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Topic: Technivorm - Pros & Cons of Glass vs Thermal Carafe (14 msgs / 273 lines)
1) From: Florida Randy
I'm going to order tomorrow (Monday) from Sweet Marias and can't decide
between models so I'm polling the learned list.  What are the pros and
cons, other than the extra money, for purchasing the glass carafe versus
thermal carafe models.  I look forward to your wisdom!
Randy in FLorida

2) From: john nanavati
I have the TV with glass carafe and, honestly, feel that the carafe is
cheap. It's a bit thin-walled and the handle is really flimsy. I'm
remodeling my kitchen ... still ... and continue to wash dishes upstairs in
the bathtub. i haven't dropped it yet, but suspect that I will sometime and
have to replace it.
that said, i don't have a need for my coffee to sit in a thermal container;
so, it works for me. i typically will make a couple cups and leave the
remainder out to cool to room temperature. nevertheless, i'm keeping my eyes
peeled for a backup / replacement in garage sales.
On 5/6/07, Florida Randy  wrote:
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John Nanavati, DHI, CIT
Plainfield, New Jersey

3) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
I have the thermal carafe.  Here's my list:
Pros:  keeps coffee warm for several hours, won't break into a hundred
pieces.
Cons:  hard to clean interior (can't get hand in and bottle brushes don't
work well - simply use soap and shake), no pressure valve so the metallic
exterior cracks from the contained pressure (it doesn't break or seem to
affect the carafe, just looks bad), and it doesn't pour cleanly (splatter
and just kind of wierd).
-- 
Brent
My coffee is better than it tastes
On 5/6/07, Florida Randy  wrote:
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4) From: raymanowen
"...the pros and cons, other than the extra money, for purchasing the glass
carafe versus thermal carafe models."
I have an inspection gig at an Avaya lab in the morning, and I'll brew a
couple of glass carafes into my 3L glass thermal airpot before I go. The
glass carafe is just my catch basin if I'm brewing a lot. The airpot is
handy for dispensing and will keep the (Lot 30) hot all day tomorrow.
The common flower painted airpots are available for cheap at the thrift
stores, and have a 1.9L glass vacuum Thermos. I won't be breaking either the
TV carafe or the 3L airpot. Not thrift store items.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

5) From: Wes Tyler
Durability of the stainless steel.
----- Original Message ----
From: Florida Randy 
To: List 
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2007 10:45:46 PM
Subject: +Technivorm - Pros & Cons of Glass vs Thermal Carafe
I'm going to order tomorrow (Monday) from Sweet Marias and can't decide
between models so I'm polling the learned list.  What are the pros and
cons, other than the extra money, for purchasing the glass carafe versus
thermal carafe models.  I look forward to your wisdom!
Randy in FLorida8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time 
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6) From: The Scarlet Wombat
This is perhaps a rather purist question, or issue.  I find holding coffee 
at a temperature injures the flavor.  I never reheat coffee and, unless 
there is no other choice, will not place it in a container designed to 
retain the heat as it never tastes fresh after that.  I would choose the 
glass carafe.
Dan

7) From: Ed Needham
Dan, You are so right about the coffee 'cooking' itself.  I use a thermos, 
but the coffee is never the same after a half hour or so.  I still think 
it's better than the standard coffeemaker warmer, and probably better than 
reheating, but drinking it immediately gets me what I like about coffee.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com(include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters)
*********************

8) From: raymanowen
"I would choose the glass carafe."
So do I. I take my 3L twin walled glass carafe full of my favorite nectar
when I have a gig. The secret is that the twin walls are held apart by a
vacuum that fills the space completely.
Since a vacuum is >nothing<, the only path for heat to leave is by
radiation, and that is even minimized with mirroring. The mirrored surfaces
are only touched by vacuum, nothing, so the mirroring lasts a long time, as
did the Harar Lot 30 that was steaming hot and astounding the coffee
drinkers all day long.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Carry my tactical Clover?

