly it was that I had that had that same taste...
Lynne
On 4/7/07, Sandy Andina  wrote:
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When the power of love is greater than the love of power, the world will
then have peace.

3) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Sandy Andina wrote:
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If you want to hear the bad rumours, you can.
Go to Google Groups, and in the group rec.food.drink.tea is a thread, 
started Jan 22 with the subject "Cancer causing teas".
I cannot tell from that thread which Chinese teas might be safe.
Dave S.


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