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Topic: Question on one of Les's RK drum profilles (19 msgs / 452 lines)
1) From: DeCambre.Peter
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2) From: Ross
Les,
I'm going to go outside in 20 minutes to try your hot Cinnamon profile in 
the RK drum.  I'm planning  to let it go to a City roast - any further words 
of wisdom?  I have the Charbroil/Brinkman and am using the stock thermometer 
which is about an inch above the drum but seems fairly accurate. Going now 
to check the stash for a good bean for this roast.
Back in 10,
Ross

3) From: Ross
OK, I found a 5 lb burlap bag, half full of Misty Valley, I will go with one 
lb and hope I don't screw it up.  Going out to preheat, will be back to see 
if anyone has any words of wisdom before I take the plunge.
Ross

4) From: Ross
OK, I have hooked up the grill and started the preheat, carefully weighed 
one lb of Misty Valley green.  Cut some lime and put it in my very cold 
bottle of Corona, (yes, Corona season is open in Tucson).  I am going out 
there cold to do this without any help from you guys.
Later,
Ross

5) From: Eddie Dove
Ross,
If you already have the Corona, what more can we do except maybe to
get you another?
Use the force ...
I have not yet tried Les' cinnamon roast profile, but I cannot wait
for your results.  I have only one pound of the Misty Valley left and
plan on doing Les' cinnamon roast.  I just need to get a little more
adept with my RK Drum setup.
Lots of coffee to roast today ... I am heading outside myself.  I
would have started already, but my neighbor needed his lawn mower
fixed ... there is always enough time to help out a neighbor!
Eddie
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6) From: miKe mcKoffee
Sorry no "immediate" help with RK & Misty. And I don't RK Drum roast so my
specific techniques may not apply without someone having previous good
knowledge of both my method and your method.
OTH a quick seach "RK Misty" in the archives did find specific RK Drum
roasting discussions and ideas/profiles specifically pertaining to Idido
Misty Valley including from Les. Then again may have already been there and
had further questions on said discussions...
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7) From: Ross
Eddie,
Wow, that was fast.  Lessons learned:
My three burner Charmglow/Brinkman is a power house, I preheated to 590 and 
then opened and inserted the cool drum with 1lb green and closed the lid, 
the temp was still about 540 (I must be faster than Les ) so instead of a 
ramp to 540 I just reduced heat to hold 540 for 3 min/grassy smell (I had a 
hard time telling grassy smell from the Corona aroma, from anything else) so 
I just went with 3 minutes.  I then reduced heat to drop toward 460, that 
was hard, I kept turning the grill down and down but the temp didn't drop 
very fast, I was at about 470 when I heard a crack so I turned the grill off 
and watched the temp it still did not drop very fast 1st started at about 
7:45 elapsed it was a very slow start so I didn't start timing until it 
picked up pace and then I let it go about 45 seconds removed and super 
cooled with my 5 horsepower cooler.
Result:
Nice Cinnamon color, but did I get it roasted to the core?
I found the biggest bean I could and tasted it, not sour ---Yea!
The beans are soo good I am using them for bar snacks and have eaten about 
1/4 of them already.
Time for another Corona.
Cheers,
Ross

8) From: Ross
Mike,
Thanks for the link.  Do you live in HII?
Ross

9) From: miKe mcKoffee
Let's see drinking Corona and munched through about a 1/4# of fresh roast
IMV, in some cirlces that might be called a type of "speedball":-)
Negative, live in Pacific Northwest. Been to Hawaii a few times on business
and vacations. Over a decade fan of good Estate fresh roast Konas though.
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found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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10) From: Ross
Mike, Les, Eddie and others,
First of all, thank you Les for sharing that Hot profile.  I just packed 2 
quart jars and had enough left over to grind and cup.  I ground it at about 
35 on the Rocky, put the swissgold in my cup and let it sit about 30 
seconds, a very nice cup of coffee, makes a good speedball too!   I am going 
to try another pound in a few minutes with a faster reduction of the burners 
from 520 to 460 hopefully closer to Les's marks, shooting for a 8 to 9 
minute 1st.
This coffee roasting is a great sport for those of us with bad knees etc.
Regards,
Ross

