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Topic: Different lots, and pre-roasted smell... (5 msgs / 121 lines)
1) From: Jason
Here is where I  am going to show how little I know.  So when i
ordered my roaster, I got a sample pack of Panama Boquete - Maunier
Estate, which I turned around the next day after I had it, and ordered
5 lbs of it.  I love this coffee.  Well as fate would have it, SM ran
out when I was getting ready to order another 5lb.
So I found another source for it.  I haven't roasted any of it yet as
it arrived last night, however, the dry smell of the beans, the batch
from SM is extreamly aromatic, and the other has almost no smell at
all.  I have a feeling they aren't going to be what I was hoping for
when I roast them up.  The beans look the same...  but smell is vastly
different, or almost non-existant, in the second batch.  :(

2) From: miKe mcKoffee
Your tale is not uncommon. A few years ago got some fantastic Sumatra Gayo
Mountain from Tom, went to order some more and he was out. So ordered 5#
Gayo from another online greens source I hadn't tried before. Never repeated
that mistake again.
I agree the Panama Maunier great again this year, learned to love it from
previous year's offerings by Tom. Always one of my favorite Panamas.
Consequently future years always order a qty as soon as/if he offers it
again, I don't bother with "test" order. Next year if Tom offers it you'll
know to immediately place your order! (And if Tom offers it that means it's
good again.) Doesn't help now, but he may get more, who knows. Also look to
other Panama offerings from Tom with similar/same varietals, not all Panamas
are even close to the same!
Pacific Northwest Gathering Vhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGV.htmKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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3) From: Jason
I wanted to branch out and try a few good/bad/indifferent coffee's
from Panama since I enjoyed that one so much.  I got my hands on some
La Berlinia (sp?) Estate also by Casa Ruiz, and while very happy with
it, it just doesn't climb to the peak of the Maunier.  I was just
curious if this was a norm and what kind of conditions cause this,
would it be bad storage? or just luck of the draw?

4) From: miKe mcKoffee
Luck of the draw? Sort of but not really IMO. More like luck of having
someone like Tom who cups every lot before and after buying and won't carry
a green unless it meets his high standards. Remember Tom rejects far far far
more coffees than he ever decides to offer. 
What can cause seemingly same/similar greens to be vastly different? A
multitude of possibilites from bloom to offered green, bad storage
conditions would be one of them.
Pacific Northwest Gathering Vhttp://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGV.htmKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
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5) From: Justin Marquez
Jason - Use the "sampler experiences" to learn which origin coffees you
enjoy - to "calibrate" *your* tastebuds.
Read Tom's notes on the ones you try and see if you can determine for
yourself  which  of his descriptions you can relate to in your own
roast/brew experiences.  He will tell you how THIS coffee is typical of that
origin area, or how it is NOT, and what other origins it will remind him of,
etc.
THEN... when a new coffee shows up in the available coffee list, you can
usually look at where it is from and read Tom's specific cupping comments
and decide if you want to buy it or not.
About the variability of quality situation.  Beans from the same trees but a
different picking, processing, storing and shipment may be wildly different
in quality.  The thing to remember is:
             If Sweet Maria's has it for sale, it WILL be high quality, good
coffee.
That is not to say that you will enjoy all of the coffees that they offer -
one origin or specific quirk of a lot may not suit your tastebuds whereas
others may rave about it.   (That's why we need the sampler packs!)
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 4/19/07, Jason  wrote:
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