I'm going to order tomorrow (Monday) from Sweet Marias and can't decide between models so I'm polling the learned list. What are the pros and cons, other than the extra money, for purchasing the glass carafe versus thermal carafe models. I look forward to your wisdom! Randy in FLorida
I have the TV with glass carafe and, honestly, feel that the carafe is cheap. It's a bit thin-walled and the handle is really flimsy. I'm remodeling my kitchen ... still ... and continue to wash dishes upstairs in the bathtub. i haven't dropped it yet, but suspect that I will sometime and have to replace it. that said, i don't have a need for my coffee to sit in a thermal container; so, it works for me. i typically will make a couple cups and leave the remainder out to cool to room temperature. nevertheless, i'm keeping my eyes peeled for a backup / replacement in garage sales. On 5/6/07, Florida Randy wrote: <Snip> John Nanavati, DHI, CIT Plainfield, New Jersey
I have the thermal carafe. Here's my list: Pros: keeps coffee warm for several hours, won't break into a hundred pieces. Cons: hard to clean interior (can't get hand in and bottle brushes don't work well - simply use soap and shake), no pressure valve so the metallic exterior cracks from the contained pressure (it doesn't break or seem to affect the carafe, just looks bad), and it doesn't pour cleanly (splatter and just kind of wierd). -- Brent My coffee is better than it tastes On 5/6/07, Florida Randy wrote: <Snip>
"...the pros and cons, other than the extra money, for purchasing the glass carafe versus thermal carafe models." I have an inspection gig at an Avaya lab in the morning, and I'll brew a couple of glass carafes into my 3L glass thermal airpot before I go. The glass carafe is just my catch basin if I'm brewing a lot. The airpot is handy for dispensing and will keep the (Lot 30) hot all day tomorrow. The common flower painted airpots are available for cheap at the thrift stores, and have a 1.9L glass vacuum Thermos. I won't be breaking either the TV carafe or the 3L airpot. Not thrift store items. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! -- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
Durability of the stainless steel. ----- Original Message ---- From: Florida Randy To: List Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2007 10:45:46 PM Subject: +Technivorm - Pros & Cons of Glass vs Thermal Carafe I'm going to order tomorrow (Monday) from Sweet Marias and can't decide between models so I'm polling the learned list. What are the pros and cons, other than the extra money, for purchasing the glass carafe versus thermal carafe models. I look forward to your wisdom! Randy in FLorida8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
This is perhaps a rather purist question, or issue. I find holding coffee at a temperature injures the flavor. I never reheat coffee and, unless there is no other choice, will not place it in a container designed to retain the heat as it never tastes fresh after that. I would choose the glass carafe. Dan
Dan, You are so right about the coffee 'cooking' itself. I use a thermos, but the coffee is never the same after a half hour or so. I still think it's better than the standard coffeemaker warmer, and probably better than reheating, but drinking it immediately gets me what I like about coffee. ********************* Ed Needham "to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com(include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters) *********************
"I would choose the glass carafe." So do I. I take my 3L twin walled glass carafe full of my favorite nectar when I have a gig. The secret is that the twin walls are held apart by a vacuum that fills the space completely. Since a vacuum is >nothing<, the only path for heat to leave is by radiation, and that is even minimized with mirroring. The mirrored surfaces are only touched by vacuum, nothing, so the mirroring lasts a long time, as did the Harar Lot 30 that was steaming hot and astounding the coffee drinkers all day long. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! Carry my tactical Clover?
hey Ray, what carafe do you have? it sounds interesting. On 5/12/07, raymanowen wrote: <Snip> John Nanavati, DHI, CIT Plainfield, New Jersey
I can brew two large brews (1.5L ea.) and pour the coffee into my preheated Peacock 3L airpot that has a glass thermos liner in it. About $50 at a restaurant supply house. - Pardon the pause- this xyz??@!! computer power supply has been misbehaving. Methinks, "How tough can it be to replace a miserable power supply?" At least, it's not as bad as replacing and tuning traveling wave tubes. Holy S-tarbucks! What a Rat's Nest the wiring was. It still is. I was sure it wouldn't work and I'd need to troubleshoot it to get it running again. I was ready for it Not to work, and kind of looking forward to brewing a fresh batch of Lot 30 so I'd be ready to relax and hurl expletives (ex-military). But No. It works, and this Alte didn't get here by fixing stuff that works. I use two different modes for brewing drip coffee with the TV: a.) - Normal, full carafe. Preheat Gold mesh filter/cone basket in boiling water, grind 45g coffee into mesh filter. Close valve, add 4oz boiling H2O. Turn on machine after a minute, open valve 1/2 when basket starts to fill and allow fairly normal completion. Carafe will overfill, so valve Off, dump carafe into airpot, resume brewing. Only a few more oz. b.) - 16oz Stein way. As above, but use 15 - 30g coffee beans, formula is: Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! Disclaimer: This may, or may not work properly.
b.) continued. After I think that's the formula- try it. I disremember... Continue filling closed basket from boiling teapot.Stir down bloom and continue dribbling boiling water over bloom. This keeps it knocked down. Open valve and drain basket into stein. Consume contents of stein at leisure. (Today has been Opa's Day- 64) Will combine it with Nana- Celtic Critic's day tomorrow. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! The term under the radical is what they serve for Fourbucks (Lousy Coffee)
Happy Birthday Ray...either 1 day late or 364 days early! Hope it was a good one. wes ----- Original Message ---- From: "raymanowen" To: homeroast Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:19:14 AM Subject: Re: +Technivorm - Pros & Cons of Glass vs Thermal Carafe b.) continued. After I think that's the formula- try it. I disremember... Continue filling closed basket from boiling teapot.Stir down bloom and continue dribbling boiling water over bloom. This keeps it knocked down. Open valve and drain basket into stein. Consume contents of stein at leisure. (Today has been Opa's Day- 64) Will combine it with Nana- Celtic Critic's day tomorrow. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! The term under the radical is what they serve for Fourbucks (Lousy Coffee)Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Florida Randy wrote: <Snip> I agree about not holding coffee, and got the 1.25L thermal carafe for just this reason: no heat added while brewing. But if you *are* going to hold it, far better in a thermal than a burner. However, I *hate* pouring from it. In retrospect, I would have considered the glass. The smaller thermal which still has the real pour spout would have been unacceptable since my partner and I drink the whole 1.25L every morning. I love everything else about this machine, but hate the "redesigned" 1.25L carafe.
Keeping it at a temperature does affect it's flavor a bit... but thats the price you pay for not drinking your coffee as it cools, right after you poured it really.. When i go fishing, its nice to open the thermos several hours later and have coffee hot enough to almost burn you still... and the flavor doesn't suffer that greatly, it maintains it's civility way better than a pot stewing on a hot plate for the same amount of time. I like the nissan thermos, it keeps it good and hot and is very durable... I don't want to say unbreakable because of course someone intent on can break it, but if you drop the thing down the pier... say.... for example.... it bounces but is perfectly intact.... you drop a glass thermos off the table and it's toast.. Aaron