9) From: john nanavati
hey Ray,
what carafe do you have? it sounds interesting.
On 5/12/07, raymanowen  wrote:
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John Nanavati, DHI, CIT
Plainfield, New Jersey

10) From: raymanowen
I can brew two large brews (1.5L ea.) and pour the coffee into my preheated
Peacock 3L airpot that has a glass thermos liner in it. About $50 at a
restaurant supply house.
   - Pardon the pause- this xyz??@!! computer power supply has been
   misbehaving. Methinks, "How tough can it be to replace a miserable power
   supply?"
 At least, it's not as bad as replacing and tuning traveling wave tubes.
Holy S-tarbucks! What a Rat's Nest the wiring was. It still is. I was sure
it wouldn't work and I'd need to troubleshoot it to get it running again.
I was ready for it Not to work, and kind of looking forward to brewing a
fresh batch of Lot 30 so I'd be ready to relax and hurl expletives
(ex-military). But No. It works, and this Alte didn't get here by fixing
stuff that works.
I use two different modes for brewing drip coffee with the TV:
a.) - Normal, full carafe. Preheat Gold mesh filter/cone basket in boiling
water, grind 45g coffee into mesh filter. Close valve, add 4oz boiling H2O.
Turn on machine after a minute, open valve 1/2 when basket starts to fill
and allow fairly normal completion.
Carafe will overfill, so valve Off, dump carafe into airpot, resume brewing.
Only a few more oz.
b.) - 16oz Stein way. As above, but use 15 - 30g coffee beans, formula is:
 Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Disclaimer: This may, or may not work properly.

11) From: raymanowen
b.) continued. After
I think that's the formula- try it. I disremember...
Continue filling closed basket from boiling teapot.Stir down bloom and
continue dribbling boiling water over bloom. This keeps it knocked down.
Open valve and drain basket into stein.
Consume contents of stein at leisure.
(Today has been Opa's Day- 64) Will combine it with Nana- Celtic Critic's
day tomorrow.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
The term under the radical is what they serve for Fourbucks (Lousy Coffee)

12) From: Wes Tyler
Happy Birthday Ray...either 1 day late or 364 days early! Hope it was a good one.
wes
----- Original Message ----
From: "raymanowen" 
To: homeroast
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:19:14 AM
Subject: Re: +Technivorm - Pros & Cons of Glass vs Thermal Carafe
b.) continued. After 
 
I think that's the formula- try it. I disremember...
Continue filling closed basket from boiling teapot.Stir down bloom and continue dribbling boiling water over bloom. This keeps it knocked down.
Open valve and drain basket into stein.
Consume contents of stein at leisure. 
(Today has been Opa's Day- 64) Will combine it with Nana- Celtic Critic's day tomorrow.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
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13) From: David Liguori
Florida Randy wrote:
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I agree about not holding coffee, and got the 1.25L thermal carafe for 
just this reason: no heat added while brewing.  But if you *are* going 
to hold it, far better in a thermal than a burner.  However, I *hate* 
pouring from it.  In retrospect, I would have considered the glass.  The 
smaller thermal which still has the real pour spout would have been 
unacceptable since my partner and I drink the whole 1.25L every morning.
I love everything else about this machine, but hate the "redesigned" 
1.25L carafe.

14) From: Aaron
Keeping it at a temperature does affect it's flavor a bit... but thats 
the price you pay for not drinking your coffee as it cools, right after 
you poured it  really..
When i go fishing, its nice to open the thermos several hours later and 
have coffee hot enough to almost burn you still... and the flavor 
doesn't suffer that greatly, it maintains it's civility way better than 
a pot stewing on a hot plate for the same amount of time.
I like the nissan thermos, it keeps it good and hot and is very 
durable... I don't want to say unbreakable because of course someone 
intent on can break it, but if you drop the thing down the pier... 
say.... for example.... it bounces but is perfectly intact....  you drop 
a glass thermos off the table and it's toast..
Aaron


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