11) From: Les
Congrats on an excellent roast.  It is nice to have a lot of power to
roast.  The key is controling it.  Looking forward to hearing about your
brew results.
Les
On 4/29/07, Ross  wrote:
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12) From: Eddie Dove
You are quite right, Les,  I have a lot of power with this grill and
am really trying to learn to control it.  For example, it is just
preheated right now, all burners on low and the thermocouple reads 585
...  I opened and closed the lid to cool it a little.
Eddie
On 4/29/07, Les  wrote:
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13) From: miKe mcKoffee
Sounds like for non-cold weather roasting you would have better control
using two of three burners since all three on low too hot. Just because you
have the power doesn't necessarily mean it's always best or needed to use
it!
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URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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14) From: Ross
Eddie,
Sounds like you have a similar grill, can there be such a thing as too much 
power?  The good news is we have the thermometer.  I decided to roast some 
Java Government Estate for my second roast.  I will wait and let my wife 
taste the Misty Valley in a few days.  I will have to grind some and take it 
with me on my trip, I need to find a small travel grinder.  The Java roast 
went OK but again the grill wanted to run hot and when adjusting the burners 
in the low range they are very sensitive.  I took the Java to 1st in 8 
minutes using another version/attempt at Les's Hot start profile,  (the Java 
1st crack was weak compared to Misty Valley-bean difference I'm thinking) I 
reduced the heat and let it go 1+30 after 1st then pulled it prior to 2nd. 
I got a few cracks on the dump so it may have hit 2nd just as I dumped it. 
Bean taste test did not show any flaws, we will see how it tastes in a few 
days.  My only problem with the drum is that just when I get in the groove I 
have to quit because I have enough coffee roasted already, I guess I need to 
start selling coffee.  Well it's time for a dip in the pool and another 
Corona.
Haste la Vista,
Ross

15) From: mirrera
From: miKe mcKoffee
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Mike,
I've seen you use the "OTH" acronym several times, and it's got me stumped.  As far as I know, the only 'Netspeak translation for that is "Off The Hook".  The context isn't doing it for me, either -- can you translate?
-AdkMike

16) From: miKe mcKoffee
You know what, I've been screwing up and dropping a letter, should have
been/be OTOH! (on the other hand) Sorry about that.
miKe
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17) From: Ross
Dave,
I did two roasts today,  one pound of greens each.  Only time will tell if 
they are good.  My objective was a City roast starting with Les's Hot start 
Cinnamon profile as detailed on the RK drum web site.  I hit 1st crack a 
little too fast but I reduced heat and stretched it a little longer to 
compensate so I think it will be OK.  My grill is a Home Depot 199.00 
Charmglow converted to natural gas, I drilled out the orifice's with a #49 
drill so it may be a little different from a stock LP grill.  Also I'm 
currently using only the stock temp gage mounted in the grill hood it seems 
to be adequate but temps are not going to equate to those that are closer to 
the drum.  Based only on the timing of 1st and 2nd crack I think I can work 
with that gage,  I just need more practice, my first roasts were too dark I 
was well into 2nd by the time I got the beans dumped, I think today's roasts 
will be much better.  It is so nice to be able to adjust temps during the 
roast vs. going with a program and having to live with it even when it is 
not doing what you want.
Ross

18) From: Eddie Dove
This grill has 4 burners, hence me learning what to do with the two
outside burners to control things.  The temperature reading is via a
thermocouple right down at the same proximity that the beans will be
in the bottom of the drum; the stock thermometer in the lid usually
shows about 100F cooler ... I think.
One can never have too much power, but one does have to know how to
handle / control it, or so I warned a certain 15 year old that was
given a Corvette (not by me!).  I reminded him of my admonition as the
wad that used to be a Corvette was being extricated from forcible
entry into self-storage buildings; it stopped in the fourth one.
I have learned that sometimes I just need to turn them all low and
other times I need to shut off the two end burners.  I will continue
to learn and get better.
I think I got a really good roast of the Kona Purple Mountain.
Eddie
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19) From: Peter Zulkowski
Ross,
It is not hot yet in Tucson, but here in Arizonia the sun does help with 
roasting, especially large surface BBQ grills :)
Glad you had a successful roast. Wait until summertime and you will need 
hardly any gas to run your grill ;) :)
Please remember that in Oatman on July 4 they have an annual contest to 
fry eggs on the sidewalk.
PeterZ
Thinking of roasting coffee on the sidewalk, here in LHC
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